Editorial: Galaxy S5 Already Obsolete

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One more time, the 5s outsold the S5 in May in BOTH THE UK AND THE USA.
Therefore...what? I have no idea what your point is supposed to be. Who made the claim that this was not true?

Which makes it even worse for the S5. A brand spanking 2014 flagship phone outsold by a phone with 2010 technology.
LOL...at least you're not denyoing it is outdated technology. We're making progress.
 
Therefore...what? I have no idea what your point is supposed to be. Who made the claim that this was not true?

Therefore your claim that the S5 was only outsold by the S4 is NOT CORRECT. That is what you said in the post that I responded to. You made the claim that the S5 was only lower in sales relative to the S4.

These are your words:

"The S5 is clearly not selling badly. The "disappointing sales" are only relative to another samsung product."


LOL...at least you're not denyoing it is outdated technology. We're making progress.

Outdated or not, the iPhone 5s and the iPhone 5c outsold the S5 in the US and Britain respectively in the first full month that the S5 was introduced. If that is not the definition of poor sales, then I do not know what is.

You said that the S5 was only outsold by the S4. That is Wrong. That is the point of my response.



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Therefore your claim that the S5 was only outsold by the S4 is NOT CORRECT.
Um...when did I make that claim? Quote please.

That is what you said in the post that I responded to. You made the claim that the S5 was only lower in sales relative to the S4.
According to the source I posted, it was. So?

Outdated or not, the iPhone 5s and the iPhone 5c outsold the S5 in the US and Britain respectively in the first full month that the S5 was introduced. If that is not the definition of poor sales, then I do not know what is.
We are in agreement that you do not know what the definition of "poor sales" is.
 
Um...when did I make that claim? Quote please.

"This is a classic example of exaggeration. The S5 is clearly not selling badly. The "disappointing sales" are only relative to another samsung product. Not sure how that = "obsolete". Not that anyone has bothered to define what Obsolete means in this context anyway. It has industry-leading specs...far in excess of any comparable phones (sales-wise). Including (and maybe especially) iPhones."

That is your post taken from this thread in post #32. You clearly said that the disappointing sales are ONLY relative to another Samsung product.

These are your words. And they are incorrect words. False statements. The disappointing sales are not only relative to another Samsung product but also relative to the iPhone 5s and the iPhone 5c.

According to the source I posted, it was. So?

You did not post a source in the reply. You used your own words. I gave you the direct quote above. There is no link in the post. You made the false claim that the S5 is only has disappointing sales relative to the S4. That is a FALSE claim. The evidence shows that the disappointing sales are also relative to the iPhone 5s.

We are in agreement that you do not know what the definition of "poor sales" is.

No we are not. Whenever you get caught making false claims you want to shift the debate to something else. In this case the definition of poor sales.

Call it what you want, but here is the FACT: the brand new 2014 flagship phone from Samsung was outsold by the 2013 iPhone 5s in the US and the UK.



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That is your post taken from this thread in post #32.
What link was I talking about in that quote? Uh huh...

These are your words. And they are incorrect words.
If you completely ignore what I actually said, then I agree they are incorrect.

You did not post a source in the reply.
Yes, Post #27 had no links in it at all. I don't know what I was thinking.

No we are not. Whenever you get caught making false claims you want to shift the debate to something else. In this case the definition of poor sales.
So what do you consider to be poor sales? You tell me.

Call it what you want, but here is the FACT: the brand new 2014 flagship phone from Samsung was outsold by the 2013 iPhone 5s in the US and the UK.
Another Fact: Samsung sold more smartphones in 2013 than Apple did. Most people who had a choice refused to buy Apple over Samsung.

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This non-sequitur game is fun.
 
Another Fact: Samsung sold more smartphones in 2013 than Apple did. Most people who had a choice refused to buy Apple over Samsung.

Worldwide Smartphone Shipments Top One Billion Units for the First Time, According to IDC - prUS24645514

This non-sequitur game is fun.

Don't change the subject. Rather admit that what you typed (that the S5 had lower sales ONLY relative to another Samsung product) was a fabrication of your own. Admit that you made it up.

Clearly what you said was no true. The facts show that the 2013 iPhone 5s outsold the brand new S5 in the US and the UK in May.

Can you admit that you were wrong Jeff?


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LOL, touched a nerve I guess.


I disagree. But anyone who thinks otherwise can go back and look for themselves.
You said that the S5 had disappointing sales ONLY relative to the S4.

That is patently false. You basically made it up. Data shows that the iphone 5s outsold the S5 in the month of may.

So it is clear that the S5 sales are also disappointing relative to the iphone 5s and not ONLY relative to the S4.

You basically were caught making things up. And when I called you out, you started to change the subject to meaning if words and how Samsung phones outsell iphone phones. That was not the debate.

Be a man and admit that you fibbed and were caught.
 
You said that the S5 had disappointing sales ONLY relative to the S4.

That is patently false. You basically made it up. Data shows that the iphone 5s outsold the S5 in the month of may.

So it is clear that the S5 sales are also disappointing relative to the iphone 5s and not ONLY relative to the S4.

You basically were caught making things up. And when I called you out, you started to change the subject to meaning if words and how Samsung phones outsell iphone phones. That was not the debate.

Be a man and admit that you fibbed and were caught.

Who cares? Either way you slice it the S5 and iPhone 5S alone sell the most anywhere and of course the iPhone 5S sells more than the S5. I don't know how he any less of a man, when he didn't even lie in the first place.

Also, define disappointing, because the S5 sells millions regardless, and news flash the smartphone market is saturated on the high end, the S5 ain't going to sell like previous models, there is less reason to upgrade as phones last 2 years+ nowadays.

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Another Fact: Samsung sold more smartphones in 2013 than Apple did. Most people who had a choice refused to buy Apple over Samsung.

Not in the high-end market. Apple has a stranglehold on that, and concedes the low-end market to others.
 
Why did you make this about Apple vs Samsung.

He is absolutely obsessed with Apple. I don't believe that he could go a day without typing Apple's name in a post. It may be an inferiority complex, and he is constantly trying to justify his use of Android and not Apple.
 
I can remember when Apple people thought iPhone Marketshare dominance was a foregone conclusion as well. Then they thought the same thing with the iPad. Lots of apple predictions have turned out to be wrong.
 
I can remember when Apple people thought iPhone Marketshare dominance was a foregone conclusion as well. Then they thought the same thing with the iPad. Lots of apple predictions have turned out to be wrong.

iPhone has never dominated marketshare.


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