Hate the Pie update!!!!

[Android Central Question]

Please how do i get it to uninstall? I loved my phone (Note8) the way it was!!!

I have spoken with so many people that HATE the PIE update...

How can we go back?

 

[Dave-in-Decatur]

Short answer: we can't. It's not just a software update, it's the operating system. Without rooting your phone, I don't think there's anyway to undo it.

 

[jejb]

Mine has finally settled down after the update. It was really up and down for a couple of weeks. Some days, battery life would be good, some days it was awful. But it's been very good the last 3-4 days, so I think I'm out of the woods. Give it a little more time, keep clearing the cache, etc.

 

[donm527]

My Note 8 has been running as good if not better after the update so no complaints. I actually feel battery has been better with less drain but could be because the default changes to stuff like AOD where I have to tap to see it when locked and hasn't minded it for me to change it.

I have been pretty tired of Material Design of Android for a while so I'm ok with OneUI. It's a clean interface and looks fresh.

 

[gonecks1]

I'm happy to have the update but it seems like my battery life is much worse.

 

[metropolitim]

The stuff I hate is more existential. Yet another update that adds more iPhone behaviours and styling that go backwards in functionality and ease of use. I've used a number of apps to work around these in the past, and quite a few are broken after the update. I assume they'll catch up, but in the meantime, I'm really, really upset by this one.

 

[toenail_flicker]

Please how do i get it to uninstall? I loved my phone (Note8) the way it was!!!

I have spoken with so many people that HATE the PIE update...

How can we go back?

thank you for this post. came here to answer exactly this question, how is Pie. as I assumed, it sucks and I won't be taking it.

 

[anon(10598448)]

You can flash Oreo back onto the phone using Odin. You'll have to do some research on your own but there is a Note 8 forum on the XDA Developers site that will have a thread telling you how. It's very simple.

I am still on Oreo on my Note 8 and Note 9 and have disabled software update.

 

[Brew Swayne]

You can flash Oreo back onto the phone using Odin. You'll have to do some research on your own but there is a Note 8 forum on the XDA Developers site that will have a thread telling you how. It's very simple.

I am still on Oreo on my Note 8 and Note 9 and have disabled software update.

I've been using Android phones for about 5 years now and have never once come close to thinking about rooting my phone.....until now. Pie is flat out terrible. I hate it. My battery life is total crap....maybe 2 hours of screen time on a full charge and it drains crazy fast even when I'm not using it. Fast charging seems much slower as well. Other than being able to change my settings menu to black, I'm struggling to find anything else about Pie that I don't hate. I'm gonna see what the Note 10 has going on when it comes out in a few months, so I might just upgrade instead of rooting, but if the phone doesn't have some impressive new specs or features, then I very well may just root my Note 8.

 

[jkarwow]

Hate to tell you this but the Note 10 will also have Pie and OneUI. The battery situation sounds more like a bad battery.

 

[Brew Swayne]

I know the 10 will have it, but the 10 will also be built to accomodate it better. Not to mention that the 10 will likely be one of the first phones to get Q, which I'm hoping is vastly improved.

And the battery was incredible up until I got Pie. I was consistently getting 4-5 hours of screen time on a full charge the day before receiving the update. After the update my battery life was immediately cut in half. That's not a coincidence.

 

[jmj227]

I tried hard to avoid getting Pie and had to daily click "install later" on my N8 with verizon because my phone was running perfect. Until it no longer gave me that option and forced me to choose a time, and then it installed the update when I was asleep! Big bummer. I like a few things with Pie but so much seems like a step backward including battery life. This is my second Note, and I'm beginning to think at the two year mark they do whatever they can to convince you to buy a new phone!

Unless I'm missing something:
-no more swipe up from home screen for Samsung Pay, now I can use swipe up on fingerprint sensor, but that rarely works.
-no more "device care: edge screen
-also, how in the world do I do dual screen apps? I can't seem to figure that one out


I am using Nova Launcher, so I wonder if that's the issue.

 

[srvctec]

thank you for this post. came here to answer exactly this question, how is Pie. as I assumed, it sucks and I won't be taking it.

Same here. Over a year ago, my N8 kept saying there was an update and I kept deferring it every single day for weeks. Now, I never get any notification about any new updates and it's amazingly refreshing. Over the last year, I just updated using Smart Switch on my PC every month or two. Made sure I got the latest update back in February just before the Pie release in April. Loving the fact I'll never have to put Pie on my phone or be bugged by any update nags.

Oh, and I regularly get 4-4.5 hours SOT to 50% battery remaining. I could probably get 6-8 hours if I pushed it all the way until it forced me to recharge but that's not how I roll.

 

[kj11]

I tried hard to avoid getting Pie and had to daily click "install later" on my N8 with verizon because my phone was running perfect. Until it no longer gave me that option and forced me to choose a time, and then it installed the update when I was asleep! Big bummer. I like a few things with Pie but so much seems like a step backward including battery life. This is my second Note, and I'm beginning to think at the two year mark they do whatever they can to convince you to buy a new phone!

