Question How to stop Android phones making sideways photos by saving rotation data in EXIF?

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I believe it was Apple who introduced this annoyance when Iphones came out, since that's where I first saw it, suddenly everyone using an Iphone was emailing me sideways photos, posting sideways photos to classified ads to sell their car etc. Turns out some fool came up with an idea to not bother rotating the image to portrait/landscape when saving it, but putting in a marker to let the viewing program do the hard work later. Well not every program obeys it, yes even new ones. It's driving me round the twist. I correct it in one program only to find it wrong in another. I've found a workaround to change the EXIF command in a folder of files to true rotation (a program called Jpeg Autorotate), but I'd like to stop it at the source. Can I tell my Android phone to stop doing this nonsense?
 

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I think it has more to do with what orientation the phone was in when the shot was taken. If the phone's accelerometer last thought the phone was in landscape, then the photo will be saved in that orientation. Where this tends to save the "wrong" way is when taking photos of something from above (which is common when preparing to sell an item) -- if the phone is held that way, it's harder for the accelerometer to figure out which way is down. So when taking a photo like that, make sure to point the camera forward first so that the phone knows which orientation you want, then point it down.
 

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The phone saves it the "right way". My problem is older programs on the PC which don't follow the new jpeg format - the lazy way of always saving in landscape then placing a marker to say it should be the other way round. I want the phone to save it the proper traditional way.
 

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True, but you can connect a 40" external display!😁

I actually use my Chromebooks for about 99% of my computing. Granted, I'm not a coder nor a hardcore gamer, but as what might be considered an above-average user, it completely suits my needs. One of my favorite things about Chromebooks is not having to worry at all about malware and keeping up with antivirus programs.👍
 

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I don't see the point in using a portable device for my home computing. I have a decent Android phone for going out (satnav, playing games and internet searches on holiday, etc.) But why use that when I have a desktop here?

There are no more viruses on a PC than a tablet.
 

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I don't see the point in using a portable device for my home computing. I have a decent Android phone for going out (satnav, playing games and internet searches on holiday, etc.) But why use that when I have a desktop here?

There are no more viruses on a PC than a tablet.
Ah, so you're a ChromeBox guy!

To be honest, much as I'm not a Chromebook fan, I'd say the vast majority of windows and Mac users also have a laptop as their main computer. And unless you're gaming and or doing some really heavy lifting work, a laptop and docking station is a very workable option these days.
 

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No, I don't have a chromebook, what made you think so?

No, I use a desktop at home, then a mobile phone if I go out. A laptop is for commuting on trains. I have no need to move this desktop, it doesn't need to be portable. When I go out, I don't need access to everything, I use the phone as a tool - satnav, spirit level, playing games while waiting for someone, etc.
 

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There are no more viruses on a PC than a tablet.
True, but I'm talking about ChromeOS, not Android tablets in general (which is what I assume you're referencing?). There are essentially no viruses to worry about when using ChromeOS, since it's a sandboxed environment, and hence no need to install any kind of antivirus. This is not the case for Windows, whose ecosystem is still teeming with nasties -- most of which can be avoided using an up-to-date Windows Defender and common sense, but it's still always advisable to use that antivirus shield, and no matter how much common sense you use, there's still always a chance that something slips through (like from a very well-disguised email link).
 

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How can it be sandboxed? I thought that meant running temporarily? So how do you install apps and use them tomorrow?

AV updates itself, and only an idiot clicks a dodgy email link. Even if you do, you need to download then run an exe file to cause harm.
 

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If you want to read a detailed summary, see here: https://www.chromium.org/chromium-o...,encryption, and intuitive account management.

Remember that ChromeOS isn't like Windows where programs can be installed. The apps you can install on Chromebooks are Android apps (which are vetted by the Play Store -- it's difficult to impossible to sideload an app's apk, which is typically how a malicious Android app is installed).

You'd be surprised how many intelligent idiots out there click on dodgy email links -- that's how big companies grind to a halt due to a ransomware attack. And those dodgy emails are getting more and more convincing.

I get that Chromebooks aren't for everyone, but I'm just telling you why I like them and favor them over traditional Windows PCs or Macs.
 

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Restricting me to what I can install is a good way to put me off entirely. I often use an APK to install on my Android phone. Not everyone can afford to pay the play store to put their app inside.

But that's not what sandboxing means.

I don't care for idiots. Those emails are not convincing in any way.
 

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Restricting me to what I can install is a good way to put me off entirely. I often use an APK to install on my Android phone. Not everyone can afford to pay the play store to put their app inside.

But that's not what sandboxing means.

I don't care for idiots. Those emails are not convincing in any way.
You don't have to pay to put an app on the play store. Sandboxing means that something is separated, not temporary.

But I suspect you already know these things.
 
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Well, I won't belabor this discussion. Suffice it to say that ChromeOS works exceedingly well for me, but is not your cup of tea.

BTW, here's an interesting article that shows that even savvy tech specialists can fall for phishing and malicious emails: https://www.techradar.com/news/even-highly-skilled-it-professionals-fall-prey-to-phishing-attacks

There are a lot of tech specialists without a brain. Most admins for example are power hungry nutters with OCD who won't let their users change the desktop wallpaper.

You don't have to pay to put an app on the play store. Sandboxing means that something is separated, not temporary.

But I suspect you already know these things.

Of course you have to pay, Google is in it for the money, and they run the servers you download from. I know of someone who wrote a program and doesn't put it on for that reason.

But we've already established it's not seperated. Let me explain. I'm currently running a sandbox (not to keep it seperate, but because it's Linux under Windows). Everything in Linux is inside that virtual machine, it cannot possibly write to anything outside it. That is not what we're talking about here, which is just vetting of apps.
 
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