doogald
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You already have Trusted Bluetooth.
And encryption (though the only way to decrypt is to factory reset.)
I would love an OS-level trusted places, though.
You already have Trusted Bluetooth.
Upgradeable doesn't mean out of the box upgradeable, it just means that the phone has the hardware to be able to upgrade, and it is.
No reviewer has ever said that Motorola or Verizon stated that the LP update would come by the end of 2014. They said the AC update would come by then and as others have stated, it did. Neither Motorola nor Verizon have ever given a timeline for the update. The ONLY things we've heard from them regarding the update was that 1. It would be upgraded to LP, and 2. That it would skip the 5.0 builds and go directly to 5.1. That's it, no timeline or any hard date. If a reviewer said anything about a time line it was either their supposition, or if they explicitly gave a timeframe and said it as a fact, THEY were the ones lying. They don't speak for Verizon or Motorola, Verizon and Motorola do. They haven't given any info on a possible release date in commercials, press releases, or social media.
Besides all that, is that really worth taking it to court over? If you have buyer's remorse, sell it and get a different phone. I'd bet money, once it actually drops, people will either be non plussed by it, or they'll be angry that it screwed up their phone or they don't like the features that aren't there anymore in LP. It happens with every update, everyone makes a huge deal about they have to have it now, and then when they do get it they're either ambivalent or angry.
To be clear, I think it'd be a huge waste of time going to court over the update. I'm not asking if we can take them to court. In past similar cases I don't think iv'e ever seen more than $10 awarded to users, and it took years.
I'm asking for something of real value. I'm asking if anyone has attempted to get an early upgrade to another phone due to the lack of updates. That's what I meant when I said 'breach of contract'.
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So I'm guessing that trusted places, trusted devices and encryption, just overall better security just doesn't interest you. Yea me either, give me wallpaper with my 5 month old Lollipop.
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Anybody ever wonder if it has to do with Verizon's request vs payment? They'd pay twice to go from 5.0 to 5.1. My assumption is that they're balancing the maturity of Android's OS release with how much they want to pay Motorola for those software updates.
Motorola shouldn't provide updates until they receive payment for services. At least that's my presumption. If the droid turbo was a big seller I'd think Verizon is more likely to invest in it.
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I was originally going off memory.
The best I can do right now is this:
A New DROID Experience Arrives in 48 Hours
It states "Upgradable to Android 5.0 Lollipop"
The argument that this just means that hardware is capable of handling lollipop is false. . To be upgradable, the user has to be given the ability to upgrade it.
By that argument, My Lenovo laptop could advertise "upgradable to OSX Yosemite". I don't think that'd fly.
I was originally going off memory.
The best I can do right now is this:
A New DROID Experience Arrives in 48 Hours
It states "Upgradable to Android 5.0 Lollipop"
The argument that this just means that hardware is capable of handling lollipop is false. . To be upgradable, the user has to be given the ability to upgrade it.
By that argument, My Lenovo laptop could advertise "upgradable to OSX Yosemite". I don't think that'd fly.
To be clear, I think it'd be a huge waste of time going to court over the update. I'm not asking if we can take them to court. In past similar cases I don't think iv'e ever seen more than $10 awarded to users, and it took years.
I'm asking for something of real value. I'm asking if anyone has attempted to get an early upgrade to another phone due to the lack of updates. That's what I meant when I said 'breach of contract'.
And like I said, they're not going to that. The only reason they would even allow you to go to another device after having three bad devices of the same model is because of lemon laws. Do you think Verizon's just going to start handing out $600 phones? You can try all you want, but of all of the carriers, I'd say you'd have the least luck with Verizon.
It is false? What does upgradeable mean? Able to upgrade. There are plenty of times when new phones are released and they say upgradeable to incoming OS version. It just means that the hardware is compatible and there are plans to upgrade to the upcoming OS, when the update is made available by the OEM and the carrier approves it. As far as the customer being able to upgrade it, for the most part, the customer doesn't upgrade, an over the air (OTA) update is pushed to the customer's device. The only instances where a customer initiates the update is rooting or doing an RUU update or through something like Kies with Samsung.
We're not talking about updating the Turbo to iOS, we're talking about upgrading the device to the newest OS version for Android. Have you ever seen a Lenovo or any other Windows OEM say their Windows 7 PC was upgradeable to Windows 8? Or a Windows 8 machine that will be upgeadeable to Windows 10? They do that all the time, the only difference is on home computers, many times the customer does initiate the update (unless they have automatic updates enabled).
IYou buy an Xbox 4, which is marketed as 'games are playable' or 'able to play games'.. you get home you power it up, pop in a game, and you get a popup that says 'unable to play games until we upgrade the system'. You wait 6 months, and still no upgrade.. Do you consider this console 'able to play games' or do you consider the original statement false?
ANY android phone's hardware is technically compatible with Lollipop with enough tweeks and disregard for performance. If I post a HTC G1 on Ebay and list 'upgradable to 5.0 lollipop' do you consider that correct information?
If it is 'able to upgrade' then go do it..
You can't? Then the phone is not 'able to upgrade' then, is it? its locked down, purposely made unable to upgrade at this time and for the foreseeable future.
Lets look at a more extreme case..
You buy an Xbox 4, which is marketed as 'games are playable' or 'able to play games'.. you get home you power it up, pop in a game, and you get a popup that says 'unable to play games until we upgrade the system'. You wait 6 months, and still no upgrade.. Do you consider this console 'able to play games' or do you consider the original statement false?
The phone is not upgradable to Lollipop until verizon/motorolla releases an upgrade to lollipop. At this time it is Unupgradable.
ANY android phone's hardware is technically compatible with Lollipop with enough tweeks and disregard for performance. If I post a HTC G1 on Ebay and list 'upgradable to 5.0 lollipop' do you consider that correct information?
Ya'll realize there are over 1000 posts on something no one on this forum can control, influence, are make happen faster?
If it is 'able to upgrade' then go do it..
You can't? Then the phone is not 'able to upgrade' then, is it? its locked down, purposely made unable to upgrade at this time and for the foreseeable future.
Lets look at a more extreme case..
You buy an Xbox 4, which is marketed as 'games are playable' or 'able to play games'.. you get home you power it up, pop in a game, and you get a popup that says 'unable to play games until we upgrade the system'. You wait 6 months, and still no upgrade.. Do you consider this console 'able to play games' or do you consider the original statement false?
The phone is not upgradable to Lollipop until verizon/motorolla releases an upgrade to lollipop. At this time it is Unupgradable.
ANY android phone's hardware is technically compatible with Lollipop with enough tweeks and disregard for performance. If I post a HTC G1 on Ebay and list 'upgradable to 5.0 lollipop' do you consider that correct information?
Ya'll realize there are over 1000 posts on something no one on this forum can control, influence, are make happen faster?
Wow, people get worked up over some really insignificant things.
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