Google Nexus 6 Why are the carriers so clueless?

Re: Why are the carriers so clueless?

They are a week away from getting them. What use is it getting "trained" on a product when it's out on the floor. There's not many jobs where you get trained five minutes before you start doing something on your own.

And as for homework? As a salesperson, I'm sure they get commission. Is it not their job to KNOW their products? Regardless if it's an uncommon Nexus, or overhyped iPhone.

Their 'training' may be as simple as a internal product release memo via email highlighting key selling points and features, and a more detailed sheet available on their intranet. Most OEM's have reps that will visit the stores as well to do some 'working' field training, or possibly conduct a brief training during a store's staff meeting. Mandatory "homework" doesn't generally fit the job description of a retail salesperson.

As to commission, generally speaking they will be assigned a quote of new activations, target amounts for accessory sales, etc, but the variance in commission will usually be tied more to the profitability of the plans/features sold than to the specific device.

Retail employees are the lowest level employees for a carrier. The lowest level employees will be the last employees given information. Particularly information the carrier may not want public yet or involving information that may not be 100% finalized.

Retail employees are the front line in the sales effort, so training directed towards them will have greater benefit for the carrier than training to nearly anyone else. The only people outside of middle/upper management and marketing that are likely to get it early would be technical support and engineering; the rest (general customer care, retail/telesales, etc) usually all see that information only just before a launch if it's under a general NDA as it the carrier doesn't want sales reps discussing devices that cannot be sold at that moment (bird in the bush...).
 
Re: Why are the carriers so clueless?

Carriers don't like nexus. It goes against everything they want (unlocked bootloader, updates without carrier interference, no bloat or crappy skins,) so they push their own other phones (droid, galaxy, etc) which they have more control over. Not to mention the nexus has never been a huge seller so carriers will put it on the back burner.
 
Re: Why are the carriers so clueless?

My AT&T and T-Mobile knows whats up the Nexus 6. Dont have any carrier plans yet but they at least know what i was talking about
 
Called a T-Mobile retail store today because im starting to worry if I'll get it on launch day since there's no preorders.

Me: Hey I was just wondering if and when the nexus 6 will be available for preorder for T-Mobile.

Her: What? The IPhone 6?

Me: No the nexus 6

Her: I don't think we're getting that phone because it doesn't have WiFi calling. (Lol)

Me: its confirmed for the 12th

-put me on hold for 5 min-

Her: Ok back. We don't have any information on that atm.

Me: ... Ok
 
Don't expect carrier store employees to have the inside info on phones that aren't already in the store, they rarely do.
 
Amazes me how people contact live chat support (largely automated system), call and even walk into stores expecting more information than what is available to all of us here on the internet. Look at this forum and others like it... no rep is going to know any more than we do right now. A day or two prior to launch they may be able to tell you something about availability, but really that's it. It's a huge waste of time to talk to most of these people.
 
Amazes me how people contact live chat support (largely automated system), call and even walk into stores expecting more information than what is available to all of us here on the internet. Look at this forum and others like it... no rep is going to know any more than we do right now. A day or two prior to launch they may be able to tell you something about availability, but really that's it. It's a huge waste of time to talk to most of these people.

I ask just to see what they say.... but you are right... they are mostly clueless.. while out shopping over the weekend I hit up 4 different T-Mobile stores and got 4 completely different answers.. I wasn't going out of my way to visit just the shopping centers I was in had a store so I said "Why not" One told me to go order from the Play store if I wanted one (LOL) One told me there was no announced released date.. so I showed him the press release from the T-Mobile website and he just said "Then we should have it on the 12th" Only ONE said they didn't know and went and got someone else.. The other person at least SEEMED knowledgeable about the device and said they would probably have roughly 10 in stock on the 12th (Without me prompting him on the date.. I just asked if they would have it and when) but also said "I don't anticipate there being much of a rush on it.......
 
