change my view, i think the blackberry slider will flop

[tesjavis]

Here's my general consensus for that statement:

John Chen is completely incompetent, hasn't saved the company and is totally stubborn by not switching to Android, allowing users to install apk's was a half-arsed solution as there was still little reason why we shouldn't just buy an Android phone.

Touch screens have more in common with computer keyboards, blackberry keyboards require a physical press, computer keyboards require a tap just like a smartphone.

Nobody wants to have to get used to a physical keyboard

I got a few friends to test how fast they could type on a blackberry compared to a touch screen, the touch screen was significantly faster, also the blackberry was no way near as fast as a computer keyboard which is why people like blackberry's

The slider will be incredibly expensive just like the passport, the useless/slower physical keyboard will not be worth the price and seeing that it's useless the blackberry slider can only be a fad, people will realise it's slower and then not repeat purchase, so will only recover blackberry in short term.

Physical keyboard will be incredibly uncomfortable to type on with a 5.5" slider, very top heavy.

let me know if I'm wrong!

 

[trekk]

Well I don't disagree with you, but there are significant advantages to a physical keyboard over touch screen one.

When your typing long emails and you have full screen real estate and no keyboard that eats half your screen its actually pretty cool.

The mechanical feel of a physical keyboard is nice

Keyboard shortcuts are a great addition.

Will it fail or succeed no idea let's just wait and see.

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[tesjavis]

Well I don't disagree with you, but there are significant advantages to a physical keyboard over touch screen one.

When your typing long emails and you have full screen real estate and no keyboard that eats half your screen its actually pretty cool.

The mechanical feel of a physical keyboard is nice

Keyboard shortcuts are a great addition.

Will it fail or succeed no idea let's just wait and see.

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I personally think physical keyboard feel terrible!

 

[Runningwarrior08]

I personally think physical keyboard feel terrible!

See I think the exact opposite. I hate autocorrect and text prediction. I miss my palm Pre and my BB curve ... Best keyboards ever. If done right this will be my next phone.. Well maybe not next as there is a Nexus and Z5 coming. But I will get it when it releases if sub 550. Over that I will wait for used.

 

[pgg101]

I like the fact that I can type without looking at my keyboard. Helpful when I'm walking from one meeting to another.

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[awirboy]

Exactly, people with different opinions. Like I can't imagine myself using a full touch handset all the time.

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[darigaaz12]

Back when I had a treo or palm pre, it was no contest against a touch screen. Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work for everyone else.

It's funny because no one wanted to get used to touch screen typing when it first came out. I hated it and I'm still not a huge fan and I'm in the younger crowd myself...

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[crester]

OP... that has got to be one of the dumbest rants I've read in a long while.

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[Carrtman]

And this couldn't have gone somewhere else? so you don't like it fine, there really isn't much more to discuss

 

[scmcc16]

Here's my general consensus for that statement:

John Chen is completely incompetent, hasn't saved the company and is totally stubborn by not switching to Android, allowing users to install apk's was a half-arsed solution as there was still little reason why we shouldn't just buy an Android phone.

I completely disagree with you. JC has kept BlackBerry afloat since coming on board with BlackBerry. It's obvious that he's more worried about the company as a whole vice just the hardware business. Once the cash bleeding stops and the company as a whole is consistently making money then the hardware division will be brought back into the picture. As for install APKs, not sure if you are associating JC with this or not but that was TH's doing.

Touch screens have more in common with computer keyboards, blackberry keyboards require a physical press, computer keyboards require a tap just like a smartphone.

I guess you haven't used the latest generation of BB Keyboard then. A light press in addition to it being touch sensitive for flick typing kills everything on the market regarding keyboards. I moved from a Z30 to Passport and type much better on the Passport than the 30. Which was much better than any Android keyboard I have used.

Nobody wants to have to get used to a physical keyboard

Then don't, use the BlackBerry VKB then. Again better than any Android one out there.

The slider will be incredibly expensive just like the passport, the useless/slower physical keyboard will not be worth the price and seeing that it's useless the blackberry slider can only be a fad, people will realise it's slower and then not repeat purchase, so will only recover blackberry in short term.

You're probably right here. Although I am sure they have some partnerships with Samsung on this device (i.e. screen). I don't think the goal of the device is to make massive amounts of cash for company, although that would be nice! It's to pentrate the Android Market place and set BlackBerry as a name there and show how it is different than the rest of the companies. Which is no small task. The next BlackBerry Android device you will see will be an all touch no doubt. Something which people like you prefer and a device which the company can make money off of.

Physical keyboard will be incredibly uncomfortable to type on with a 5.5" slider, very top heavy.

It's not according to a leaked video kicking around somewhere. Sorry don't have the link, nor the time to look for it now after this long response, lol. Apparently, its weighted in the middle and not top heavy at all like the old Torches. As well, it was stated to be extremely confortable in your hand. If I find that video I'll throw the link up here.


Anyways, I get your points. Just my counter points. I think that it'll be worth a look at the carriers' retail shops once it's released for sale.

 

[Mr4aces]

I like the fact that I can type without looking at my keyboard. Helpful when I'm walking from one meeting to another.

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+1

There is nothing faster than a BlackBerry keyboard. Type without looking and one handed.

I seriously doubt that he can type faster than a person that is proficient on a pkb.

 

[Zedd88]

+1

There is nothing faster than a BlackBerry keyboard. Type without looking and one handed.

I seriously doubt that he can type faster than a person that is proficient on a pkb.

Also, the pkbs of Blackberry is now capacitive. Making autocomplete possible, although I still feel typing the whole word is better since you can type without looking at the screen. Something which I just did right now while typing this post.

While Swipe typing may be faster, it is too dependent on the autocorrection algorithm thus making it error prone.

The most efficient way of typing is still with the PKB that is capacitive. Efficient means speed and accuracy combined.

For me the jury is still our for the Priv's keyboard because I am not sure how the sliding keyboard will feel especially since the Priv is a long phone when the keyboard slides out. But that is the beauty of this form factor, you can still use it even without sliding the phone out.

 

[B3t0]

I got a few friends to test how fast they could type on a blackberry compared to a touch screen, the touch screen was significantly faster

Really??????? With how many autocorrect errors.... LMAO

Touch Screen Keyboards sucks!!!!

 

[Geodude074]

I hated touchscreen texting when it first came out. But that was 4 years ago when most Androids were 4.3 inches or below. My first Android was 3.5 inches, and texting on it was terrible.

Now my current phone is 5.2 inches and texting on landscape isn't so bad. Still not as good as texting on a physical keyboard in landscape mode though.

Having said that, it was a stupid decision on BlackBerry's part to make the phone a top-slider, because texting in portrait mode feels really, really cramped, even more cramped than texting on a 3.5 inch in landscape, and that was the worst texting experience I've ever had.