Firefox OS has a better chance than WP8

[Ry]

To be clear I'm talking about smartphones. I don't know why features phone are even brought up all of these os are targeted for only smartphones.

Looking at how Mozilla is positioning (price, carrier-customization pitches) Firefox OS, to me it feels like they're going after the feature phone market. They'll be competing with devices like Nokia's Asha series, making "feature" phones very relevant to the conversation IMO.

Are you seriously calling this a feat. They went from having 28% to 1% and are now at 3%. And the only reason they overtook BB is because BB went into hiatus for a year. We'll see what the number are at the end if this year mon that BB has several flagship phones.

Yes. Jumping from 1% to 3% (when iOS and Android hold about 90%) is a success. And it shows growth.

Do you expect Firefox OS to get to a 3% marketshare? Microsoft and Nokia may have not had as much success as of late, but they're still around and are still very strong brands. Firefox OS, Ubuntu Mobile will remain extremely niche.

Firefox OS will not will Windows Phone.

 

[_X_]

Looking at how Mozilla is positioning (price, carrier-customization pitches) Firefox OS, to me it feels like they're going after the feature phone market. They'll be competing with devices like Nokia's Asha series, making "feature" phones very relevant to the conversation IMO.

That is an invalid assumption. What FireFoxOS is positioning itself for is the low end Smartphone market in emerging markets, though I'm sure it can be targeted as a feature phone as well.

Here is the latest FireFoxOS phone
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Yes. Jumping from 1% to 3% (when iOS and Android hold about 90%) is a success. And it shows growth.

Do you expect Firefox OS to get to a 3% marketshare? Microsoft and Nokia may have not had as much success as of late, but they're still around and are still very strong brands. Firefox OS, Ubuntu Mobile will remain extremely niche..

I don't have a crystal ball but FireFoxOS does have support, more than MS. Though I do agree with you just the two giants MS/Nokia is enough to compete with all of these smaller vendors.

" ZTE, Alcatel also has a Firefox OS phone (One Touch Fire), with few other companies ? including LG, Huawei, Foxconn and Sony ? also promising to launch smartphones powered by Mozilla?s mobile platform. Plus, let?s not forget Geeksphone which is already selling two different Firefox OS devices, Keon and Peak."

 

[JHBThree]

That is an invalid assumption. What FireFoxOS is positioning itself for is the low end Smartphone market in emerging markets, though I'm sure it can be targeted as a feature phone as well.

Here is the latest FireFoxOS phone
ZTE Open




I don't have a crystal ball but FireFoxOS does have support, more than MS. Though I do agree with you just the two giants MS/Nokia is enough to compete with all of these smaller vendors.

" ZTE, Alcatel also has a Firefox OS phone (One Touch Fire), with few other companies ? including LG, Huawei, Foxconn and Sony ? also promising to launch smartphones powered by Mozilla?s mobile platform. Plus, let?s not forget Geeksphone which is already selling two different Firefox OS devices, Keon and Peak."

Hey what do you know, every one of those manufacturers makes windows phones too. I guarantee that they're getting more marketing support from Microsoft.

I'm sorry, but Firefox os won't be what you think it will. We're talking about a company that has zero experience in this area, going up against companies that have the money and expertise Mozilla could only imagine. To say that they have an impossible task in front of them would be an understatement.

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[Ry]

I don't have a crystal ball but FireFoxOS does have support, more than MS. Though I do agree with you just the two giants MS/Nokia is enough to compete with all of these smaller vendors.

" ZTE, Alcatel also has a Firefox OS phone (One Touch Fire), with few other companies ? including LG, Huawei, Foxconn and Sony ? also promising to launch smartphones powered by Mozilla?s mobile platform. Plus, let?s not forget Geeksphone which is already selling two different Firefox OS devices, Keon and Peak."

Support from more OEMs. Probably. Maybe. But ZTE, Alcatel, LG, Huawei, Foxconn, and Sony aren't probably going to make as many Firefox phones as they are Android phones. Samsung, Nokia, and HTC are the big Windows Phone players right now but I believe your list has OEMs that have supported Windows Phone (not Mobile) recently.

