Demo units arrive in Verizon Store.

[Unicorn56]

Samsung is Verizon's customer here. Verizon asked them to put the logo on there and Samsung agreed to do it. Do you really think there was any hesitation by Samsung or that Verizon forced them to do it? Of course not, it was a mutual business agreement that benefits both parties, simple as that. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Move on.

Exactly! And Roll Tide!

 

[superlawyer15]

Samsung is Verizon's customer here. Verizon asked them to put the logo on there and Samsung agreed to do it. Do you really think there was any hesitation by Samsung or that Verizon forced them to do it? Of course not, it was a mutual business agreement that benefits both parties, simple as that. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Move on.

everything you wrote is flat out wrong!

for starters, its verizon that's samsung's customer, not the other way around
second, everything else you wrote is useless given that you arent privileged to any internal negotiations between the two companies. This is all in addition to the fact that samsung in no way benefits by having another company's logo on their product. Furthermore, your use of a phrase such as "mutual business agreement" indicates that you have no formal or practical business experiences and thus are in no position to make assumptions as to the practices of major corporations.

Now, since there seems to be a lot of clueless individuals let me elaborate:
Its more than just a logo, its indicative of the carriers bargaining position in comparison to the manufacturer. No other carrier had their logo printed on the home button, this indicates that it was done at the request of Verizon. In order for Samsung to undertake the cost and added time needed to do so, there must have been something to motivate them to do so, and the only logical thing is that Verizon probably would have refused to carry the device had they not done so.

Furthermore, in keeping with the notion that it is a disadvantage to have the carrier have such a strong negotiating stance, consider this;
Verizon's model is the only one (to my knowledge) to ship with a locked bootloader, thus severely limiting one's ability to install custom roms. This is a far more functional limitation than a logo on a button but it stems from my complaint that verizon has too much power over OEMS.
We are also likely to be effected in regards to future updates, since Verizon is likely to exert more influence into what the updates contain and when they are pushed out.

Bottom line, its more than just the logo, and if you can't understand that this problem encompasses more than just a printed logo than you shouldn't be commenting on the issue.
This goes beyond just the Note 2, its about Verizon's anti-consumer business practices in general

 

[kilofoxtrot]

mkhalil06... unless Verizon is doing something illegal.... and they are not. Then they can run their business as they want.

Would you not want the same for yourself? Sure, I dont want the logo on the button. My recourse is to speak with my wallet... Strong arm, leverage etc etc, call it what you want..... some even call it negotiation. Its the way business works.

 

[thirsy1258]

Like a Boss

everything you wrote is flat out wrong!

for starters, its verizon that's samsung's customer, not the other way around
second, everything else you wrote is useless given that you are privileged to any internal negotiations between the two companies. This is all in addition to the fact that samsung in no way benefits by having another company's logo on their product. Furthermore, your use of a phrase such as "mutual business agreement" indicates that you have no formal or practical business experiences and thus are in no position to make assumptions as to the practices of major corporations.

Now, since there seems to be a lot of clueless individuals let me elaborate:
Its more than just a logo, its indicative of the carriers bargaining position in comparison to the manufacturer. No other carrier had their logo printed on the home button, this indicates that it was done at the request of Verizon. In order for Samsung to undertake the cost and added time needed to do so, there must have been something to motivate them to do so, and the only logical thing is that Verizon probably would have refused to carry the device had they not done so.

Furthermore, in keeping with the notion that it is a disadvantage to have the carrier have such a strong negotiating stance, consider this;
Verizon's model is the only one (to my knowledge) to ship with a locked bootloader, thus severely limiting one's ability to install custom roms. This is a far more functional limitation than a logo on a button but it stems from my complaint that verizon has too much power over OEMS.
We are also likely to be effected in regards to future updates, since Verizon is likely to exert more influence into what the updates contain and when they are pushed out.

Bottom line, its more than just the logo, and if you can't understand that this problem encompasses more than just a printed logo than you shouldn't be commenting on the issue.
This goes beyond just the Note 2, its about Verizon's anti-consumer business practices in general

 

[superlawyer15]

mkhalil06... unless Verizon is doing something illegal.... and they are not. Then they can run their business as they want.

Would you not want the same for yourself? Sure, I dont want the logo on the button. My recourse is to speak with my wallet... Strong arm, leverage etc etc, call it what you want..... some even call it negotiation. Its the way business works.

you are 100% correct
but i have little say in who my firm utilizes as a cellular carrier

 

[anon(394005)]

Exactly! And Roll Tide!

LOL I'm not from Alabama, I just live here. Go Dawgs! and Go Irish!

