Definitely July! [edit]

It was classless the stunt he pulled on the members here. Only one who laughed was him.

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Agreed.
Wow, I agree with CK! I do believe that is the 3rd sign of the apocalypse
 
Agreed.
Wow, I agree with CK! I do believe that is the 3rd sign of the apocalypse
Hey whats wrong with agreeing with me? :)

I'm not a bad guy for crying out loud lol. I'm in your corner but you just haven't figured that out yet. Ahh well one day :)
 
traitors, all of you!!!

Who are they betraying? Some stupid things lead some people to believe someone was going to release some information (after recently gaining some Forum Cred for something similar). and then that person "Forgot" about it when they got a new phone and the next day came back with a J/K.

I am personally glad I didn't do the hours of refreshing like I did the first time or I would be really pissed myself.
 
no, what you did to those guys in that thread was wrong. You didn't even have the common decency to apologize to them.

That kind of thing is not funny maybe one day you will figure that out.
actually i did, so next time do ur research

and im glad people actually agree with you for once
 
Well I just got back from returning my charge and I feel a huge weight lifted off my shoulders. Don't get me wrong the charge wasn't a bad phone but just what I haven't waited the last 6 months for. My friend was working today so I didn't get hassled to try to keep it and only paid $15 restocking after I was refunded my $20 early upgrade fee. Other side note he said they removed the BB unlimited data and the other (android) data plan to just a single unlimited so there is now no question if I go from a Blackberry to Android and 3G to 4G. He isn't sure if I will get my NE2 back but oh well it was only $30 for my plan. Now I can resume my wait for Bionic. BRING IT MOTO!
 
So I have a BB Storm, will I be able to keep the unlimited plan when I upgrade to a bionic or do I need to have a Droid phone to now to keep the unlimited?
 
Developers kick out better ROMS than the manufacturers. There is something wrong with that picture. at any rate there will always be issues with software. In the end though its the manfactueres responsibility to get a stable build out the door. Developers do it all the time.

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See this all the time on these forums. I have just a couple of comments:

All the ROM developers you speak of are doing their work on the backs of all the software engineers working for Google and the carriers. It's a little different 'tweaking' someone elses code rather than writing it from scratch.

Go to any support thread for any custom ROM out there and there are plenty of posts about bugs. Just seems people are much more forgiving when it comes to bugs in custom ROMs.

Now before anyone starts flaming on me let me say I think the developer community for Android is filled with really talented guys doing some amazing things, but to talk about how they put the software engineers working for Google and the carriers to shame is, I think, ridiculous. They are dealing with many constraints that the ROM developer never has to consider.
 
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See this all the time on these forums. I have just a couple of comments:

All the ROM developers you speak of are doing their work on the backs of all the software engineers working for Google and the carriers. It's a little different 'tweaking' someone elses code rather than writing it from scratch.

Go to any support thread for any custom ROM out there and there are plenty of posts about bugs. Just seems people are much more forgiving when it comes to bugs in custom ROMs.

Now before anyone starts flaming on me let me say I think the developer community for Android is filled with really talented guys doing some amazing things, but to talk about how they put the software engineers working for Google and the carriers to shame is, I think, ridiculous. They are dealing with many constraints that the ROM developer never has to consider.

The difference is these devs have full time jobs and get the bugs fixed in a matter of days where as companies who have workers dedicated to just software and bug fixes takes them weeks and most always months. Doesnt make sense to me.
 
The difference is these devs have full time jobs and get the bugs fixed in a matter of days where as companies who have workers dedicated to just software and bug fixes takes them weeks and most always months. Doesnt make sense to me.

The bug is most likely fixed in days. The weeks and months are the testing and approval process.
 
The bug is most likely fixed in days. The weeks and months are the testing and approval process.

I can attest to that. Sometimes the issue is with the company providing the software. In this case google. But at the same time the issues could reside with moto because they will not move away from blur and want google to conform to blur. SAP has similar issues. Companies can customize the software to do what they want but sometimes SAP can't do what they want or has issues in its programming that are beyond the companies ability to modify. Personally I think google and manufacturers are going through similar situations across the board. Hard to point blame unless we knew exactly what the issue is. And I have a feeling that is beyond most if not all of our comprehension in these forums. This concept also applies to the comment of devs vs google/moto devs. Sure they are talented, but they can only use what they have. Garbage in, garbage out. You can tweak, but what was originally written in code has to be acceptable too.

In the end google came out with code that may or may not have been good. Moto then came in and gave it their moto touch. It may have broken some things or it may have improved. Then custom devs came in and tried to optimize what they could. A lot of hard work went into all of it and shouldnt be underappreciated at all. Even blur. I personally dont mind it at all.

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