HTC One M9 overheating issue FIXED via software update

[John Kar]

I drew no conclusion at all, I only gave the measured performance differences. There's a difference between giving calculations and coming up with an explanation based on some analysis.

To compare < 2 days worth of data against ~20 days worth of data and draw a conclusion doesn't sound realistic. The disparity in the sample size is pretty significant, so it doesn't matter what approach is taken to compile the data IF the goal is to reach a conclusion. Also there are so many factors that can impact the results of a synthetic benchmark test, that using these numbers alone for making such a determination is kind of odd.

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I don't understand this reasoning. It's not like the benchmark's expected value and standard deviation will change if we wait a few more days. We already have a good sample size.

 

[bigrey81]

Really? Because I just tried the S6 yesterday and it is by far the smoothest phone I've EVER used. It even beats the iPhone in terms of smoothness.

There are people talking about it on reddit: Bestbuy with Samsung experience getting Galaxy S6 3/28 for display : Android

Okay so get the S6 when it comes out and be done with it

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[Adam_ation]

Okay so get the S6 when it comes out and be done with it

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Well said! He already is getting the S6 and has been for months, he doesn't care for the HTC M9 at all.

The reason why he doesn't want to use anything other than his method of analysing the data is because its the method that makes the M9 appear the worst.

He even admitted on XDA that he was spreading FUD about "overheating" issues because he "enjoyed the drama".

Benchmarks mean very little in regard to everyday use and there is no doubt in my mind that the M9 will be top of the pile when it comes to smoothness and user experience - Adam

 

[John Kar]

Well said! He already is getting the S6 and has been for months, he doesn't care for the HTC M9 at all.

The reason why he doesn't want to use anything other than his method of analysing the data is because its the method that makes the M9 appear the worst.

He even admitted on XDA that he was spreading FUD about "overheating" issues because he "enjoyed the drama".

Benchmarks mean very little in regard to everyday use and there is no doubt in my mind that the M9 will be top of the pile when it comes to smoothness and user experience - Adam

I don't have an account on xda. Nice try.

Also, I'm NOT getting the S6 or S6 Edge. I'm waiting for the S7/S7 Edge, which should have Samsung's custom CPU and GPU cores.
As it stands, this year is a dud in terms of battery life for all OEMs thanks to that power-hungry reference ARMv8 core.

I can't wait to see what Samsung does with their custom Exynos CPU and GPU.

 

[dann127]

I don't understand this reasoning. It's not like the benchmark's expected value and standard deviation will change if we wait a few more days. We already have a good sample size.

You claim we have a good sample size. We claim we don't. Agree to disagree?

Another issue I have with this is that they went from averaging somewhere between 4 and 7 tests power day for a while. Suddenly they hit the 18th and they're running more than 50. Why the sudden change? Did their testing method change or did they always run the test 50ish times and just cherry picked 5 or so good results?

Again I'm not saying they did but the sudden change doesn't make any sense and I don't see any explanation as to why it happened.

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[Adam_ation]

I don't have an account on xda. Nice try.

Yeah because you got banned on XDA this morning for spreading FUD haha, now hopefully AC will follow suit - Adam

 

[anon(5862363)]

Really? Because I just tried the S6 yesterday and it is by far the smoothest phone I've EVER used. It even beats the iPhone in terms of smoothness.

S4 was fast too when it was brand new. Few months later TouchWiz got so slow it was a nightmare to use! I hope S6 is different, but I, personally, not coming anywhere near it.

 

[John Kar]

S4 was fast too when it was brand new. Few months later TouchWiz got so slow it was a nightmare to use! I hope S6 is different, but I, personally, not coming anywhere near it.

New TW isn't like old TW. Samsung reprogrammed their UI from the ground-up. Are you trying to find a reason to hate the S6?
I mean, at least I have valid reasons for hating the M9 ranging from worse screen to worse battery life, but everything you and other htc fans say about the S6 are unsubstantiated speculations.

 

[anon(5862363)]

New TW isn't like old TW. Samsung reprogrammed their UI from the ground-up. Are you trying to find a reason to hate the S6?
I mean, at least I have valid reasons for hating the M9 ranging from worse screen to worse battery life, but everything you and other htc fans say about the S6 are unsubstantiated speculations.

I'm not trying to find anything. I'm just speaking from experience. S4 got slow. S5 got slow. I never owned a Note 4 (but played with one at the store) and saw TouchWiz lag. If Samsung rewrote touchwiz from ground up for S6 and it is much better then anything before it I will be only happy! And If they did improve it, that's AWESOME! But only time will tell...

I, personally, never owned an HTC phone before, but from what I've read, and videos I watched, no one complains about Sense UI suffering from slowness and lag on neither M7 or M8. So I have a good reason to believe M9 will be smooth as well.