Unless I'm missing something:
-no more swipe up from home screen for Samsung Pay, now I can use swipe up on fingerprint sensor, but that rarely works.
-no more "device care: edge screen
-also, how in the world do I do dual screen apps? I can't seem to figure that one out


I am using Nova Launcher, so I wonder if that's the issue.

Recent apps, then tap on the logo of the app and it opens up this menu

 

[srgonu]

I tried hard to avoid getting Pie and had to daily click "install later" on my N8 with verizon because my phone was running perfect. Until it no longer gave me that option and forced me to choose a time, and then it installed the update when I was asleep! Big bummer. I like a few things with Pie but so much seems like a step backward including battery life. This is my second Note, and I'm beginning to think at the two year mark they do whatever they can to convince you to buy a new phone!

Unless I'm missing something:
-no more swipe up from home screen for Samsung Pay, now I can use swipe up on fingerprint sensor, but that rarely works.
-no more "device care: edge screen
-also, how in the world do I do dual screen apps? I can't seem to figure that one out


I am using Nova Launcher, so I wonder if that's the issue.

Install goodlock and you will get all the customization you need including split screen multitasking, pop up window etc.

 

[onthehunt]

I prefer to keep my Note 8 the way it is and don't want to update. I keep postponing the update to later and am worried it will automatically install at some point. How do I disable teh software update? Thanks.

 

[srvctec]

I prefer to keep my Note 8 the way it is and don't want to update. I keep postponing the update to later and am worried it will automatically install at some point. How do I disable teh software update? Thanks.

In Developer Options, turn off Auto update system. I'm on Verizon and this is what it looks like. If you're with another carrier, it might be different.

 

[metropolitim]

Man, I wish I'd seen this earlier. I hate this update more by the day, and wish I'd never gotten anywhere near it. It really has me wondering if it's time to leave Samsung.

I do want to give major kudos to the advice from @srvctec in a post just above this, to get Good Lock (note that it's two words) from the Samsung App Store (not the Google Play App Store): [url]https://galaxystore.samsung.com/detail/com.samsung.android.goodlock[/URL].

I've still got a long list of things I hate about Pie, but Good Lock enables alternatives to some of the most painful changes in the update, enough that I'm no longer looking for a new phone today. But I'm definitely looking. I've been a Note guy from the beginning, and can't believe how much pleasure this update has sucked out of the Note experience for me. I'm deeply disturbed by what it bodes for the iPhone-ification of Samsung's OS. I'd been happily sheltering myself from what I'd hoped was the worst of it by using Nova Launcher, but not even Nova was enough this time (although I'm sure I'll be using it forever, including on my next phone).

So if you can, by all means avoid installing it. If you have to, or already have, Good Lock will make a huge difference for you. Even if you're one of the folks who loves Pie, Good Lock makes it better. Highly, highly recommended.

 

[srvctec]

Man, I wish I'd seen this earlier. I hate this update more by the day, and wish I'd never gotten anywhere near it. It really has me wondering if it's time to leave Samsung.

I do want to give major kudos to the advice from @srvctec in a post just above this, to get Good Lock (note that it's two words) from the Samsung App Store (not the Google Play App Store): [url]https://galaxystore.samsung.com/detail/com.samsung.android.goodlock[/URL].

I've still got a long list of things I hate about Pie, but Good Lock enables alternatives to some of the most painful changes in the update, enough that I'm no longer looking for a new phone today. But I'm definitely looking. I've been a Note guy from the beginning, and can't believe how much pleasure this update has sucked out of the Note experience for me. I'm deeply disturbed by what it bodes for the iPhone-ification of Samsung's OS. I'd been happily sheltering myself from what I'd hoped was the worst of it by using Nova Launcher, but not even Nova was enough this time (although I'm sure I'll be using it forever, including on my next phone).

So if you can, by all means avoid installing it. If you have to, or already have, Good Lock will make a huge difference for you. Even if you're one of the folks who loves Pie, Good Lock makes it better. Highly, highly recommended.

Do you still hate Pie on he Note 8? I'm considering finally updating to it but only if Call Recorder by Skvalex still works on Pie. If not, and if there aren't other concerns, I just might do it.

 

[metropolitim]

I do still hate Pie in the Note 8. While I haven't tried the call recorder you mentioned, the other three I'd tried, including the previously bulletproof Cube ACR, all broke under Pie. The workaround I'm using is Google Voice, which is pretty annoying. No outgoing call recording, so people have to call your Google Voice number, and there's a spoken alert that the call is being recorded. The latter isn't a huge deal, because what I record is interviews that the subject knows I'll be writing up (the calls are typically arranged by PR companies), but it's obtrusive enough that it becomes the topic of conversation for a few beats. It can be tough to get the interview on the rails after that. I don't like that it doesn't record outgoing calls, which is more of what I'd normally do (subject and I both calling into the PR call center), so I'll definitely give Call Recorder a try.

I was also dismayed to discover on my wife's phone that Android 10 broke some parts of Good Lock, including my very favorite module, the Recents tab.

That said, I'm kinda stuck with the things I still like about Samsung, and how much I hate Apple, so I've got an eye out for the new phones this month. the only other one catching my eye is the Motorola Razr, but I need to hear more about the cameras before I'd consider pulling the trigger.

Sorry not to have better news!