I learned many years ago to take CSR's information with a grain of salt. But I especially run quickly from the ones who I am in chat with that use macro's. If a paragraph pops up 3 seconds after I ask a question, I know this person is on autopilot and knows nothing of real value. Only what they have been coached or told to say. I don't blame them either. The carriers know what is up, but the poor CSR's get the grief and bad rap.
 
I learned many years ago to take CSR's information with a grain of salt. But I especially run quickly from the ones who I am in chat with that use macro's. If a paragraph pops up 3 seconds after I ask a question, I know this person is on autopilot and knows nothing of real value. Only what they have been coached or told to say. I don't blame them either. The carriers know what is up, but the poor CSR's get the grief and bad rap.

Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious, but it doesn't stop me from asking from time to time, just to see what the answer will be. I do hate the canned responses. For example, I start out by stating that I am not interested in ordering at this time, but I have a few questions I would like answered. The response is, "I will be happy to help you with your order." A good tip right there that the conversation likely will be going nowhere.
 
I actually got into a chat with a rep supporting sales on Motorola's site. When he said the models they sold wouldn't work on Verizon because they were GSM only, and not CDMA, I didn't know whether to feel amused or frustrated. For a moment I thought the site was only selling the 'international version,' but when I asked him that and he said Motorola was only making one version...
 
Re: Why are the carriers so clueless?

These people are not minimum wage. An AT&T rep that works 30 hours a week makes around 50K a year. But, they ARE commission based and why bother discussing a phone they don't have when they can be talking to a customer that wants to buy whats IN the store RIGHT NOW so they can make commission.
Reps don't want to deal with anything that isn't making them more money.
 
I actually got into a chat with a rep supporting sales on Motorola's site. When he said the models they sold wouldn't work on Verizon because they were GSM only, and not CDMA, I didn't know whether to feel amused or frustrated. For a moment I thought the site was only selling the 'international version,' but when I asked him that and he said Motorola was only making one version...

YIkes, I hope that's not true! There will be a lot of pissed off people who ordered from the Moto site today who are on VZW! Oopsie!
 
Re: Why are the carriers so clueless?

These people are not minimum wage. An AT&T rep that works 30 hours a week makes around 50K a year. But, they ARE commission based and why bother discussing a phone they don't have when they can be talking to a customer that wants to buy whats IN the store RIGHT NOW so they can make commission.
Reps don't want to deal with anything that isn't making them more money.

Dangerous tight rope to walk.... I've worked in commission based sales for the last 8 years.... I make a darn good living selling.... That guy you kind of blow off because he isn't buying today or you don't have what he wants in stock right now could cost you later on... I've gone to see customers many of times who didn't need anything or were not looking to buy today who turned around to make me some good commissions when I least expect it....

Too many people are lazy and want the quick sale.... That guy you ignore and turn away might come back in two weeks and get 2 Nexus 6 on new contracts.... If you blew me off when I came in to ask I'd go to another store when I was ready to buy...

But at the same time I do understand it.... It stinks to waste time with someone when you look over your shoulder and the other guy is selling a phone... (Or whatever it is) I am not in retail sales.. I work in commercial aircraft sales so completely different world than a $700 phone.... But the principles are the same.....

Tough cut throat world commission sales....
 
YIkes, I hope that's not true! There will be a lot of pissed off people who ordered from the Moto site today who are on VZW! Oopsie!

When I went through to the point of checkout, there was never an option, but I'd wager that anyone ordering with a US shipping address is automatically seeded the 'americas' model.
 
When I went through to the point of checkout, there was never an option, but I'd wager that anyone ordering with a US shipping address is automatically seeded the 'americas' model.

would be mildly entertaining in a sad kind of way if I got one that only spoke Spanish (international version for those who don't get my sarcasm) :p
 
When I went through to the point of checkout, there was never an option, but I'd wager that anyone ordering with a US shipping address is automatically seeded the 'americas' model.

Its all done according to ip address ....if ip is in North America you get play store in North America. ...by the way if you tried to get international there are not any being sold yet .....so only north American is pre order right now. ....some in different countries use proxy servers to order phones also
 

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