Droid Turbo: Lollipop software update?

[KPMcClave]

And like I said in the last sentence you quoted, what's the point of having a completely different model if it's only purpose is to upsell? You don't have to upsell anything if there's only one model.

My only point originally was to point out that there is a difference between releasing a redundant phone at the same time (to upsell) as the phone to which it is similar, and doing that six-seven months later (or more).

You brought up the Droid Ultra as a prior example of Moto releasing a redundant phone, and that suggests they might release a rumored phablet too similar to the Nexus 6. My point is the situations are different precisely because of the timing of releases.

 

[rlmesq]

This thread is beginning to remind me of a cargo cult, the Pacific islanders who tried to lure back cargo planes after the end of WWII.

 

[vzwuser76]

My only point originally was to point out that there is a difference between releasing a redundant phone at the same time (to upsell) as the phone to which it is similar, and doing that six-seven months later (or more).

You brought up the Droid Ultra as a prior example of Moto releasing a redundant phone, and that suggests they might release a rumored phablet too similar to the Nexus 6. My point is the situations are different precisely because of the timing of releases.

The Nexus 6 wasn't officially released until March 12th, so it's just over a month now after it was released. And there would be a difference between the features on the Nexus and a Droid branded phablet, mainly Moto apps like Display, Voice, Assist, twist for camera, etc. You can probably find similar apps that may allow that function on a Nexus 6, but the operation won't be as seamless as it would be on a straight Motorola or Droid phone. The Ultra and the Maxx had identical software, only battery and case were different.

 

[doogald]

I do think it's a bit ridiculous to make guesses about the Droid Ultra and Maxx on a thread in the turbo forum about getting Lollipop, but here goes:

I don't think the ultra was redundant because of the Maxx. Remember that Verizon sold thin and Maxx versions of the Razr and Razr HD for two years. The ultra was thinner and $100 cheaper than the Maxx - there can always be a market for that, for people unwilling to put down $300 on a new, heavy phone when they don't need it.

What killed the ultra was something that didn't exist when the Razr and Razr HD came out - the Moto X. It was smaller than the ultra with the same battery life, same price, much better looking, and ultimately got better upgrade support and customization (after a few months) from Motorola. By that time I'm sure it was clear to Verizon that they couldn't generate a market for a thinner phone when the turbo came out and it was probably better just to carry a single device in a few colors.

But, really, is it necessary to talk about the Maxx, ultra, X, or nexus 6 in this thread?

 

[bpe4]

Hey. Thanks for that input. The "mess" as you refer to, can you elaborate with specifics?

Since I am an IT guy, that's liking someone telling me, "hey IT guy, my computer doesn't work, its a mess."

Here's my primary issue with the new notification system. I'll quote from a Computerworld article:

"Lollipop's new notification system is plenty powerful, but it's lacking one fundamental option: a simple way to set your phone to silent.

In past versions of Android, you could either just lower a device's volume all the way down or long-press the power button and use the direct shortcut there to activate silent mode. On Lollipop, lowering the volume all the way on a phone gets you to a vibrate-only state -- but there's no way to move from that to silent. And the power button shortcut is no longer present at all.

Instead, you have to first press your device's volume-up or volume-down key and then select the new "None" notifications setting -- which isn't at all intuitive and is going to confuse the hell out of most ordinary users. And on top of that, the "None" notifications setting prohibits even alarms from sounding, while a traditional silent mode does not.

The only other option you have is to configure Lollipop's "Priority" notifications setting so that it'll allow alarms to sound but nothing else. That's an awful lot of work for something that should be so simple, though -- and again, it's something most ordinary users aren't going to figure out."

 

[vzwuser76]

I do think it's a bit ridiculous to make guesses about the Droid Ultra and Maxx on a thread in the turbo forum about getting Lollipop, but here goes:

I don't think the ultra was redundant because of the Maxx. Remember that Verizon sold thin and Maxx versions of the Razr and Razr HD for two years. The ultra was thinner and $100 cheaper than the Maxx - there can always be a market for that, for people unwilling to put down $300 on a new, heavy phone when they don't need it.

What killed the ultra was something that didn't exist when the Razr and Razr HD came out - the Moto X. It was smaller than the ultra with the same battery life, same price, much better looking, and ultimately got better upgrade support and customization (after a few months) from Motorola. By that time I'm sure it was clear to Verizon that they couldn't generate a market for a thinner phone when the turbo came out and it was probably better just to carry a single device in a few colors.

But, really, is it necessary to talk about the Maxx, ultra, X, or nexus 6 in this thread?

I simply theorized that maybe the reason we haven't seen LP for the Turbo was because of the rumored Droid phablet that was supposed to come out in the first half of this year, and that maybe they were waiting to update the Turbo until that released. That's how it started. I didn't plan on getting into a convo on why a Droid phablet was necessary or not. Sorry.

 

[KPMcClave]

I simply theorized that maybe the reason we haven't seen LP for the Turbo was because of the rumored Droid phablet that was supposed to come out in the first half of this year, and that maybe they were waiting to update the Turbo until that released. That's how it started. I didn't plan on getting into a convo on why a Droid phablet was necessary or not. Sorry.

The conversation wasn't about whether a phablet was necessary or not. The original response was specifically to your point here. Since it apparently hasn't been clear above, I disagree a phablet is why we're waiting.

 

[vzwuser76]

The conversation wasn't about whether a phablet was necessary or not. The original response was specifically to your point here. Since it apparently hasn't been clear above, I disagree a phablet is why we're waiting.

