HTC has until May 1st for me

[alus415]

This might come off as a rant ...

My heart is set on a HTC One , even though I know the S4 will be a slightly better phone , I still want the One. Now we know that it will be released on April 19th for ATT and Sprint but what about Tmobile customers? We signed up for the $100 trade offer and it expires on April 24th/26th? I went to a Tmobile store today to ask about the phone again and the rep told me that it's looking like May for the phone to release. So do we get screwed? I basically now decided if by May 1st there is no HTC One , I will just walk into a Tmobile store and buy the S4.

Granted we don't know why exactly the HTC One has not had an official release date, could be HTC's shortages and thinking Tmo is not a top tier carrier, it could be that it's Tmobile holding off the phone as they are releaseing the Iphone5 and want all that attention to that phone, but the fact remains is that us customers interested on the HTC One on Tmobile can't order it or know exactly when it's coming out.

So there you have it HTC , you have until May 1st or I'm going to give Samsung my money (something that I should do anyways since it's a better phone except for the look) . I'm afraid I'm not going to be the only one after May 1st thinking the same.

 

[Acelx]

For one... The phone isn't going to be released May 1st since T-Mobile announce that it will sell the Galaxy S4 May 1st.

Two... I heard people saying that the phone will be available to pre-order on the 19th.. With release date being 25th.. Which I hardly find to be true..because Just a week worth of pre-orders ?

Three.. The promotion has change 3 or 4 times now, so nothing is final until a release date is announce.

 

[Topgonzo]

T mobile has officially given up on being a top tier cell phone company when they did away with traditional contracts. This idea of paying 20 a month to a phone for 2 years it's crazy! Who keeps their phone 2 years to pay it off anyways? Then the pricing is confusing and service is not the best. I used to love them not sure why they are changing things up. They should release it with Sprint and at&t.

Sent from my amazing HTC ONE Quietly brilliant!

 

[scorpiodsu]

There were some articles posted yesterday saying T-Mobile date is the 19th as well.

http://androidcommunity.com/t-mobile-htc-one-release-date-pegged-for-april-19-20130408/

 

[scorpiodsu]

T mobile has officially given up on being a top tier cell phone company when they did away with traditional contracts. This idea of paying 20 a month to a phone for 2 years it's crazy! Who keeps their phone 2 years to pay it off anyways? Then the pricing is confusing and service is not the best. I used to love them not sure why they are changing things up. They should release it with Sprint and at&t.

Sent from my amazing HTC ONE Quietly brilliant!

Lol. "Normal" consumers do keep their device. And for some it may make sense. A person can pay 99 down on a phone then 50+20 monthly for unlimited service and the charge for their phone. Or $70 for the same service with a contract and got the phone for $200. For some it would be advantageous. It's not like those contract plans are the same price in all cases. As far as the service goes, to each it's own. A person can decide what's sufficient for them.

 

[siczek.p]

Lol. "Normal" consumers do keep their device. And for some it may make sense. A person can pay 99 down on a phone then 50+20 monthly for unlimited service and the charge for their phone. Or $70 for the same service with a contract and got the phone for $200. For some it would be advantageous. It's not like those contract plans are the same price in all cases. As far as the service goes, to each it's own. A person can decide what's sufficient for them.

Exactly. It's an interest free loan that can be paid off at any time. Better for cash flow than paying full price all at once.

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[frellingfrakker]

To the OP - why do you think the S4 will be a better phone?

 

[maerlim]

FYI, the HTC $100 trade offer is currently set to expire April 30th. It was extended past April 26th. If T-Mobile's release date is much past the 19th, I would expect to see the deadline get extended to allow T-Mobile customers in on the action.

 

[adriandb]

T mobile has officially given up on being a top tier cell phone company when they did away with traditional contracts.

Actually they're taking the necessary steps to do away with standard contracts. I'd much rather buy my device at full price than get gouged by my provider.

This idea of paying 20 a month to a phone for 2 years it's crazy! Who keeps their phone 2 years to pay it off anyways?

The vast majority of people keep their phones for at least two years, many keep them longer. This is where carriers make a ton of money as you're essentially paying off your device in the first two years on a standard contract, yet they don't decrease your fees if you don't upgrade in year three. And how is this different than a standard contract really? You can get a new device after a year if you want, you just pay off the remaining amount due on the first device and it's yours.

Their pricing is only mildly more complicated for the average consumer and for the informed consumer it makes a hell of a lot more sense.

 

[alus415]

To the OP - why do you think the S4 will be a better phone?

I don't want to turn this to a Samsung vs HTC thread , I'm a phone enthusiat not a fanboy but there is no denying that samsung phones have been superior to HTC phones. I have owned a HTC EVO--Samsung Galaxy S Epic - Galaxy S2 -HTC OneX -- Galaxy S3- Iphone 5 in that order and the Evo sucked in the screen and battery department , but the Galaxy phones have always worked well and each iteration has gotten better. The HTC OneX was nice but small battery and no SD card ... in spite of the shortcomings I still want the HTC One simply because of its looks.