 

[John Kar]

I'm not trying to find anything. I'm just speaking from experience. S4 got slow. S5 got slow. I never owned a Note 4 (but played with one at the store) and saw TouchWiz lag. If Samsung rewrote touchwiz from ground up for S6 and it is much better then anything before it I will be only happy! And If they did improve it, that's AWESOME! But only time will tell...

I, personally, never owned an HTC phone before, but from what I've read, and videos I watched, no one complains about Sense UI suffering from slowness and lag on neither M7 or M8. So I have a good reason to believe M9 will be smooth as well.

Which has no bearing regarding the new TW, as it's reprogrammed from the ground-up.

Oh, and the S6 is smoother than any htc phone. You can believe that.

 

[anon(5862363)]

Which has no bearing regarding the new TW, as it's reprogrammed from the ground-up.

Oh, and the S6 is smoother than any htc phone. You can believe that.

Yes. I agree with you. But I'm not paying 700+ dollars for something that had issues before. I will only believe it when I see it. Few months later I might change my mind.

 

[markymark]

New TW isn't like old TW. Samsung reprogrammed their UI from the ground-up. Are you trying to find a reason to hate the S6?
I mean, at least I have valid reasons for hating the M9 ranging from worse screen to worse battery life, but everything you and other htc fans say about the S6 are unsubstantiated speculations.

Dude, relax. He's just relaying his experience with Touchwiz. Your mileage may vary. Seriously, you "hate" the M9? You understand it's just a phone right? So everything HTC "fans" say about the S6 are "unsubstantiated speculations". But you know for a fact that the M9 has a worse screen and worse battery life? That's a neat trick since the phone isn't being released for another 3 weeks.

 

[John Kar]

Yes. I agree with you. But I'm not paying 700+ dollars for something that had issues before. I will only believe it when I see it. Few months later I might change my mind.

You don't have to buy the S6.
I'm just saying to be more open-minded. You can't use prior experience with TW, which was bloated and layered on-top of gingerbread source code, to determine your experiences with the new TW.

Dude, relax. He's just relaying his experience with Touchwiz. Your mileage may vary. Seriously, you "hate" the M9? You understand it's just a phone right? So everything HTC "fans" say about the S6 are "unsubstantiated speculations". But you know for a fact that the M9 has a worse screen and worse battery life? That's a neat trick since the phone isn't being released for another 3 weeks.

Yeah. I mean, I hate a lot of products that don't suit my needs or meet my expectations. I hate the S3 and the S4, and now I hate the M9 as well.
It's not like my blood boils and I get emotionally hurt every time I hear the word "M9" like how Apple fans get when they hear the word "Samsung". I just don't like it.

 

[dann127]

This exactly. Everything HTC fans say about the S6 is baseless speculation but everything he posts about the M9 is a "fact" despite the phone not being released for another few weeks.

Do we have a source for TouchWiz being redesigned from the ground do up? I haven't heard this and am genuinely curious as to if this is actually the case.

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[markymark]

You don't have to buy the S6.
I'm just saying to be more open-minded. You can't use prior experience with TW, which was bloated and layered on-top of gingerbread source code, to determine your experiences with the new TW.

ROFL....you have to admit this statement is dripping with irony.....

Yeah. I mean, I hate a lot of products that don't suit my needs or meet my expectations. I hate the S3 and the S4, and now I hate the M9 as well.
It's not like my blood boils and I get emotionally hurt every time I hear the word "M9" like how Apple fans get when they hear the word "Samsung". I just don't like it.

Not sure who these Apple fans are. My whole family (except for me) are iPhone users and they have no reaction at all to the word "samsung". In fact, I don't think I've ever met or heard of anyone who gets emotionally hurt when they hear the word"'samsung". But you seem to have quite a reaction to the words "Apple" and "M9". Hmmm....

 

[Premium1]

Wonder if its going to be super throttled like the g flex 2? Hopefully not because there seems to be a lot of performance issues with that device.

 

[dann127]

Please point me to one comment where someone said they wanted kill someone for the placement of the audio jack. Let's not make things up.

We don't know anything officially until the device has been released. Please stop pretending everything you've seen is fact when the final device hasn't been released yet.

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[Aquila]

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[Aquila]

Ok, we're back. Let's remember two things:

1. We discuss (civilly) issues, not people.
2. Trolling is stupid.

Thanks everyone.

 

[benny3]

The thing with benchmarks are you can have 5 devices and all 5 will score different. All devices are not built equal. I have seen so many times where one phone you can overclock to the max and the next phone you can't overclock at all. For me benchmarks dont carry any weight, Its the everyday use and how well it operates.