How Does Apple Maintain Its Stranglehold On The Best Cellphone Cameras?

[colyn1353]

Are you seriously going to sit there and tell me that the S5 can out preform a Nikon DSLR in terms of image quality? Considering that you ignored my request and others for sample images, I doubt you even have any and are just attempting to spur a response from others.

Show me where I said outperform... I don't recall saying any such thing.. If you would like to see two images of the S5 and D700 check here.. http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s5/456510-test-images.html

Since you just want to argue and mis-quote me I will no longer respond to your posts.. I'm not here to argue..

 

[msavic6]

Show me where I said outperform... I don't recall saying any such thing.. If you would like to see two images of the S5 and D700 check here.. http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s5/456510-test-images.html

Since you just want to argue and mis-quote me I will no longer respond to your posts.. I'm not here to argue..

My apologies, you said "looks as good" which implies the quality is equivalent to a DSLR. My point still stands, the S5 can't compete.

You have essentially ignored everything I have said and responded with short and ambiguous sentences. You have not defended your argument nor proven it, all you have shown is that you blindly defend something without any respect for the contrary side.

You can dislike something and still admit it does something well, instead of spewing non-sense that has been proven wrong by many review sites. The S5 is poor in low light, it's time to face the music.

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[colyn1353]

I have an old Sony DSLR with a lowly 7 mp rating. it has a built-in variable lens that does a fairly good job.

I had the same camera. Back in the day it was a very good camera. I replaced it with a used Nikon D200 and thought I had died and gone to heaven.. This one too has been replaced by the D700 and D800..

I like these Nikons in part because I can use my 40+ year old AI glass...

 

[black_thorne]

The problem with posting side by side comparisions is that the forum reduces the image size so issues like noise, etc is difficult to see however I am going to do a project comparing the S5, 5S, and my Nikon D700 on my Flickr page..

If your going to do a comparison of the galaxy and iphone, you should use the iphone 6. Seeing as these 2 would be each other's competitor.

 

[colyn1353]

If your going to do a comparison of the galaxy and iphone, you should use the iphone 6. Seeing as these 2 would be each other's competitor.

The iPhone 5S will be my last iPhone. I played with both the 6 and 6 plus at the AT&T store and found them to be nothing more than an enlarged 5S.

Don't get me wrong.. Both are fine phones but I still much prefer Android..

I'll keep the iPhone around for awhile since I want to keep that number active..

 

[black_thorne]

The iPhone 5S will be my last iPhone. I played with both the 6 and 6 plus at the AT&T store and found them to be nothing more than an enlarged 5S.

Don't get me wrong.. Both are fine phones but I still much prefer Android..

I'll keep the iPhone around for awhile since I want to keep that number active..

What I meant was, if your going to do a photo comparison, compare the galaxy S5 against the iphone 6 instead of the 5S.

 

[colyn1353]

What I meant was, if your going to do a photo comparison, compare the galaxy S5 against the iphone 6 instead of the 5S.

I agree...

Since iPhone upgraded the 6 and 6 plus sensors to the motion sensor there is a slight difference between the 5S and 6..

 

[undulose]

iPhones beat Droids because of software optimization. Even HDR quality is good. But Lumias with Pureview can take absolutely better shots than iPhones if one knows how to play with its manual settings.

 

[shanghaichica]

What I meant was, if your going to do a photo comparison, compare the galaxy S5 against the iphone 6 instead of the 5S.

I'm confident that the S5 will beat the iPhone 6 /6+ in good lighting.

Posted from my S5

 

[colyn1353]

I'm confident that the S5 will beat the iPhone 6 /6+ in good lighting.

Posted from my S5

The only difference between the iPhone 5S and 6/6+ is the addition of the motion sensor so I tend to agree with you.

Most changes in the camera market whether it be a camera/phone or DSLR is so minute that the increase in quality can only be measured with test equipment..

 

[P_Devil]

Hands down my 4s iphone took better photos in dark areas than my Galaxy S5 does.

Then you are using your S5 wrong. My S5 takes better low light pictures than my iPhone 5 ever did. The only camera aspect my iPhone 5 has produced better shots with is its front facing camera compared to my S5's front facing camera. That was until I disabled beauty mode on my S5, now they all look fine and not heavily processed.

 

[black_thorne]

Then you are using your S5 wrong. My S5 takes better low light pictures than my iPhone 5 ever did. The only camera aspect my iPhone 5 has produced better shots with is its front facing camera compared to my S5's front facing camera. That was until I disabled beauty mode on my S5, now they all look fine and not heavily processed.

