Carriers interference with phone design good or evil??

[Ry]

Exactly, and while they are selling the phones to customers, they are also the point fo contact for any issues. It is in their favor to lock down phones so that users cant screw with them and cause problems, because those issues get dealt with by the carrier. The last thing they want is to be hearing about rooted phones not working, bricks, broken apps, etc. Unless people (In the US especially) want to go to buying phones outright, no discounts, and getting support from the OEM, you won;t see the carrier influence go away anytime soon. And that's not even accounting for things like tethering, that can be allowed via root, but not off a stock phone. (more cost for carrier)

Agreed.

When (normal, not us here on the forums) people have problems with their phones, they take it to their carrier store - not Samsung, not HTC, not Motorola.

On the tethering point, as carriers moved to tiered, they've been including it in the plans.

 

[Ry]

Which is wrong way of thinking, With this logic i could say that for electronics store is a customer of manufacture not us. Manufactures only makes deals with carrier but money from sells on whatever carrier goes back to them, manufacture gets customer right on the bat and carrier gets subscriber... it's a profit deal on both sides.

For the OEM, this model probably gives them near-guaranteed revenue. Not to mention the support is usually handled by the carrier.

 

[gollum18]

Actually when any of my phones break I return them to the OEM not the carrier. I certainly don't let them con me into a warranty( besides paying for texting that's the second biggest rip off a carrier can do to someone ). Most if not all oems for mobile phones include one or two year warranty with your phone. All you have to do is have the original receipt with the date of purchase and your good to go.

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[Ry]

Actually when any of my phones break I return them to the OEM not the carrier. I certainly don't let them con me into a warranty( besides paying for texting that's the second biggest rip off a carrier can do to someone ). Most if not all oems for mobile phones include one or two year warranty with your phone. All you have to do is have the original receipt with the date of purchase and your good to go.

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I doubt that this is the norm though.

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[Shadowriver]

Carrier would send it to OEM anyway

 

[bp3dots]

Actually when any of my phones break I return them to the OEM not the carrier. I certainly don't let them con me into a warranty( besides paying for texting that's the second biggest rip off a carrier can do to someone ). Most if not all oems for mobile phones include one or two year warranty with your phone. All you have to do is have the original receipt with the date of purchase and your good to go.

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You are certainly in the minority in the US for going to the OEM for tech needs. Almost everyone goes through the carrier, especially folks who don't come to these kinds of sites. As for insurance, It helps a lot more people than you might think, and is worth it IMO. Most of the broken phones I see at work wouldn't be covered under warranty, and most people don't have replacement phones to use while they send theirs out to get fixed, and almost nobody wants to drop 5-700 bucks on a replacement. That $100 deductible for anything is not a terrible deal.

 

[jcsugrue]

Evil. A carrier should be a carrier and just that. I wouldn't except the Water Authority to start changing the color of my water, or giving it a floral scent. Nor would I expect them to limit what I can do with the water, if I'm paying my bill. I should be allowed to drink it, freeze it, cool my car with it, or irrigate a giant marijuana cultivation operation if I so please. The same should go for carriers. Take my money, give me my service, keep your bloat off my phone, and don't tell me what I can do with my bandwidth.

 

[cyanogen-man]

Evil. A carrier should be a carrier and just that. I wouldn't except the Water Authority to start changing the color of my water, or giving it a floral scent. Nor would I expect them to limit what I can do with the water, if I'm paying my bill. I should be allowed to drink it, freeze it, cool my car with it, or irrigate a giant marijuana cultivation operation if I so please. The same should go for carriers. Take my money, give me my service, keep your bloat off my phone, and don't tell me what I can do with my bandwidth.

thank you!!!! exactly. this is also the reason that google with it's resources has to sell the nexus through the play store. i'm sure theres a good reason for this as carrier are so insistent on bloat ware locked boot loader crippled functionality. Even apple with the face time how in the hell are you going to cripple a built in feature so you can make money off of it??? Same with the wifi teathering even on my inspire in stock froyo and ginger bread at&t would make me give up unlimited data tie me down then charge me an extra 20 a month for something the oem put into the phone. Bottom line carriers hate free anything and will make a 500 yard dash for your wallet. smfh Get with the program they need to do like Europe we pay out rite for the device then they would be a truely compeditive market like prepaid. not compeditive into how much they can make themselves extra money for things that the phone is capable of without a premium