haha... you don't think they can? You'd be surprised. You've given them total control of your connected device once signing your TOS.
FYI: Verizon, by law is not allowed to block tethering on 4G devices
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haha... you don't think they can? You'd be surprised. You've given them total control of your connected device once signing your TOS.
Any idea which version would work well for a Droid X?
It doesn't appear as though any are appropriate for my phone:
android-wifi-tether - Wireless Tether for Root Users - Google Project Hosting
Scott
total control? hell 3/4 of verizon employees have a hard time restarting a phone.
Let's put it this way: What do you think about your ISP at home telling you you can have internet connection on you computer, but you are not allowed to have a router to connect other devices to your network and share the same internet connection? Because that's what tethering does: allows 2 or more devices to share the same connection. Verizon and ATT should stop trying to charge for something that is out of their limits. I pay to get internet connection on my phone. From that point on, what I'm doing with my data is my business, not theirs.
We've had this discussion before on here. The unlimited you pay for does not include unlimited data use THROUGH your device. It only includes unlimited data ON your device.
Wrong. You signed a contact stating that your data use would occur only on the device unless you pay for tethering.
And I'm using it on my device. And my device has the option to share it with another device. The internet signal payed by me and provided by carrier reaches my phone, like in the contract. After that, I can do whatever I want with it. I can display it on my TV if I choose to. I can leave Hulu streaming 24/7 if I would like so, I payed for unlimited data and that's what I can go for if I want.
Contrary to belief the FCC is one extremely powerful organization. They may not create laws per se, but they do create regulations. Do you think the no nudity or foul language on network TV is a law passed by Congress and signed by the president? Absolutely not,its a regulation enacted by the FCC which carries monster fines which are enforceable in court. So no, they don't make laws, but they have serious screwing power.
As for tethering, its not illegal either. Its a violation of your contract terms and conditions. As for saying VZW cannot put a clause in your contract about tethering which is legally binding, they most definitely do have that ability. You can't sign away a right in a contract but you can waive your right to what you believe are laws.
As for tethering, its not illegal either. Its a violation of your contract terms and conditions. As for saying VZW cannot put a clause in your contract about tethering which is legally binding, they most definitely do have that ability. You can't sign away a right in a contract but you can waive your right to what you believe are laws.
The point is Verizon effectively swore to remove those clauses from their contracts by buying Block C grants. If they didn't like it, they didn't have to buy Block C spec.
Those of us that are willing to jump through a few hoops (see: rooting) will be able to do most of what we want with these devices for the foreseeable future, including tethering.
Even if OEMs could stop us from rooting and modding, I don't know if they would. I honestly believe that recent weak attempts at locking down hardware are the result of OEMs simply putting up a front to make carriers happy. In the end, OEMs want to make a device that is appealing to the largest audience, including the modding community. Moto, HTC, nor Samsung want to be known as hacker-hostile, but they need access to consumers--and for that, they must appease carriers.
And in the end there is always at least one hacker that is a step ahead of the OEMs and carriers--and they know and accept this. I don't believe it's their goal to stop rooting and modding completely--no, their goal is simply to make it complicated enough, and the risks high enough, that the tech simpletons won't attempt it. Think along the lines of the 80/20 rule.
Even if OEMs could stop us from rooting and modding, I don't know if they would. I honestly believe that recent weak attempts at locking down hardware are the result of OEMs simply putting up a front to make carriers happy. In the end, OEMs want to make a device that is appealing to the largest audience, including the modding community. Moto, HTC, nor Samsung want to be known as hacker-hostile, but they need access to consumers--and for that, they must appease carriers.
And in the end there is always at least one hacker that is a step ahead of the OEMs and carriers--and they know and accept this. I don't believe it's their goal to stop rooting and modding completely--no, their goal is simply to make it complicated enough, and the risks high enough, that the tech simpletons won't attempt it. Think along the lines of the 80/20 rule.
Why, am I going to get scolded? Just because you root your phone doesn't mean you're exempt from your legally binding terms of service.
For the record, i am rooted, s-off, and use a tether app. To think Verizon can't "control your phone or how you use it" is ignorant. Just because thy don't in no way means that they can't. Abuse of this will result in them becoming more intrusive as a company (locked bootloaders). If you can't root... you can't tether.
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Say hello to data caps... you're the cause of it in case you're wondering.
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A company that's on track to make over 4 billion dollars this year in profit has no need to cap data, they're clearly not losing money on it. It's greed.
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The rule is arbitrary. It isn't base on any system, it was based on Googles(FYI in case you forgot, Google runs the Android market) suggestion.
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There is also consumer greed. It goes both ways.
"I can leave Hulu streaming 24/7 if I would like so, I payed for unlimited data and that's what I can go for if I want."
If you think you are getting screwed, then take VZW to court. I wonder... how will that turn out?
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Interesting read... I agree big Red will keep this tied up in the courts for years... and probably win 5-10 years from now, when it will make no difference to us.
And none of the other big carriers are any better... I recently left T-Mob, and really did not like big Blue (A*&*) who are now buying T-Mob... and I never had any kind of good service with Sprint... they are all evil and besides oil companies are the only ones that are really making money in this economy.
Like I'm trying to say... they are all evil.
And none of the other big carriers are any better... I recently left T-Mob, and really did not like big Blue (A*&*) who are now buying T-Mob... and I never had any kind of good service with Sprint... they are all evil and besides oil companies are the only ones that are really making money in this economy.
Like I'm trying to say... they are all evil.
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