Can you still transfer an upgrade from a basic line to a smartphone line?

[Eli_C]

Can you still transfer an upgrade from a basic line to a smart phone line and keep the basic line with no data plan (and of course use data for the smartphone)?

I know you can't upgrade the basic line to a smart line and drop the data anymore, but this question is not about keeping an UDP. Its about using an upgrade from a basic line to get a new smartphone on a smartphone line with limited data.

 

[VidJunky]

They won't let you get a smartphone without data. I didn't ask about a device bought from outside of their system, one that you paid full price for and just brought in, but any device bought with a subsidy must have a data plan, that I'm sure of.

 

[Eli_C]

They won't let you get a smartphone without data.

Not trying to.
Example
2 lines
1 smartphone line - under contract
1 basic line - upgrade available

can you transfer the upgrade from the basic line to the smartphone line without having to have a data plan on the basic line?

 

[VidJunky]

Oh yeah they'll let you upgrade to a smartphone from a basic. It's more money for them. They'll add data to the line under one of their plans, but you cannot get a smartphone without data. Sorry I misunderstood you.

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[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

Not trying to.
Example
2 lines
1 smartphone line - under contract
1 basic line - upgrade available

can you transfer the upgrade from the basic line to the smartphone line without having to have a data plan on the basic line?

Yes you can, but if your one if the lucky few that have unlimited data you will lose unlimited data by doing this. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

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[Mr. Toad]

I ordered a smartphone from a 3rd party retailer. The line I used was a dumbphone line. I discarded the sim, put it on my unlimited line. I am still not paying for data on the dumbphone line.

 

[phantomog]

I ordered a smartphone from a 3rd party retailer. The line I used was a dumbphone line. I discarded the sim, put it on my unlimited line. I am still not paying for data on the dumbphone line.

This is the first I have heard of this method. Was this after Aug 24th? (or whenever the new data plan requirement took place). So you ordered a smartphone on a dumbphone line, and never activated it on the dumbphone line, right? And immediately popped in your UPD sim?

This would be my preferred method if possible. Can you please elaborate with more details? Which retailer? Are you concerned at all with an ETF or fee/error since the phone was never activated on the line which used the upgrade? PM is fine. Thanks.

 

[Mr. Toad]

This is the first I have heard of this method. Was this after Aug 24th? (or whenever the new data plan requirement took place). So you ordered a smartphone on a dumbphone line, and never activated it on the dumbphone line, right? And immediately popped in your UPD sim?

This would be my preferred method if possible. Can you please elaborate with more details? Which retailer? Are you concerned at all with an ETF or fee/error since the phone was never activated on the line which used the upgrade? PM is fine. Thanks.

It was a new iPhone 6. It was ordered on 9/16/14. The line is still showing the test device with no data. The data is not being billed.

As far as I know apple does not charge a second ETF like Amazon does, so I am not worried about that. If Verizon catches on and charges me data, I will cancel the line and pay the etf.

Also this is my wife's line. I will be getting the Note 4.

 

[phantomog]

It was a new iPhone 6. It was ordered on 9/16/14. The line is still showing the test device with no data. The data is not being billed.

As far as I know apple does not charge a second ETF like Amazon does, so I am not worried about that. If Verizon catches on and charges me data, I will cancel the line and pay the etf.

Also this is my wife's line. I will be getting the Note 4.

Ahh, thanks. Since I want the Note 4 as well I guess that is not an option. I have an upgrade available on my UDP line and one on my basic phone line. The method you mentioned seemed the absolute safest way of getting the phone without having to worry at all about losing unlimited.

Guess I'll just pre-order from Amazon and hope and pray the sim swap method is still working. I know its been well documented but it still makes me uneasy.

 

[Mr. Toad]

You can do what I did on best buy. They don't charge a second ETF like Amazon.

 

[ginger_ale]

I ordered a smartphone from a 3rd party retailer. The line I used was a dumbphone line. I discarded the sim, put it on my unlimited line. I am still not paying for data on the dumbphone line.

I'm thinking of transferring my UDP line upgrade to one of my basic line and doing the same method since I don't want to risk losing UDP. I'm assuming it should work. Did u get your ip6 from bb or Apple? My preference is bb as I have gift cards but they don't have the 64gb in stock for shipping yet. Also, what line was extended to 2yrs, the basic line or the line u put the ip6 on? What about pending activation on the basic line, did it drop off after a couple wks? Tnx..

 

[Mr. Toad]

I'm thinking of transferring my UDP line upgrade to one of my basic line and doing the same method since I don't want to risk losing UDP. I'm assuming it should work. Did u get your ip6 from bb or Apple? My preference is bb as I have gift cards but they don't have the 64gb in stock for shipping yet. Also, what line was extended to 2yrs, the basic line or the line u put the ip6 on? What about pending activation on the basic line, did it drop off after a couple wks? Tnx..

I upgraded through apple.

The line the upgrade comes from is extended.

The pending activation has dropped off. I did suspend the line with billing.

Your method may require the data, so you will have to destroy the sim that comes with the phone. It should never get activated on that dumb line.

 

[ginger_ale]

I upgraded through apple.

The line the upgrade comes from is extended.

The pending activation has dropped off. I did suspend the line with billing.

Your method may require the data, so you will have to destroy the sim that comes with the phone. It should never get activated on that dumb line.

