High End Devices should they have bloatware?

High end devices, should there be carrier & manufacturer bloatware/UI addons?


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I am not sure what the obsession here is with bloatware. I for one do not watch nascar on sprint but having it and removing it is not a big deal. I do however watch sprint tv. It is just part of what you get when you sign onto a service, and imo, there is nothing wrong with that.

I respect that you don't care for it, but embrace it ;)
 
I don't mind the bloatware. Some if it I like to use other applications that I don't use I can easily ignore.

Yeah, but a after a simple root and deleting the unwanted sprint programs, your battery life will improve as less things run in the background.
 
I am not sure what the obsession here is with bloatware. I for one do not watch nascar on sprint but having it and removing it is not a big deal. I do however watch sprint tv. It is just part of what you get when you sign onto a service, and imo, there is nothing wrong with that.

No. Much bloatware has very bad affects whether you use it or not

a) This handset had no ability to use card memory for programs for seven months. It was one of the few released in Sept that had this limit (do to older android). This made conserving space on internal memory important and blaotware a more serious negative than other handsets.

b) It is an objective fact that the drm service added with media hub causes a 5% to 15% hit on overall battery life even if you never use media hub.
 
for me personally, i don't care what crap they pre-load the device with, because it's gonna get rooted. and i understand loading a couple of carrier specific apps (sprint tv, nav, ect) for people to take advantage of if they would like. the problem is not giving the customer the ability to remove the apps if they are unwanted (after all, i bought the phone, i'm not renting from sprint). then when you start getting into hidden processes (i.e. DRM service, CIQ), that not only effect performance/battery life, but may also be gathering information in the background, that's where i start to have some big problems
 
for me personally, i don't care what crap they pre-load the device with, because it's gonna get rooted. and i understand loading a couple of carrier specific apps (sprint tv, nav, ect) for people to take advantage of if they would like. the problem is not giving the customer the ability to remove the apps if they are unwanted (after all, i bought the phone, i'm not renting from sprint). then when you start getting into hidden processes (i.e. DRM service, CIQ), that not only effect performance/battery life, but may also be gathering information in the background, that's where i start to have some big problems

+100and to the 100power
 
I'd rather see an option for stock android. The samsung calendar, email and contaccts add no additional value over the asop versions, and in many instances, strip valuable options away or have glitches.

Bloat sucks, but I can remove that with root...until or IF cyanogen is completed, only then can we have fully working phones with asop stock apps.
 
Bloatware = Cheaper phone cost to consumers.

Manufacturers and Carriers receive revenue by pre-installing these apps. If they did not, they would have to capture this revenue in other ways, i.e. higher phone cost, higher monthly payments, etc.. An app provider will pay MORE, if the app cannot be summarily dismissed. This is all pretty much how the WHOLE Google world works. Things are free or cheap, they get you by making you look at the advertising.
 
Then explain how the iPhone is practically devoid of bloat? Sorry I don't buy that arguement.

It's not... the iPhone has a bunch of built-in system apps you can't remove, just like Android. All the stock apps - notes, browser, weather, etc - not to mention iTunes and the App Store. They're not as bad as having a dedicated Nascar app but it's still bloat nonetheless.

Scott is right. Carriers wouldn't waste their time developing bloatware and force feeding it to every phone if there wasn't something in it for them. I guarantee you Sprint isn't bringing us Nascar and NFL out of the goodness of their hearts.
 
notes, browser, weather, etc - not to mention iTunes and the App Store.

Uh- that's not carrier bloat. That's System Apps. I don't love samsung's TW or their apps- but that's not my main complaint- it's forcing Blockbuster onto the Evo, Asphalt onto the Epic... CARRIER crap. If you don't like the OEM system apps- then you won't like ANY PHONE.

Personally, iphone (and no I've never owned one) having memory allocated how you see fit is way better than Androids' crappy move to SD BS. You buy a 16gb iphone- go download 15gb of apps! under 400mb to keep app storage on the Epic is a JOKE. I could store more apps on my palm PRE than most Android phones.

Google needs to fix app storage- either all apps should run from SD- or all phones need minimum 8GB of internal storage that can handle apps.

Then maybe people wouldn't complain about bloat.
 
Fresh start

Be it PC or Android, I have always found it to be the case that the computer runs better when the original software is wiped completely, the device is formatted, and I am allowed to install everything.

Better control over what is installed; more streamlined in the end.
 

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