The last I heard about the Droid phablet was in March, it was supposed to be the same case as a Nexus 6, but with a SD 810 and 4GB of RAM. And like I said above, it would also include the same Moto apps as on the Turbo and X. So it isn't just a carbon copy of the Nexus. But either way, you don't agree so the point is moot.

 

[anon(9408097)]

This was today. I know this doesn't mean anything but still. Hope lives on!

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[MattRevs]

What's this "marshmallow" that people keep talking about? And what about it makes it worth waiting for?

Posted from my Droid Turbo, Kelly and Ozone

In my last post I mentioned Android 5.2 Marshmallow to make my comment have irony. I don't think Google has even started on Android M, but assuming they stick with their sweet names, "marshmallow" was the first thing that came to my mind.

Sent via Droid Turbo

 

[TJ Kelly Jr]

This was today. I know this doesn't mean anything but still. Hope lives on!

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I wish they would just give some kind of time frame!!!

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[KSDroid01]

This was today. I know this doesn't mean anything but still. Hope lives on!

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I can't read or open the thumbnail, can you summarize?

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[teeitupmo#WN]

It's just a tweet from Motorola Mobility, indicating the Droid Turbo will get Lollipop and they are working with Verizon closely.


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[Rob_B]

It's just a tweet from Motorola Mobility, indicating the Droid Turbo will get Lollipop and they are working with Verizon closely.


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Yeah sure....
Verizon made the conscious decision to have the Turbo made where it rely on AC to function simultaneously (voice/data) on is crap LTE network. We are the ones paying for that choice. (Verizon's on AC support says that most other LTE capable phones can accomplish simultaneous voice & data and if the get an AC update those devices will be able to experience HD calls) The only real difference is our device has no fallback solution or handoff capabilities. Until Verizon fixes the shortcomings of the fabulous LTE coverage we'll be using a 1990's flagship unless all the stars & planets align, you face the Northstar while hopping on your left leg, holding the phone perpendicular to the ground, 37 seconds after a FDR

 

[TurboHope]

The turbo is starting to really frustrate me, the A/C function is awful, sounds like I'm talking through a paper bag while jogging in the rain. The update is no where to be seen. Lesser phones of the same brand are receiving updates first. Still loving the phone's speed and size, though the design is a bit utilitarian for my normal taste. 6 months isn't a very long time, but with no launch date available, it seems like an eternity!

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[doogald]

Yeah sure....
Verizon made the conscious decision to have the Turbo made where it rely on AC to function simultaneously (voice/data) on is crap LTE network. We are the ones paying for that choice. (Verizon's on AC support says that most other LTE capable phones can accomplish simultaneous voice & data and if the get an AC update those devices will be able to experience HD calls) The only real difference is our device has no fallback solution or handoff capabilities. Until Verizon fixes the shortcomings of the fabulous LTE coverage we'll be using a 1990's flagship unless all the stars & planets align, you face the Northstar while hopping on your left leg, holding the phone perpendicular to the ground, 37 seconds after a FDR

Everybody has 14 days to return a phone after they buy it. It seems that you should have done that.

 

[cooper_m22]

Everybody has 14 days to return a phone after they buy it. It seems that you should have done that.

OK that works for some but what about people like me that got the phone back when it first came out and was told by a sales rep at the Verizon store that the Droid turbo will be the first to receive lollipop because it is a Verizon exclusive.

 

[doogald]

OK that works for some but what about people like me that got the phone back when it first came out and was told by a sales rep at the Verizon store that the Droid turbo will be the first to receive lollipop because it is a Verizon exclusive.

Caveat emptor.

People should never believe the promises of a salesman. If they come true, great; but, you should buy phone based on what it can do the day you buy it. If Lollipop was critical to you, you should have waited until phone was sold with Lollipop on it.

If you had asked if that salesman was telling the truth in this forum during the 14 day return period, many of us would have told you that the sales rep was full of it. Well now you know that he was, too.

 

[Davidoo]

The turbo is starting to really frustrate me, the A/C function is awful, sounds like I'm talking through a paper bag while jogging in the rain. The update is no where to be seen. Lesser phones of the same brand are receiving updates first. Still loving the phone's speed and size, though the design is a bit utilitarian for my normal taste. 6 months isn't a very long time, but with no launch date available, it seems like an eternity!

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I am also frustrated by the slow updates mainly because I just like to have the latest thing. But, I must say that I still love the Turbo. Maybe I'm lucky or it has something to do with some just getting a lemon, or possibly where you use the phone, but I turned on the AC function the day it was available and have never dropped one call and voice quality is high. I was really impressed last weekend when I drove from Phoenix to Sedona through some mountainous areas and tried some calls that worked perfectly. I looked at the galaxy S6 forums and see some of the same complaints we usually see when a new device comes out such as people don't think the reception is as good as their prior devices, the camera is poor, and some were saying they can't do voice and data at the same time so I guess the S6 also has to use AC to get this done. I really think there is some luck involved with some of these devices as quality control must be lacking. I've had none of the issues I see others complain about, including no Wi-Fi problems. I was not so lucky a few years ago when I had a Samsung Droid Charge and it seemed I had every single bad issue.

 

[1Coopgt]

Caveat emptor.

People should never believe the promises of a salesman. If they come true, great; but, you should buy phone based on what it can do the day you buy it. If Lollipop was critical to you, you should have waited until phone was sold with Lollipop on it.

If you had asked if that salesman was telling the truth in this forum during the 14 day return period, many of us would have told you that the sales rep was full of it. Well now you know that he was, too.

+100

Totally agree . At least most of the whining is confined to this thread . If people are that unhappy with your phone sell it and get something else .