Did yours drop off the next billing cycle or after a few days? Also, why did u have to suspend the line? Was it while the line had the pending activation? I just want to make sure I get the timing right since my billing cycle is coming up. Thanks again.

 

[Mr. Toad]

Did yours drop off the next billing cycle or after a few days? Also, why did u have to suspend the line? Was it while the line had the pending activation? I just want to make sure I get the timing right since my billing cycle is coming up. Thanks again.

I just use the line for upgrades. I suspended so no changes would accidentally be made. It probably was not necessary.

I think the activation dropped when I suspended the line.

 

[trey992]

It was a new iPhone 6. It was ordered on 9/16/14. The line is still showing the test device with no data. The data is not being billed.

As far as I know apple does not charge a second ETF like Amazon does, so I am not worried about that. If Verizon catches on and charges me data, I will cancel the line and pay the etf.

Also this is my wife's line. I will be getting the Note 4.

Mr. Toad, I read the info you posted and it was very helpful. I was wondering if you'd have any insight on my current situation. So, my family is on a 15GB More Everything Plan. We have 5 lines, only 1 of which is a 'basic' phone.

This basic phone had an upgrade available on the account, so I just used it to purchase a 6+. We were only paying $20/month for this basic phone monthly previously. However, now when I just purchased the 6+ on Apple.com, it says the monthly charge will go up to $40.

When I get the phone, before I turn it on I am going to insert my current Sim card (from an iPhone 6) into the 6+. I am hoping that when I do this, the basic phone will never activate as a smart phone and therefore the monthly charges won't budge whatsoever. I will obviously discard the sim card programmed for the basic phone's number. I want that line to remain just a basic phone for $20/month.

If I follow these steps, I will run into no issues of Verizon attempting to charge the $40/month for smartphone access? My concerns of this are basically because of the posts I've read regarding the August 24th policy change. I'm not sure how it applies in regards to my situation. Literally, I took a screenshot on Apple.com of it saying the monthly access bc it's a smartphone would be $40 monthly, however I'm wondering if this is negated when I never activate the basic phone's SIM in the 6+. Any ideas? And also, in regards to your situation, you still have not been billed whatsoever for the switch?

 

[dpham00]

Mr. Toad, I read the info you posted and it was very helpful. I was wondering if you'd have any insight on my current situation. So, my family is on a 15GB More Everything Plan. We have 5 lines, only 1 of which is a 'basic' phone.

This basic phone had an upgrade available on the account, so I just used it to purchase a 6+. We were only paying $20/month for this basic phone monthly previously. However, now when I just purchased the 6+ on Apple.com, it says the monthly charge will go up to $40.

When I get the phone, before I turn it on I am going to insert my current Sim card (from an iPhone 6) into the 6+. I am hoping that when I do this, the basic phone will never activate as a smart phone and therefore the monthly charges won't budge whatsoever. I will obviously discard the sim card programmed for the basic phone's number. I want that line to remain just a basic phone for $20/month.

If I follow these steps, I will run into no issues of Verizon attempting to charge the $40/month for smartphone access? My concerns of this are basically because of the posts I've read regarding the August 24th policy change. I'm not sure how it applies in regards to my situation. Literally, I took a screenshot on Apple.com of it saying the monthly access bc it's a smartphone would be $40 monthly, however I'm wondering if this is negated when I never activate the basic phone's SIM in the 6+. Any ideas? And also, in regards to your situation, you still have not been billed whatsoever for the switch?

I recently upgraded a friend's account for mep. The $40 line access charge dropped to $30 once the basic phone was back on the line . I don't think that you can keep the $20 Line access charge if you upgrade the line, but haven't tried myself

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4

 

[trey992]

Okay, thanks for the help. To understand, you did the sim swap when you recevied the device as well?

To clarify why the line is $20/month rather than $30, it's because Verizon gave us a promotion for the first year that'll keep it at $20 month. Then it'll go to $30.

 

[dpham00]

Okay, thanks for the help. To understand, you did the sim swap when you recevied the device as well?

To clarify why the line is $20/month rather than $30, it's because Verizon gave us a promotion for the first year that'll keep it at $20 month. Then it'll go to $30.

Ah ok. Thanks for the info on the discount.

I activated the new phone on the line through my Verizon. I am not sure how this would affect your discount though.

You can try to use the sim from another line, probably the safest Route to keep the discounted price

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4

 

[redsandvb]

I recently upgraded a friend's account for mep. The $40 line access charge dropped to $30 once the basic phone was back on the line . I don't think that you can keep the $20 Line access charge if you upgrade the line, but haven't tried myself

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4

In this particular case, is the $10 discount for basic phones no longer available when logging in to the account at VZW's website and going to 'change features', etc for the basic line?

I've been wondering if VZW takes that discount away if a smartphone is put on that line, then removed...

Thanks!

 

[trey992]

In this particular case, is the $10 discount for basic phones no longer available when logging in to the account at VZW's website and going to 'change features', etc for the basic line?

I've been wondering if VZW takes that discount away if a smartphone is put on that line, then removed...

Thanks!

That'd be good to know for me as well. I actually wasn't aware this $10 discount for basic phones was available as an option on VZW's website. The customer rep that helped me a few months back acted as if he was doing me a favor.

If this $10 discount (off the $30 price to be added to the plan for a basic phone) is available as an option online, that would be really beneficial.