 

[Markster1]

I bet you Samsung does benefit from the logo placement, they charge money to put it on for Verizon!

The Nottinator

 

[superlawyer15]

I bet you Samsung does benefit from the logo placement, they charge money to put it on for Verizon!

The Nottinator

lol I give you a ton of credit for pointing that out
...but i doubt thats the case

 

[leroybrute]

You are clearly uneducated in regards to this issue (or as your grammar suggests, in general)

Its not about the logo itself
Its about the control Verizon has over the device manufacturer

I have dealt with it all my life with Chevron and Midas. I am very educated in product branding. And your issues aren't about Verizon having control over the manufacturer or the product. Otherwise you wouldn't buy it. If you buy it you're supporting branding.

Do you think scratching it off fixes everything. Does that make you a non branding supporter. No it doesn't! You're a contradiction.! In your case its about the logo!
PS. You help me with my grammar and I will help find you a proctologist.

 

[superlawyer15]

I have dealt with it all my life with Chevron and Midas. I am very educated in product branding. And your issues aren't about Verizon having control over the manufacturer or the product. Otherwise you wouldn't buy it. If you buy it you're supporting branding.

Do you think scratching it off fixes everything. Does that make you a non branding supporter. No it doesn't! You're a contradiction.! In your case its about the logo!
PS. You help me with my grammar and I will help find you a proctologist.

I never claimed that by scratching the logo off it alleviates the underlying problem
it's simply a preference...

I could of made (and did) the exact same argument in regards to the bootloader
would later unlocking it via a leak be a contradiction? No

I think you need to look up the word "contradiction"

 

[Markster1]

I have dealt with it all my life with Chevron and Midas. I am very educated in product branding. And your issues aren't about Verizon having control over the manufacturer or the product. Otherwise you wouldn't buy it. If you buy it you're supporting branding.

Do you think scratching it off fixes everything. Does that make you a non branding supporter. No it doesn't! You're a contradiction.! In your case its about the logo!
PS. You help me with my grammar and I will help find you a proctologist.

I need a LOL button.

The Nottinator

 

[Joe the Insider]

I have dealt with it all my life with Chevron and Midas. I am very educated in product branding. And your issues aren't about Verizon having control over the manufacturer or the product. Otherwise you wouldn't buy it. If you buy it you're supporting branding.

Do you think scratching it off fixes everything. Does that make you a non branding supporter. No it doesn't! You're a contradiction.! In your case its about the logo!
PS. You help me with my grammar and I will help find you a proctologist.

LOL

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[svenEDGE]

Hahahaha this dude is talking about people having poor grammar skills but he just said "I would of..." Hahahaha what a tool.

Sent from my DROIDX (sold my GNex to buy the Galaxy Note II)

 

[dynesh]

Go Dawgs!

Exactly! And Roll Tide!

 

[nlitenme]

Can you confirm whether the app/widget screen and homescreens have continuous scrolling like the GS3?

I just got to play with one & unfortunately no, it does not keep scrolling. When you get all the way to the left or right side, it stops with a slight bending affect.

 

[leroybrute]

I just got to play with one & unfortunately no, it does not keep scrolling. When you get all the way to the left or right side, it stops with a slight bending affect.

That stinks! One of my favorite features with any launcher.

I bet Verizon made Samsung take that feature away. Lol

 

[ToddL]

Exactly! And Roll Tide!

Yes, but only because I really, really don't like Notre Dame. Mine arrives by 2pm tomorrow (in the store). w00t.

 

[AdamHLG]

I will never get the 90 seconds back that it took me to read this thread.

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[JoJoCal19]

I just got to play with one & unfortunately no, it does not keep scrolling. When you get all the way to the left or right side, it stops with a slight bending affect.

Son of a bish! Well now I don't know what to do. It's not that it's a feature that makes of breaks the phone but when I take the sum o things VZW has done with this phone from delayed launch, logo on home button, locked bootloader, and now this, I just can't bring myself to support that by buying it. It's the principle of it. Ill probably either pass or look at moving my five lines to AT&T. The SGS III has the feature, why screw with it.

 

[leroybrute]

Son of a bish! Well now I don't know what to do. It's not that it's a feature that makes of breaks the phone but when I take the sum o things VZW has done with this phone from delayed launch, logo on home button, locked bootloader, and now this, I just can't bring myself to support that by buying it. It's the principle of it. Ill probably either pass or look at moving my five lines to AT&T. The SGS III has the feature, why screw with it.

Verizon had nothing to do with doing away with the continuous scroll. I am betting it has something to do with JB or altered UI. I don't know but if I were to guess all carriers probably have no continuous scroll. Hopefully they will add it to a future update.