But you asked me how i know that the S4 will be better? it's simple:

Processor faster clocks = S4
RAM - DDR5 - S4 vs DDR2 HTC = S4
5 vs 4'7 screen = S4 ( i have used all the Samsung Galaxies and like the Amoled screens )
Size = S4 it's actually smaller
13 MP camera vs 4 MP = Samsung
2600 vs 2300 battery = Samsung
Removable Battery = Samsung
SD Card Slot = Samsung
XDA dev support = Samsung
Touchwiz vs Sense ( i know this is subjective, I prefer touchwiz but willing to try sense again in the HTC One)
Design = HTC
Updates = Samsung simply beats HTC at this ...and the reasons go on and on...


And I still want the HTC One , I really like the way it looks. I sold my iphone 5 (last phone I had) to buy the HTC One , I'm using a flip phone waiting to buy the One but Tmobile/HTC are botching this release with delays. I don't want be w/o a smartphone for more than a month. Basically if by May 1st no HTC on Tmobile S4 it is.

 

[jasonaward]

Processor faster clocks = S4
RAM - DDR5 - S4 vs DDR2 HTC = S4
5 vs 4'7 screen = S4 ( i have used all the Samsung Galaxies and like the Amoled screens )
Size = S4 it's actually smaller
13 MP camera vs 4 MP = Samsung
2600 vs 2300 battery = Samsung
Removable Battery = Samsung
SD Card Slot = Samsung
XDA dev support = Samsung
Touchwiz vs Sense ( i know this is subjective, I prefer touchwiz but willing to try sense again in the HTC One)
Design = HTC
Updates = Samsung simply beats HTC at this ...and the reasons go on and on...

And the reality is that 99% of average consumers couldn't care less about any of these qualities. If you compared the S4 to an iPhone, well, let's be honest, the S4 wins in specs, but plenty of people still blindly buy iPhones, because they perceive it to be a "better" device.

 

[Russ Smith]

I don't want to turn this to a Samsung vs HTC thread , I'm a phone enthusiat not a fanboy but there is no denying that samsung phones have been superior to HTC phones. I have owned a HTC EVO--Samsung Galaxy S Epic - Galaxy S2 -HTC OneX -- Galaxy S3- Iphone 5 in that order and the Evo sucked in the screen and battery department , but the Galaxy phones have always worked well and each iteration has gotten better. The HTC OneX was nice but small battery and no SD card ... in spite of the shortcomings I still want the HTC One simply because of its looks.

But you asked me how i know that the S4 will be better? it's simple:

Processor faster clocks = S4
RAM - DDR5 - S4 vs DDR2 HTC = S4
5 vs 4'7 screen = S4 ( i have used all the Samsung Galaxies and like the Amoled screens )
Size = S4 it's actually smaller
13 MP camera vs 4 MP = Samsung
2600 vs 2300 battery = Samsung
Removable Battery = Samsung
SD Card Slot = Samsung
XDA dev support = Samsung
Touchwiz vs Sense ( i know this is subjective, I prefer touchwiz but willing to try sense again in the HTC One)
Design = HTC
Updates = Samsung simply beats HTC at this ...and the reasons go on and on...


And I still want the HTC One , I really like the way it looks. I sold my iphone 5 (last phone I had) to buy the HTC One , I'm using a flip phone waiting to buy the One but Tmobile/HTC are botching this release with delays. I don't want be w/o a smartphone for more than a month. Basically if by May 1st no HTC on Tmobile S4 it is.

TBH sounds like the S4 is for you, I can come up with a list I like about the One...because I prefer it.

Sent from my HTC One

 

[alus415]

TBH sounds like the S4 is for you, I can come up with a list I like about the One...because I prefer it.

Sent from my HTC One

I should get the S4 but I decided I want the ONE , I think it looks amazing and the reasons I listed about the S4 are not a factor for me. I was simply replying to someone that asked how do we know that the S4 its better, well on paper it looks better. I wished T mobile had announced the release date and I could just have ordered it, but I'm afraid it's going to be until May .

 

[Suda]

Isn't the One through Best Buy available starting April 19th? Or did Best Buy cancel pre-orders?

 

[adriandb]

If you compared the S4 to an iPhone, well, let's be honest, the S4 wins in specs, but plenty of people still blindly buy iPhones, because they perceive it to be a "better" device.

It isn't necessarily blind and for many the iPhone is a better device. Until the last 4 weeks or so the iPhone, iOS and the entire Apple ecosystem was a far better product for me than anything on the Android side. I've reevaluated that and am eagerly awaiting my One now. My point is that a spec sheet isn't the totality of the decision, it isn't even the most important factor. People will claim that iOS users are just blind to a "better" device or OS, but honestly if you hand someone an iPhone 5 and a Galaxy S3 and ask them which they prefer and they tell you they like the iPhone how can you tell them they're wrong?

 

[Aquila]

Actually they're taking the necessary steps to do away with standard contracts. I'd much rather buy my device at full price than get gouged by my provider.


