Here's how the titanium holds up

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

It's interesting to watch, scroll down for video

A burned Galaxy S24 Ultra shows Samsung opted for lower-grade titanium

Apple and Samsung use titanium, but their strength isn't the same.

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[mustang7757]

I've seen Jerry video a day or two ago, I'm not worried I'm just enjoying my s24u

 

[Laura Knotek]

I've seen Jerry video a day or two ago, I'm not worried I'm just enjoying my s24u

Me too.

 

[mustang7757]

Me too.

I watch his other projects also not just his phone teardown

 

[fuzzylumpkin]

I find it interesting that Samsung are using purer titanium than Apple, who can't claim they're using pure titanium at all but a titanium alloy.

The titanium alloy used on the iPhone is objectively better as a material for a phone frame than the pure titanium used by Samsung, but it's all about the spin lol.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

I just found it interesting to watch. In reality, if your phone is in a fire is anyone going to be concerned about the titanium? I just enjoy watching this guy take the phones apart and get some chuckles by is comments.

 

[fuzzylumpkin]

I just found it interesting to watch. In reality, if your phone is in a fire is anyone going to be concerned about the titanium? I just enjoy watching this guy take the phones apart and get some chuckles by is comments.

The point there isn't that the titanium can survive the fire, it's to show how much (or little) actual titanium the phone contains.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

The point there isn't that the titanium can survive the fire, it's to show how much (or little) actual titanium the phone contains.

I understand that. In life after a fire it doesn't really matter, you have titanium left or a little more.

 

[mlblack16]

It's safe to say the whole titanium thing is just a marketing ploy to make people think their phone is special, since innovation has slowed tremendously and newer iterations of these flagship devices really only have slight improvements.

But in the Jerryrig video, I was pleased to see how much structural integrity the S24U possesses when he tried the bend test. Although not scientific, you could tell he applied quite a bit of force and seemed impressed with the results.

The extent to which that is due to the titanium is probably not what most would guess, but impressive nonetheless.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

It's safe to say the whole titanium thing is just a marketing ploy to make people think their phone is special, since innovation has slowed tremendously and newer iterations of these flagship devices really only have slight improvements.

But in the Jerryrig video, I was pleased to see how much structural integrity the S24U possesses when he tried the bend test. Although not scientific, you could tell he applied quite a bit of force and seemed impressed with the results.

The extent to which that is due to the titanium is probably not what most would guess, but impressive nonetheless.

Very much a marketing tool ploy.

 

[fuzzylumpkin]

It's safe to say the whole titanium thing is just a marketing ploy to make people think their phone is special, since innovation has slowed tremendously and newer iterations of these flagship devices really only have slight improvements.

But in the Jerryrig video, I was pleased to see how much structural integrity the S24U possesses when he tried the bend test. Although not scientific, you could tell he applied quite a bit of force and seemed impressed with the results.

The extent to which that is due to the titanium is probably not what most would guess, but impressive nonetheless.

I definitely agree. You may get a little more scratch resistance, but that's it. it contributes nothing to the structural strength, and I think that the massive 1 (one!) gramme of weight we lost is more likely to have come from the smaller 5x periscope than the small quantity of titanium lol.

Different story for the iPeople going from steel to aluminium/titanium, but for us they only did it because the other guys did.

 

[Stanley Kubrick]

Personally I think the aluminum "they" all used for years was more than adequate for a computerized communications device! But if they really want to make the frames strong why not use surgical grade stainless steel? I have a pair of locking forceps (roach clip from long, long ago) sitting in a box of junk in my garage and they look as good as the day I acquired them about 50 years ago! Even the stainless steel used in our "silverware" lasts longer than we live! Titanium tishmanium!

 

[fuzzylumpkin]

Personally I think the aluminum "they" all used for years was more than adequate for a computerized communications device! But if they really want to make the frames strong why not use surgical grade stainless steel? I have a pair of locking forceps (roach clip from long, long ago) sitting in a box of junk in my garage and they look as good as the day I acquired them about 50 years ago! Even the stainless steel used in our "silverware" lasts longer than we live! Titanium tishmanium!

Because it would make the phone considerably heavier... also stainless steel just doesn't very cool. Titanium is one of the more baller metals and it's bad enough to have people think they copied the iPhone 15 Pro Max, but if they were talking about them copying the 14 Pro Max... now that's embarrassing

 

[mustang7757]

We just need removable batteries to go with the 7-year software update support

 

[rvbfan]

Part of the 7 year update is that parts will be available for that time. So if I'm using my P8P in 5 years at least I can bring it to a shop and get a quality replacement battery..

 

[mustang7757]

Part of the 7 year update is that parts will be available for that time. So if I'm using my P8P in 5 years at least I can bring it to a shop and get a quality replacement battery..

I probably won't make it past 2 year mark lol we see.

 

[Village_Idiot]

People have a misconception about titanium and are conflating hardness with strength. Hardness and strength are two different properties. Titanium has higher tensile strength by weight than steel, but it is not as hard as steel. It also has better with regards to expansion and contraction properties when it comes to heat exposure. This is why it is used in the aerospace industry and underwater vehicle industry.

Incorporating titanium into phone frames does make the phone stronger more durable phone with less weight. However, it also makes it less scratch and abrasion resistant. There are trade-offs in anything we do. People want lighter more durable phones, but to get that, you have to sacrifice scratch and abrasion resistance.

TANSTAAFL - There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

 

[fuzzylumpkin]

People have a misconception about titanium and are conflating hardness with strength. Hardness and strength are two different properties. Titanium has higher tensile strength by weight than steel, but it is not as hard as steel. It also has better with regards to expansion and contraction properties when it comes to heat exposure. This is why it is used in the aerospace industry and underwater vehicle industry.

Incorporating titanium into phone frames does make the phone stronger more durable phone with less weight. However, it also makes it less scratch and abrasion resistant. There are trade-offs in anything we do. People want lighter more durable phones, but to get that, you have to sacrifice scratch and abrasion resistance.

TANSTAAFL - There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

That's true, but it only applies to the iPeople. We aren't coming from steel but aluminium (well, not really coming from... it still makes up the bulk of the frame). And titanium is both stronger and harder than aluminium, it's also a good bit heavier by volume, which is why I said I don't think that's where the weight saving came from.

So the outer of our S24 Ultras are more scratch and dent resistant than the frames of the S23/22/21 Ultra.,

 

[Stanley Kubrick]

Plastic - lighter, scratch resistant (using certain plastics), doesn't block cell signals, cheaper, doesn't break like glass when dropped.... fiberglass! Many, many other materials other than "metal" can and should be used for many reasons!

 

[pteezay]

Another insight from this video I love pointing out to my friends when they say they hear their camera lens make noise when they shake their phone are the stabilizers that cause that noise. His tear downs are spot on!