Lol. Because there's so many custom controls on a phone camera.

 

[msavic6]

Lol. Because there's so many custom controls on a phone camera.

Exactly, it's hard to "mess" up a photo on a smartphone unless your composition is horrific and you shoot directly into the sunlight or your hand shakes during the shot.

Some people on these forums have a hard time admitting specific aspects of the S5 are lacking in comparison to other devices.

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[anon(9126477)]

I have photos I've taken with an old CoolPix 3MP camera and the photos look better than the S5 ,5S and 6/6+

It has more to do with how you use it and experience in knowing how to use it.

 

[P_Devil]

Lol. Because there's so many custom controls on a phone camera.

There are actually tons of options with the S5's camera. My point is that the iPhone 5 featured a better camera than the iPhone 4S yet I've continually taken better shots with my S5 even in low light conditions. I'm not delving deep into the S5's settings either, just messing around with HDR mode (on-screen HDR correction is something Apple needs to do) and anti-shake mode. Both produce better low light shots than my iPhone 5 did with HDR enabled. It was particularly evident for me when I was comparing photos taken at a concert.

 

[black_thorne]

There are actually tons of options with the S5's camera. My point is that the iPhone 5 featured a better camera than the iPhone 4S yet I've continually taken better shots with my S5 even in low light conditions. I'm not delving deep into the S5's settings either, just messing around with HDR mode (on-screen HDR correction is something Apple needs to do) and anti-shake mode. Both produce better low light shots than my iPhone 5 did with HDR enabled. It was particularly evident for me when I was comparing photos taken at a concert.

Could you please list the tons of custom controls the phone camera has?

 

[P_Devil]

Could you please list the tons of custom controls the phone camera has?

HDR mode, picture stabilization, selective focus, face detection, ISO settings, burst shots, image size, exposure settings, white balance settings, and various other effects. It's more than what Google offers in their camera app and more than what my iPhone 5 offered.

 

[msavic6]

HDR mode, picture stabilization, selective focus, face detection, ISO settings, burst shots, image size, exposure settings, white balance settings, and various other effects. It's more than what Google offers in their camera app and more than what my iPhone 5 offered.

Out of all of those listed, only three will have an effect on low light image quality.

- Picture Stabilization which is Samsung's method of concealing the physical weaknesses of the sensor by taking multiple shots and fusing them together in an effort to create a better resulting image.

- ISO Settings are a joke on the S5, sure they may make the image brighter but the ISOCELL sensor is terrible in dealing with ISO and thus increases noise and grain tremendously at "higher" ISO settings. The result is worse image quality but a marginally brighter shot.

The camera on a smartphone should be sufficiently capable of capturing spur of the moment shots with decent quality. There is no point in me having to set up my smartphone and then adjust multiple settings in an effort to produce a marginally better shot. The chances of me getting the shot using this method is next to none, things don't exactly stand still and wait for you.

If you have ever used an HTC One M7/M8, you know the ease of taking good low light shots, the phone focuses in a split second and takes the shot without any delay. Sure the resolution may not be all that high but for spur of the moment shots with good consistency, it is hard to beat.

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[shanghaichica]

Out of all of those listed, only three will have an effect on low light image quality.

- Picture Stabilization which is Samsung's method of concealing the physical weaknesses of the sensor by taking multiple shots and fusing them together in an effort to create a better resulting image.

- ISO Settings are a joke on the S5, sure they may make the image brighter but the ISOCELL sensor is terrible in dealing with ISO and thus increases noise and grain tremendously at "higher" ISO settings. The result is worse image quality but a marginally brighter shot.

The camera on a smartphone should be sufficiently capable of capturing spur of the moment shots with decent quality. There is no point in me having to set up my smartphone and then adjust multiple settings in an effort to produce a marginally better shot. The chances of me getting the shot using this method is next to none, things don't exactly stand still and wait for you.

If you have ever used an HTC One M7/M8, you know the ease of taking good low light shots, the phone focuses in a split second and takes the shot without any delay. Sure the resolution may not be all that high but for spur of the moment shots with good consistency, it is hard to beat.

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I don't really take a lot of low light photos but I've never had to mess around with the settings to get a good picture. I've been pleased with all the pictures I've taken with my S5. It's never let me down yet.

Posted from my S5

 

[msavic6]

I don't really take a lot of low light photos but I've never had to mess around with the settings to get a good picture. I've been pleased with all the pictures I've taken with my S5. It's never let me down yet.

Posted from my S5

In Daylight, the S5 is a great performer, the issues begin to arise in indoor conditions where there is artificial lighting.

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