Company forcing me to Apple products

[dhendriksen]

The title says it all. After being with Android since the release of the original Droid on VZW, I'm being forced to Apple. They gave me a Macbook Pro, iPad Air and iPhone 6+. They said Android isn't secure enough to access their networks and store their data.

The good news is all the new stuff is free. Am I going to hate it as bad as I'm thinking? Does anyone bounce back and forth?

 

[jj14x]

Unless you switch jobs, you don't really have an option

In all honesty, it isn't as bad as folks make it out to be. Yes, you do lose out out customization, and the flexibility that you have with Android, but the commonly used apps are still available, and more importantly, most of the Google services (including Google Now) are available on iOS.

My employer (fairly large company - over 100k people) did something similar - iOS only products on their network. Several of us reached out the leadership and pushed for them to approve Android, and they finally relented (6 months later). Final testing is in progress.
We basically said that we aren't going to carry two devices, and don't want to switch from Android to Apple. So, if they wanted to keep Android off the approved devices list, we wouldn't carry a company phone.

 

[PAC757]

Our company will only give us Windows phones, I carry 2 phones one personal and one work phone. Actually for work purposes the HTC One M8 for Windows is a pretty cool phone, and the battery life on Windows phones is crazy. I've had this one and a Nokia Icon and it's almost impossible to kill the battery in one day. I wouldn't want it for my ONLY phone, but for work its pretty useful considering everything at work is Microsoft Windows based. But no matter what the Windows Phone die hard say, the lack of apps is a real big letdown.

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[robinhelenehebert]

The title says it all. After being with Android since the release of the original Droid on VZW, I'm being forced to Apple. They gave me a Macbook Pro, iPad Air and iPhone 6+. They said Android isn't secure enough to access their networks and store their data.

The good news is all the new stuff is free. Am I going to hate it as bad as I'm thinking? Does anyone bounce back and forth?

Oh poor baby lol..... Apple is awesome! I have both... I speak two platforms.

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[21stNow]

I bounce back and forth, with the majority of my time spent on Android devices. All of my devices are mostly for personal use (and all owned by me). If I were in your shoes, I would probably just do work tasks on the work-issued devices and reserve all of my personal use to my personal Android devices.

If you are only using your work-provided devices, then none of the above will apply. You may hate or you may love using Apple products. Only you will know the answer to that.

 

[IAmSixNine]

Its not so bad. I manage a handset repair company and my work phone is an iPhone 6, but my personal phone will always be android.
Consider your self lucky, you get the best of both worlds, and the company is paying for the apple part.

 

[thunderbolt_nick]

The title says it all. After being with Android since the release of the original Droid on VZW, I'm being forced to Apple. They gave me a Macbook Pro, iPad Air and iPhone 6+. They said Android isn't secure enough to access their networks and store their data.

The good news is all the new stuff is free. Am I going to hate it as bad as I'm thinking? Does anyone bounce back and forth?

I also have my Apple devices for work (paid for by the company because I work for the company that makes them ) and Android for personal. I like them for work purposes but that's about it. That's just me personally though based on my needs.

 

[DroidTron]

Another thing to consider is that equipment owned by your employer can be accessed and monitored by them. If you setup your personal email, store pictures, or any other personal or sensitive information on those work issued devices, your employer has full legal authority to access that stuff.

If that kind of thing is important to you, best bet is to keep your personal stuff on your own devices.

 

[derdjango]

#firstworldproblems

 

[DroidTron]

#firstworldproblems

Indeed. Unless your smartphone is the only phone and internet source for your village, every issue in this forum is a first world problem.

 

[TacoKingYo]

I've had an iPhone for about a year and a half now. Much prefer Android due to customizability, better prices, etc. Can't wait to get my next phone, hopefully an Android (Nexus 6 )

 

[cwbcpa]

I prefer android but I have an iPhone 6 plus and used it exclusively for about 6 months. It's a great phone, but I prefer my Note 4 over it. I don't have other apple products,but since you are using an iPad and Mac you may enjoy the way they work together. Good luck!

Sent from my Note 4

 

[derdjango]

Indeed. Unless your smartphone is the only phone and internet source for your village, every issue in this forum is a first world problem.

So what? You don't think that it's ridiculous to whine like 'hey, my company just gave me products worth what.. like almost 3k, but I prefer android'. C'mon guys.

 

[dhendriksen]

So what? You don't think that it's ridiculous to whine like 'hey, my company just gave me products worth what.. like almost 3k, but I prefer android'. C'mon guys.

Sorry, I didn't think it was necessarily whining. I'm digging the iPad (typing this on it now) and the MacBook Pro. I haven't taken the iPhone 6+ out of the box yet as I've been too busy to tackle all the setup. I'll hopefully get to that on Monday.

