Do you think we will get the OTA update soon?

[LabRat]

Does anyone know for sure if having the leaked 4.0.4 on your phone will prevent the official OTA update from installing?

 

[JustinTiburon#AC]

OTA's suck who needs them?

 

[LBTRS]

who cares? root and load a custom rom.

It is amazing how many people recommend loading unapproved software, which voids your warranty, as an excuse for the problems and slow resolution by Google and Verizon. No one should have to take such steps to have a functional phone that they paid $700 for.

 

[dmmarck]

It is amazing how many people recommend loading unapproved software, which voids your warranty, as an excuse for the problems and slow resolution by Google and Verizon.

This again?

 

[Droid800]

The problem with that is the updates still have to go through QA testing from verizon because they use Verizon's radios, so it's not like Google can directly push the update (as they should be able to) OTA like Microsoft pushes updates to PCs. QA through Verizon takes time, and ultimately we would still be waiting forever for updates.

Plus These are cell phones and because of that they NEED to be 100 percent certain they will work as intended when it comes to an emergency.

These updates do not go through verizon QA.

 

[LBTRS]

This again?

The thread is about "this again" and you feel the need to say that to my post? Why is it only you that can have an opinion and state it? What you're saying in this thread is the same you say in all of them so why is it just me with "this again"?

 

[Paul627g]

Lets keep comments pointed in the right direction

Thank you.

 

[yosteve]

While I love that idea in theory, it could present so many little issues that I can understanding holding out for a "big" update.

The problem with that is the updates still have to go through QA testing from verizon because they use Verizon's radios, so it's not like Google can directly push the update (as they should be able to) OTA like Microsoft pushes updates to PCs. QA through Verizon takes time, and ultimately we would still be waiting forever for updates.

Plus These are cell phones and because of that they NEED to be 100 percent certain they will work as intended when it comes to an emergency.

Isn't this another type of question that is asked each time a thread like this is started? As far as attempting to follow the Microsoft model. There is one huge difference that comes to mind on that one. Microsoft doesn't use a single phone companies network to transfer their updates. Where with these updates, the phone company's network is being used.

I also find some of these threads to include some of the unrealistic and often times unreasonable demands that are similar to what we saw while waiting for the phone to be released. There is a difference between rumors and an actual announcement made by Google regarding a release of an update. I doubt that a VZW employee is going to be privy to Googles development and release schedule, especially for an update like this.

Let's all look at history shall we.

Android 1.0 - Sept 23, 2008
Android 1.1 - Feb 9, 2009
Android 1.5 - April 30, 2009
Android 1.6 - Sept 15, 2009
Android 2.0 - Oct 26, 2009
Android 2.0.1 - Dec 3, 2009
Android 2.1 - Jan 12, 2010
Android 2.2 - May 20, 2010
Android 2.3 - Dec 6, 2010
Android 2.3.3 Feb 9, 2011
Android 2.3.4 Apr 28, 2011
Android 2.3.5 Jul 25, 2011
Android 2.3.6 Sept 2, 2011
Android 2.3.7 Oct 10, 2011
Android 3.0 Feb 22, 2011
Android 3.1 May 10, 2011
Android 3.2 Jul 15, 2011
Android 3.2.1 Sept 20, 2011
Android 3.2.2 Aug 30, 2011
Android 4 Oct 19, 2011

As much as i'd love to believe all these comments, historically I fail to see how 'difficult' it is for updates to roll through (and these were on non nexus phones). Perhaps yes, the updates can come faster than the service provider can send these through but a lot of the little updates were done in a regular timely manner.

I mean look at the time it took for the GNex to hit US shores from when ics was released.

Are you guys kidding me on these excuses about how difficult a new version is released?

Take for example
Android 2.3.6 Sept 2, 2011
It fixed a voicemail bug. There was a wifi bug and they fixed it later that month.
The following month they released
Android 2.3.7 Oct 10, 2011
To introduce Google wallet to the Nexus S ironically something we don't have. So they had a bug, released a fix, then found another bug and released another 2 weeks later fix, then they introduced wallet another few weeks later.

