Galaxy S7 Edge - Will wait for unlocked Exynos version

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Played with retail Verizon version (Qualcomm 820) at Best Buy yesterday. Opened few apps and a pre installed game (don't remember the name) for couple of mins (didn't play) and immediately felt phone getting hot. Didn't expect this and completely disappointed. I am ready to sacrifice my note edge and move to S7 edge because of its amazing aesthetics , beauty and perfect strike between size & shape. I hope it's only problem with this retail unit. May be Exynos version will not have this problem.

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Re: Will wait for unlocked Exynos version

The display model isn't nec5 indicative of how the consumer model will work.
 

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Re: Will wait for unlocked Exynos version

I was thinking that the display models might be slightly different to what we actually get as consumers
 

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Re: Will wait for unlocked Exynos version

The Exynos octa core, Global, variant is not available for U.S. carriers I am given to understand.

Looks like the stock Samsung Global model of the S7/Edge, G930F/G935F, will get...

Exynos 8890 Octa... Quad-core 2.3 GHz + Quad-core 1.6 GHz

Whilst the U.S. carrier models of the S7/Edge, G930A/P/V/T/R & G935A/P/V/T/R, and possibly the South East Asia models G930FD/G935FD, will get...

Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820... Dual-core 2.15 GHz + Dual-core 1.6 GHz

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Re: Will wait for unlocked Exynos version

1. It's a floor store model that has god knows what abuse in the past few days.

2. After the 810 heating thing I'd think they would take steps to ensure this doesn't happen (both involved parties in the S7)

3. I've seen the 820 outperform the exynos in the benchmarks I've seen

4. If you buy an international version for use in the US you will lose some functionality (Samsung Pay for one)

5. You will also not get the freebies if you buy the international version in the US (not positive but I think this is what I heard)

6. You will pay more for the international version in the US despite 1-5 listed above.

I'll stick with the US version that I pre-ordered from T-Mobile and if it does have overheating issues I'll assess during my 14 day return window.
 

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Re: Will wait for unlocked Exynos version

Agreed. Store models are just that, models. Placed there for mass viewing and cranked up in the settings in a way I would never use my phone. I play with store models to get some hands on and pick a color. That's it.

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Re: Will wait for unlocked Exynos version

Be advised that Samsung do manufacture and issue special, "Live Demo", models to retailers for display purposes only. These models have the, "X", suffix and cannot make calls or send texts but are Wi-Fi enabled to connect to the stores Wi-Fi and have a special demonstration firmware with optimised settings that may not entirely reflect that which is eventually released on a particular model. See, here. Perhaps you were using one of these.
 

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All the Best Buy floor models were "930X" with the Exynos chip inside. At least at the 2 stores I visited.

You're saying you specifically handled a Verizon branded S7 at Best Buy? This would be odd since I wasn't aware they display live carrier branded models?
 

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One of the Samsung reps at my local best buy let me play around with a unit that wasn't tethered. Was able to use it for about 30 minutes looking at settings, playing around with a few apps, checking memory management, etc. and I did not notice any heating at all.
 

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Played with retail Verizon version (Qualcomm 820) at Best Buy yesterday. Opened few apps and a pre installed game (don't remember the name) for couple of mins (didn't play) and immediately felt phone getting hot. Didn't expect this and completely disappointed. I am ready to sacrifice my note edge and move to S7 edge because of its amazing aesthetics , beauty and perfect strike between size & shape. I hope it's only problem with this retail unit. May be Exynos version will not have this problem.

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I've been using both s7 and s7 edge Verizon versions and there is no heat issues at all. Keep in mind that those units are on ALL Day with full brightness running a demo loop and also running non consumer versions. What you experienced is normal, but you will not see this with a consumer model.

I just can't understand how people on here are making these decisions without the phone being released. You can't go based off of demo models or display models and by what other people's opinions are.
 

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Just got back from a Verizon store. So far, I have handled the device at Best Buy (Exynos) and Verizon (Snapdragon). The Snapdragon at the Verizon store got VERY warm to what I would call hot. The Exynos version did not get that warm when I ran through it.

Now, the Snapdragon device was stuffed with an annoying demo that popped up at specified intervals, just like the Verizon rep above said. However, the Note 5 next to it, nor the S6 on the opposite side exhibited heat like this. Also, in my 6 months of ownership of the Note 5, never has it once gotten nearly that warm.

Either way, it's somewhat concerning. If it's really the demo software, why didn't the other Galaxy phones on Exynos chipsets get nearly as warm? I'm really becoming skeptical of this "heatpipe" they added to the S7. The heatpipe wasn't necessary last year and my Note 5 runs very cool.

We'll see once reviewers start releasing detailed reviews.
 

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Just got back from a Verizon store. So far, I have handled the device at Best Buy (Exynos) and Verizon (Snapdragon). The Snapdragon at the Verizon store got VERY warm to what I would call hot. The Exynos version did not get that warm when I ran through it.

Now, the Snapdragon device was stuffed with an annoying demo that popped up at specified intervals, just like the Verizon rep above said. However, the Note 5 next to it, nor the S6 on the opposite side exhibited heat like this. Also, in my 6 months of ownership of the Note 5, never has it once gotten nearly that warm.

Either way, it's somewhat concerning. If it's really the demo software, why didn't the other Galaxy phones on Exynos chipsets get nearly as warm? I'm really becoming skeptical of this "heatpipe" they added to the S7. The heatpipe wasn't necessary last year and my Note 5 runs very cool.

We'll see once reviewers start releasing detailed reviews.

If Samsung was at all concerned with heat being an issue on the 820 like it was with the 810, they wouldn't have used the 820 - they would have used the Exynos in all variants just like they did last year.

Also, keep in mind that the Exynos 7420 was by no means perfect and also had to throttle significantly to avoid heat problems. So, last year Samsung basically relied on throttling to manage heat whereas this year they're using a heatpipe to help manage heat to potentially avoid negative impact on performance.
 

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I think most people were expecting the 8890 to be more powerful than the 820, but Geekbench only tells part of the story. I'll wait for detailed performance reviews from Anandtech and Tom's Hardware because I suspect that single core performance will have more of an impact on overall performance than multi-core performance.
 

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Serious question, does anyone know when unlocked units of the S7 and S7 Edge will be available in the US?

Will Best Buy or B&H get them? And roughly around when? Three or four months later?

And do they typically have all the bands necessary for T-Mobile?

Thanks!
 

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Well, I can't say you should judge using store units. They're always on and also subject to quite a lot of use and abuse by people, more so than what our own phones will encounter. The S6 Edge store units have already begun to suffer from pretty bad burn-in on their displays because they're displaying the same thing for who knows how long.

Also, given the 810 fiasco, they wouldn't let something like this happen again, especially since Samsung themselves are manufacturing the chip on their 14nm FinFET fabrication tech and also incorporated a heatpipe to better manage thermal performance.

Another thing. You sure the unit at Best Buy was on an Exynos? Because Best Buy said that their units have the Snapdragon 820, like every S7 destined for the US.

Also note that if you go with an international unlocked unit, you may miss out on some crucial LTE bands.
 

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