Even still, I fully expect Nokia to crank out more Windows Phone devices than Foxconn's number of Firefox devices.

 

[a3uge]

wow I cant beleive people would actually think firefoxOS wont 1 up windows phone, 1 it has nothing to do with buying customers, 2 who cares if mozzilla only made browsers before, look at google before android... just sayin considering google chrome is built on firefox. on top of that firefoxOS has the advantage of being open source, mening it can be moded, and developed in any mannor devs like myself like and OEMs can customize it to there liking, much like android, plus its not rocket science to make or port apps especially from android considering the simmilarities in programing, as they are both essentially java script operating systems. if firefox gets enough development it will blow windows phone away... just my 2 cents

Google Chrome is built on Firefox? Both are built on Javascript? You're a developer?

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[gollum18]

You want my opinion, Microsoft is a big monetizing bully. They try to devour all the markets in the technology sector, and the mobile phone market is no exception. However the odds are greatly against them, really it's a struggling effort for them and they need to just drop out of it.

Their blowing money left and right and with only one major manufacturer willing to truly support them (nokia). They will remain floundering. Let alone the fact that upgrading your os to the next version requires buying an entirely new phone.

Celebrity endorsements are great and all but they only go so far, and they barely even have a development community.

Sprint GS3 Running TN's Msg and Chubbs

 

[JHBThree]

You want my opinion, Microsoft is a big monetizing bully. They try to devour all the markets in the technology sector, and the mobile phone market is no exception. However the odds are greatly against them, really it's a struggling effort for them and they need to just drop out of it.

The odds actually aren't against them. The odds are against Firefox os, tizen, and the like

Their blowing money left and right and with only one major manufacturer willing to truly support them (nokia). They will remain floundering. Let alone the fact that upgrading your os to the next version requires buying an entirely new phone.

Wrong. You do not need a new phone every time. The only reason going from 7 to 8 required a new phone was because the hardware standard for 7 was not enough to run 8. This was due entirely to the fact that 8 shares its core with windows 8.

Also, Samsung, HTC, huwawei, Alcatel, and a whole bunch of other manufacturers build windows phones. So, there's that...

Celebrity endorsements are great and all but they only go so far, and they barely even have a development community.

Sprint GS3 Running TN's Msg and Chubbs

Again, not true. They have quite a large development community. Certainly larger than either iOS or android at this stage of the platform. If you just comparing them by numbers, yes iOS and android are bigger. But they've also been around for twice as long, so the comparison doesn't mean much without that context.

 

[nia820]

You know people keep ignoring wp. But I have a feeling wp might be the next big thing.

 

[Alex trebek]

I almost got a windows phone, they are pretty nice. The only real problem I have with them is app selection. I might get a FoxOS as a second phone depending on the price

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[cckgz4]

You know people keep ignoring wp. But I have a feeling wp might be the next big thing.

Exactly. No matter how small the gain, you'd have to be PRESSED to deny this new attention windows phone is getting

Sent from my Lum...iPh...Gala...some phone

 

[Ry]

You want my opinion, Microsoft is a big monetizing bully. They try to devour all the markets in the technology sector, and the mobile phone market is no exception. However the odds are greatly against them, really it's a struggling effort for them and they need to just drop out of it.

Their blowing money left and right and with only one major manufacturer willing to truly support them (nokia). They will remain floundering. Let alone the fact that upgrading your os to the next version requires buying an entirely new phone.

Celebrity endorsements are great and all but they only go so far, and they barely even have a development community.

Sprint GS3 Running TN's Msg and Chubbs

Let's get thing one thing straight. The development community that matters is the one making apps and games. Not the ones "modifying" the OS, or making ROMs.

Who has more developers working on their platform between Windows Phone and Firefox OS?

 

[gollum18]

Let's get thing one thing straight. The development community that matters is the one making apps and games. Not the ones "modifying" the OS, or making ROMs.

Who has more developers working on their platform between Windows Phone and Firefox OS?

I know that Ry, I'm just stating my opinion. And it's generally those developers who modify the os that generate new ideas for newer versions of android.

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