Read the whole friggin timeline, it's not a "theory" it's not "wishful thinking", they have the ability and Verizon is probably the culprit, but don't talk about timelines like because this is new it's extra slow is a valid excuse cause it's not. I'd be more willing to accept the it's more difficult excuse over that.

We all really don't know and will not know what's holding stuff up, but it is clear that their once fairly steady flow of releases and updates, not to mention the release flub isn't very people friendly.

 

[LBTRS]

Let's all look at history shall we.

Very well thought out post!

 

[JustinTiburon#AC]

It is amazing how many people recommend loading unapproved software, which voids your warranty, as an excuse for the problems and slow resolution by Google and Verizon. No one should have to take such steps to have a functional phone that they paid $700 for.

Yeah, cause its so hard to flash your phone back to stock. It's a proven fact that the "unapproved software" make the phone what verizon can't make it to be. In the time that i've had verizon I had more problems with my devices before I was rooted/flashing roms than I was stock, yet they still didn't seem to fix the problems. Thus why I root cause they fix themselves.

 

[GNex Girl]

It is amazing how many people recommend loading unapproved software

I thought that was the whole point of buying a Nexus device? *shrugs*

 

[chubb]

Yeah, cause its so hard to flash your phone back to stock. It's a proven fact that the "unapproved software" make the phone what verizon can't make it to be. In the time that i've had verizon I had more problems with my devices before I was rooted/flashing roms than I was stock, yet they still didn't seem to fix the problems. Thus why I root cause they fix themselves.

Well you seen to forget not everybody can root. Some can't for business and some can't because they just can't grasp doing it. And being proven on forums running unofficial roms are a improvement, try explain that to a wireless executive who will deny help via cs and manufacturers thru warranty claims. If want their help and warrenties you gotta play their game.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

 

[Paul627g]

Nexus devices have since day one been marketed as AOSP or Pure Google experience. Basically... Pure vanilla OS and little or no bloat by manufacture or carrier.

Has nothing to do with being able to install unauthorized/unapproved OS software.

Hey by the way does anyone know when the OTA is coming?

 

[chubb]

I thought that was the whole point of buying a Nexus device? *shrugs*

I bought a nexus for two reasons. Faster updates and vanilla android with vzw lte speed. I grew tired of rooting and flashing roms every week/month. Been doing it with the G1, G2, Droid 2, and my thunderbolt. Don't want bloat and don't want skins. That's why I bought a nexus and waiting patiently for the ota.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

 

[JustinTiburon#AC]

Well you seen to forget not everybody can root. Some can't for business and some can't because they just can't grasp doing it. And being proven on forums running unofficial roms are a improvement, try explain that to a wireless executive who will deny help via cs and manufacturers thru warranty claims. If want their help and warrenties you gotta play their game.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

I don't sit and complain about problems since I've rooted and flashed roms. If it is a company phone you shouldn't be complaining about anything and should be used for work only. So I don't see the big issue here.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Blue Tapatalk

 

[Davidoo]

I bought a nexus for two reasons. Faster updates and vanilla android with vzw lte speed. I grew tired of rooting and flashing roms every week/month. Been doing it with the G1, G2, Droid 2, and my thunderbolt. Don't want bloat and don't want skins. That's why I bought a nexus and waiting patiently for the ota.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Same for me. I wanted a device without the bloat with the newest OS, but it has to work as a phone too. I am over 50 and work 60 to 70 hours a week, so I don't have time to sit around at Starbucks or in my basement working with Odin and trying different ROMs each day trying to get the darn thing to work.

I had the Gnex for 4 hours and took it right back (have a person at my store I work with and have bought many phones from, talked her into letting me try it and not incur the restocking fee). I took a chance because I am one of those who has to have the latest, so I brought it home and no 4G reception anywhere near my house. Long periods with no data at all. Not going through that again. My Charge gets 4G all over my neighborhood and NEVER drops calls or loses at least 3G. This was not so with the Charge before the Gingerbread update, so I'm hoping the update does the same thing for the Gnex and I'll be trying another one then.