Sorry if I offended anyone.


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[jj14x]

So what? You don't think that it's ridiculous to whine like 'hey, my company just gave me products worth what.. like almost 3k, but I prefer android'.

Not sure I'd call it whining - I know I'd feel the same way if my employer asked me to use an Apple/Blackberry/Window Phone device - as compared to the Android device that I like. It is just that person's opinion, and that person shared it with the community, to get their thoughts about iOS.

 

[DroidTron]

If I don't use my personal device for work notifications, my company will provide a pocket pager. You know, one of those things that beeps and vibrates, has a black and white LCD screen, and isn't even 2 way. I believe even the developing world is way ahead of this technology. Needless to say, if provided with an iPhone, I'd definitely use it over a 1990's relic.

 

[DC Wuff]

Unless you switch jobs, you don't really have an option

In all honesty, it isn't as bad as folks make it out to be. Yes, you do lose out out customization, and the flexibility that you have with Android, but the commonly used apps are still available, and more importantly, most of the Google services (including Google Now) are available on iOS.

My employer (fairly large company - over 100k people) did something similar - iOS only products on their network. Several of us reached out the leadership and pushed for them to approve Android, and they finally relented (6 months later). Final testing is in progress.
We basically said that we aren't going to carry two devices, and don't want to switch from Android to Apple. So, if they wanted to keep Android off the approved devices list, we wouldn't carry a company phone.

I'm stunned that a company with over 100k employees hasn't adopted virtualization and/or containerization for laptops, tables, and mobile phones. The idea that your company thinks it's safer to have all those devices out and about, while still being "on the [company's] network" in the traditional sense, is ludicrous. If any of those devices is compromised, the door into the rest of the network is wide open -- even with MDM in place.

The moral of the story: stop wasting so much effort on securing mobile devices, and focus on securing the data!

 

[jj14x]

I'm stunned that a company with over 100k employees hasn't adopted virtualization and/or containerization for laptops, tables, and mobile phones. The idea that your company thinks it's safer to have all those devices out and about, while still being "on the [company's] network" in the traditional sense, is ludicrous. If any of those devices is compromised, the door into the rest of the network is wide open -- even with MDM in place.

The moral of the story: stop wasting so much effort on securing mobile devices, and focus on securing the data!

Trying to understand your post:
How exactly does one virtualize a mobile phone/tablet? Any large consulting company will have their employees out at client sites and other locations, and they have to have access to the company's network. Yes, if any device is compromised, the door to the network is "partially" open (depending on that user's access level, and also because a stolen device does not necessarily mean stolen credentials) Device encryption and remote wipes also help.

In today's world, securing a mobile device is just as important as securing the data. Securing the data is of no use if a device (with access to that data) is compromised.

 

[dhendriksen]

Well, I sold my Nexus 6 last night and have made the full jump to iOS as of about 2.5 weeks ago. My biggest gripes: notifications and keyboard. I'm used to seeing all my notifications at the top, without having to go look for them. And I'm really missing the Google keyboard with swipe functionality. Otherwise I'm getting along okay.

I cried a little watching my nexus leave, but it wasn't doing any good sitting in my nightstand.

I will say that I am very impressed with the battery life on this phone.


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[DC Wuff]

Trying to understand your post:
How exactly does one virtualize a mobile phone/tablet? Any large consulting company will have their employees out at client sites and other locations, and they have to have access to the company's network. Yes, if any device is compromised, the door to the network is "partially" open (depending on that user's access level, and also because a stolen device does not necessarily mean stolen credentials) Device encryption and remote wipes also help.

In today's world, securing a mobile device is just as important as securing the data. Securing the data is of no use if a device (with access to that data) is compromised.

Sorry -- I went on vacation right after I posted this and forgot all about it.

For mobile phones, containerization is the most typical solution. A real-world example: I work for a government agency that routinely processes sensitive unclassified information. I get my work email on my personal Nexus 6. That work email lives inside an encrypted container, and I cannot copy/paste data back and forth between the container and the rest of my phone. The government "owns", manages, monitors, and secures the container and the data within, and has the ability to perform multi-pass remote wipes of the container. They do not secure my entire personal device; however, I did grant them the permission to remote-wipe my whole device, if needed, as part of my user agreement.

As for my work desktop, I use a virtual desktop (VDI) 100 percent of the time, regardless of my location. At the office, I use a zero client, and remotely, I use my personal Chromebooks, MacBooks, and tablets to access that same VDI via Citrix Receiver. The government "owns", manages, and secures the VDI session, and all of my data remains in the datacenter, but the government does not have any purview over my personal devices and does not secure them.

Some people use government-issued equipment, including phones, tablets, and laptops, and those devices are fully secured by the government. But that just makes sense.