Charge battery before initial use?

[MoreDef]

i mean, i could imagine leaving it in your pocked while you worked out or something, which might then get soaked in sweat...but at the end of the day, a lot of the reasons older phones failed were due to poor decisions. dropped in toilet, ran over because it was left on top of the car, etc. nowadays, it's stuff like, fell from lap, knocked off of table, fell out of pocket....simple stuff. older phones took more of a beating and were less dependent on being coddled, protected, cased and reinforced. they were good to go out the box and had some level of real world durability.

 

[blackhawkhot]

I've never heard of a phone dying from sweat. Even if sweat droplets landed on your non water resistant device, it would not make its way in without assistance.

How would you hear about it?
It would just glitch and die.
Could happen months even years after one exposure.
Familiar with flood damaged vehicles (fresh water)?
I am. If the water gets into the main wiring harness connectors, they will eventually fail.

Unfortunately I know what I'm talking about.
The salt can migrate over time depending on ambient humidity, handling with sweaty or damp hands or wipe downs. Many mobos have a conformal coating to protect the fine pitch traces if not it will cause hell if it gets to these or a microconnector, a switch (these fail, don't they even though the action still seems good) or contacts for the power or display.

A drop in salt water will kill any none water tight device especially if powered instantly. Not a good plan to expose even water proofed ones to salt water.

 

[Mike Dee]

How would you hear about it?
It would just glitch and die.
Could happen months even years after one exposure.
Familiar with flood damaged vehicles (fresh water)?
I am. If the water gets into the main wiring harness connectors, they will eventually fail.

Unfortunately I know what I'm talking about.
The salt can migrate over time depending on ambient humidity, handling with sweaty or damp hands or wipe downs. Many mobos have a conformal coating to protect the fine pitch traces if not it will cause hell if it gets to these or a microconnector, a switch (these fail, don't they even though the action still seems good) or contacts for the power or display.

A drop in salt water will kill any none water tight device especially if powered instantly. Not a good plan to expose even water proofed ones to salt water.

This thread was about battery charging.

You made the bizzare claim. So how would you hear about it? I don't believe anyone has killed a phone by sweating on it

Most of us that have been here awhile know about salt and water damage.

 

[blackhawkhot]

i mean, i could imagine leaving it in your pocked while you worked out or something, which might then get soaked in sweat...but at the end of the day, a lot of the reasons older phones failed were due to poor decisions. dropped in toilet, ran over because it was left on top of the car, etc. nowadays, it's stuff like, fell from lap, knocked off of table, fell out of pocket....simple stuff. older phones took more of a beating and were less dependent on being coddled, protected, cased and reinforced. they were good to go out the box and had some level of real world durability.

Yeah ain't that the truth. Phones get it from every direction. I loved the indestructible ruggedized flip tops Samsung used to make. Know one girl who ran her's over in the driveway, no damage.

I live in desert and dust is omnipresent fact of life. Along with the water resistance comes better dust resistance most times too.
I avoided getting an earlier Note and buy the active series for the extra layer of protection. Then a good case on top of that. More than once water made it into my Otterbox.
Wipe it down, no big deal with a water tight unit.
It's a nice feeling to retire a smartphone still working and not be forced into making a snap purchase... worth a try.

 

[DanielLoreti]

I've gone under 30% and charged to 100% regularly for 6 weeks now and I've used my Ultra in the sunlight. I'm terrified I've damaged my battery now after reading this thread.

 

[mustang7757]

I've gone under 30% and charged to 100% regularly for 6 weeks now and I've used my Ultra in the sunlight. I'm terrified I've damaged my battery now after reading this thread.

Don't worry , as long as you don't let it go dead repeatedly your fine .

 

[Mike Dee]

I've gone under 30% and charged to 100% regularly for 6 weeks now and I've used my Ultra in the sunlight. I'm terrified I've damaged my battery now after reading this thread.

You'll be fine....what do you mean by sunlight?

 

[DanielLoreti]

Don't worry , as long as you don't let it go dead repeatedly your fine .

I've never let it go below 20% and that was only a couple times.

 

[Mike Dee]

I've never let it go below 20% and that was only a couple times.

You will be fine

 

[DanielLoreti]

You'll be fine....what do you mean by sunlight?

Someone said it was bad for the battery to use in sunlight.

 

[Mike Dee]

Someone said it was bad for the battery to use in sunlight.

Please elaborate....we all use our devices in sunlight. Do you mean it's laying out in the hot sun or in use on your car's dashboard.

 

[mustang7757]

I've never let it go below 20% and that was only a couple times.

Like I mentioned you'll be fine , whats mentioned in this thread is for best battery care if you keep your device over 3 years .

 

[mustang7757]

Someone said it was bad for the battery to use in sunlight.

Not use in sunlight , if you leave it on the dash for 2 hours in direct sunlight not good

 

[DanielLoreti]

Please elaborate....we all use our devices in sunlight. Do you mean it's laying out in the hot sun or in use on your car's dashboard.

The member who said something about sweat hurting the phone said "Be careful with sunlight on the display, it can drive the device temperature levels into the critical range fast. Especially with a case on it, smartphones dissipate much of their waste heat via the screen.
Blew out the screen on my S4+ like that while using it."

 

[blackhawkhot]

Like I mentioned you'll be fine , whats mentioned in this thread is for best battery care if you keep your device over 3 years .

What's done is done. You don't kill an LI in one day or even month unless you smash it. They are well protected from extreme electrical insults.

Here's a cool app I'm playing with. Free version with some interesting features like a bell that rings when it reaches the level of charge you want with screen off.

 

[Morty2264]

i mean, i could imagine leaving it in your pocked while you worked out or something, which might then get soaked in sweat...but at the end of the day, a lot of the reasons older phones failed were due to poor decisions. dropped in toilet, ran over because it was left on top of the car, etc. nowadays, it's stuff like, fell from lap, knocked off of table, fell out of pocket....simple stuff. older phones took more of a beating and were less dependent on being coddled, protected, cased and reinforced. they were good to go out the box and had some level of real world durability.

I agree with you. I remember I had that older navy blue Nokia as an emergency phone when I was 16; and that thing took a beating. I feel like I was always shoving it in my backpack or in other places and it never skipped a beat. Good times.

 

[blackhawkhot]

Here's a look inside at the Note 10+ charging protocols.
Expect similar technology in this generation of phones.
It even has a new battery protocol it implements for the first couple charge cycles.
A tricky critter...
https://gtrusted.com/samsung-galaxy...power-delivery-but-can-actually-charge-slower

 

[cardboard60]

When i get a new phone.
Its plugged in while I set it up.
I charge it to 100%.
I don't play with the battery.
I let it learn. That I want to keep it at 100%.
Aint babying a battery

 

[amyf27]

Should I charge the battery before turning on the phone for the first time?

What’s the best thing to do for the S20+ right after taking out of the box ?

I would let it charge up before doing anything with it.

 

[cardboard60]

Why

Who can wait on setting up the phone.
I drive 50 miles just to pick up my phone.
I've never let a phone charge up.