The vast majority of people keep their phones for at least two years, many keep them longer. This is where carriers make a ton of money as you're essentially paying off your device in the first two years on a standard contract, yet they don't decrease your fees if you don't upgrade in year three. And how is this different than a standard contract really? You can get a new device after a year if you want, you just pay off the remaining amount due on the first device and it's yours.

Their pricing is only mildly more complicated for the average consumer and for the informed consumer it makes a hell of a lot more sense.

This is a great idea for consumers being that it's an interest free loan (I assume you can pay it off early if you want). Assume the phone is $599 (for example), you pay $99 down, $500 to pay off over 2 years. If you take that $500 and put it in a bank account with 5% interest (again, for example) and pay the $20/month out of that account (withdraw $20 per month), at the end of 2 years, you have around $46 in the bank (I'm estimating) in earned interest on your own capital...

This is the same reason people should minimize tax withholdings from their paychecks and save the difference, that way you are earning interest on your money instead of a company/government earning interest off of you giving them a loan early and without interest. This way, while you have to pay more in at the end of the year (than you would if they withheld the max, etc), you're making money and have something more to show for it at the end of the period. If you figure you owe $2400 in taxes per year (for easy numbers) and have them withhold as close to 0 as possible, you then would put $200 per month in savings into an account (again, assume 5% interest) and by my estimate, at the end of the year, you have an extra $310 or so that you wouldn't otherwise have.

 

[ksavaiano]

Isn't the One through Best Buy available starting April 19th? Or did Best Buy cancel pre-orders?

To my knowledge my Best Buy pre order was not cancelled i went and did it in-store and they said they would send me an email when the phone is in stock at their store. Which theoretically would be the 19th

 

[SeanBlader]

Processor faster clocks = S4 (battery killer)
RAM - DDR5 - S4 vs DDR2 HTC = S4 (battery killer)
5 vs 4'7 screen = S4 ( i have used all the Samsung Galaxies and like the Amoled screens ) (battery killer)
Size = S4 it's actually smaller (needs evidence)
13 MP camera vs 4 MP = Samsung (marketing falacy)
2600 vs 2300 battery = Samsung (better weight on HTC, bigger battery doesn't help if you drain it with hardware)
Removable Battery = Samsung (not relevant with HTC battery life)
SD Card Slot = Samsung (not relevant on 32gb or 64gb device)
XDA dev support = Samsung (not relevant on 64gb developer phone)
Touchwiz vs Sense ( i know this is subjective, I prefer touchwiz but willing to try sense again in the HTC One) (It's android, you can replace either)
Design = HTC
Updates = Samsung simply beats HTC at this ...and the reasons go on and on... (there's provable evidence that HTC does this better on average)

Turns out that all your suggested reasons the S4 is better aren't very valid. Sorry dude.

 

[return_0]

T mobile has officially given up on being a top tier cell phone company when they did away with traditional contracts. This idea of paying 20 a month to a phone for 2 years it's crazy! Who keeps their phone 2 years to pay it off anyways? Then the pricing is confusing and service is not the best. I used to love them not sure why they are changing things up. They should release it with Sprint and at&t.

Sent from my amazing HTC ONE Quietly brilliant!

Would you rather pay $20/month extra on T-Mobile for your phone or pay $50/month extra on any other carrier for the expensive as heck plan?

 

[return_0]

I don't want to turn this to a Samsung vs HTC thread , I'm a phone enthusiat not a fanboy but there is no denying that samsung phones have been superior to HTC phones. I have owned a HTC EVO--Samsung Galaxy S Epic - Galaxy S2 -HTC OneX -- Galaxy S3- Iphone 5 in that order and the Evo sucked in the screen and battery department , but the Galaxy phones have always worked well and each iteration has gotten better. The HTC OneX was nice but small battery and no SD card ... in spite of the shortcomings I still want the HTC One simply because of its looks.

But you asked me how i know that the S4 will be better? it's simple:

Processor faster clocks = S4
RAM - DDR5 - S4 vs DDR2 HTC = S4
5 vs 4'7 screen = S4 ( i have used all the Samsung Galaxies and like the Amoled screens )
Size = S4 it's actually smaller
13 MP camera vs 4 MP = Samsung
2600 vs 2300 battery = Samsung
Removable Battery = Samsung
SD Card Slot = Samsung
XDA dev support = Samsung
Touchwiz vs Sense ( i know this is subjective, I prefer touchwiz but willing to try sense again in the HTC One)
Design = HTC
Updates = Samsung simply beats HTC at this ...and the reasons go on and on...


And I still want the HTC One , I really like the way it looks. I sold my iphone 5 (last phone I had) to buy the HTC One , I'm using a flip phone waiting to buy the One but Tmobile/HTC are botching this release with delays. I don't want be w/o a smartphone for more than a month. Basically if by May 1st no HTC on Tmobile S4 it is.

I can see how you prefer the S4, but I have to point out that you can't say the S4's camera is better because it has more megapixels. Any camera expert (in fact, any informed customer these days) will tell you that megapixels barely matter for image quality. Even when blown up to a TV screen, S4 pictures will have no higher resolution because a full HD TV's screen is still 2MP.