 

[Andrew Martonik]

I thought that was the whole point of buying a Nexus device? *shrugs*

The whole point is having the freedom to choose which way you want to go...

 

[chubb]

I don't sit and complain about problems since I've rooted and flashed roms. If it is a company phone you shouldn't be complaining about anything and should be used for work only. So I don't see the big issue here.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Blue Tapatalk

I don't complain. I'm completely stock. Running 4.0.2 locked boot loader and all that. Haven't had any signal issues or mic issues. I got a good batch I guess. Just saying I could unlock and rom away but am tired of doing that. Only reason i rooted and flashed before is to rid bloatware and run a aosp rom if possible. Thats why i got a nexus, vabilla out the box. Plus everyone forgets that some people have company phones and can't just root and rom away either.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

 

[dcastillo]

I dont root cause im a recovering flash-o-holic...
it all started back with my HTC touch diamond ... got to the point where i literally would flash a new ROM a few times a day just to see how they all worked...

carried into the Android phones until I got my incredible and then had to stop... no time with two young kids...

a few months ago I was having issues on my thunderbolt with the battery. so i told my self to root it ONLY to wipe the battery stats.... yeah right, I didnt get to bed till after 2am that night.... I just cant help myself... I should get therapy

 

[Droid800]

Let's all look at history shall we.

Android 1.0 - Sept 23, 2008
Android 1.1 - Feb 9, 2009
Android 1.5 - April 30, 2009
Android 1.6 - Sept 15, 2009
Android 2.0 - Oct 26, 2009
Android 2.0.1 - Dec 3, 2009
Android 2.1 - Jan 12, 2010
Android 2.2 - May 20, 2010
Android 2.3 - Dec 6, 2010
Android 2.3.3 Feb 9, 2011
Android 2.3.4 Apr 28, 2011
Android 2.3.5 Jul 25, 2011
Android 2.3.6 Sept 2, 2011
Android 2.3.7 Oct 10, 2011
Android 3.0 Feb 22, 2011
Android 3.1 May 10, 2011
Android 3.2 Jul 15, 2011
Android 3.2.1 Sept 20, 2011
Android 3.2.2 Aug 30, 2011
Android 4 Oct 19, 2011

As much as i'd love to believe all these comments, historically I fail to see how 'difficult' it is for updates to roll through (and these were on non nexus phones). Perhaps yes, the updates can come faster than the service provider can send these through but a lot of the little updates were done in a regular timely manner.

I mean look at the time it took for the GNex to hit US shores from when ics was released.

Are you guys kidding me on these excuses about how difficult a new version is released?

Take for example
Android 2.3.6 Sept 2, 2011
It fixed a voicemail bug. There was a wifi bug and they fixed it later that month.
The following month they released
Android 2.3.7 Oct 10, 2011
To introduce Google wallet to the Nexus S ironically something we don't have. So they had a bug, released a fix, then found another bug and released another 2 weeks later fix, then they introduced wallet another few weeks later.

Read the whole friggin timeline, it's not a "theory" it's not "wishful thinking", they have the ability and Verizon is probably the culprit, but don't talk about timelines like because this is new it's extra slow is a valid excuse cause it's not. I'd be more willing to accept the it's more difficult excuse over that.

We all really don't know and will not know what's holding stuff up, but it is clear that their once fairly steady flow of releases and updates, not to mention the release flub isn't very people friendly.

Verizon does not do QA on OS updates for the Nexus. They may for the radios, but nowhere near to the extent of their branded, bloated handsets.

There's also one huge flaw in comparing this to the gingerbread updates you cited: we KNOW for a fact that there are some pretty substantial fixes and additions coming, so this is no minor update like adding wallet, or fixing a voicemail bug.

The closest analog I can find in that list is 2.1 to 2.2, and that update took 4 months to come.