HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs for i

[Jerry2007]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

Days. I would frankly be surprised if there are not units walking out of Sprint stores on Friday, but obviously I am speculating like the rest of you. It may linger into early next week, but assuming the phones are already produced and stateside, HTC will get the injunction overturned (or countersue Apple for patent infringement on another simiarly worthless patent, at which point they'll both settle) and move on.

Sprint will not lose any significant face from this situation. Even though there are a dozen or so techies on this forum, and a handful of other similar forums on the interwebs, who are upset over the situation, I would be surprised if it is more than a few hundred in total. 95% of people who buy phones go into a store, pick the pretty one, and walk out. The Evo LTE isn't even a demo model in the store yet. Nobody knows about it but us. And, as previously pointed out - people are taking it like petulant toddlers.

Upset over things like not getting a phone "first". I think people miss the point of what a pre-order is, it doesn't mean you get it early. Plus, another story that just recently that WILL cause a carrier to lose some face is that Verizon is cutting off their grandfathered in unlimited customers and will force them to go to tiered plans like everyone else. That's a story to be upset about, not a phone being delayed and mad about not ALREADY having it when the release date hasn't even passed yet. Like George Carlin says, calm down, have some dip.

 

[imranmali3]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

Sorry I am not a logistics guy, what does "Pick and Pack" mean?

 

[houstonwino]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

Did they? So there were no patent lawsuits before the iPhone?

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums

Not a big fan of comparing *ahem* apples to apples, eh?

 

[Ry]

That logic creates a false equivalency between frivolous and nonsensical suits by Apple, and the counter-suits filed in defense by those they attack. Plus, I said that it is 100% correct to blame Apple, not that they deserve 100% of the blame, and in fact, I conceded that the system is screwed up.

Apple is out to destroy Google because it's founder got his panties all in a bunch because he was shocked to find out that Google wasn't a wholly-owned subsidiary of his company. The same way he was out to destroy Adobe via Flash over a decades old font dispute. Attrition through litigation was his weapon, and still is Apple's. Jobs was a vindictive messiah, his followers still are.

If Google is out to destroy Apple, it is by creating better technology. The funny thing is, without Google's technology, Apple would be even more limited than it already is.

So it's not 100% correct to blame the system that allowed Apple to be in the position they're in with regards to this situation. If the patents are valid, how can this issue be frivolous?

Every company has the right to fight for the patents they own.

HTC was ruled against.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums

 

[houstonwino]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

So it's not 100% correct to blame the system that allowed Apple to be in the position they're in with regards to this situation.

Every company has the right to fight for the patents they own.

HTC was ruled against.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums

And HTC claims to have abided by the ruling, yet our phones are in limbo and Apple's competitors have been dealt a harsh blow. How does that work for you?

 

[Ry]

Not a big fan of comparing *ahem* apples to apples, eh?

Show me that smartphone platforms before iOS and Android were never attacked by lawsuits.

You can't really say Apple started this if there is a history of legal battles in the smatphone space prior to iOS vs. Android.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums

 

[houstonwino]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

Show me that smartphone platforms before iOS and Android were never attacked by lawsuits.

You can't really say Apple started this if there is a history of legal battles in the smatphone space prior to iOS vs. Android.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums

Um, you can't say that Blackberry started the war between Apple and Google either...and it is just about as pertinent.

 

[Saphira]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

Just a curious question. One shipment got stopped, but has a court told HTC to stop bringing these phones in?

I'm just thinking with all the stuff that comes in and out of the USA daily customs can't catch all the phones. One shipment did get through since some people are getting phones, won't HTC just keep trying to ship them in?

It's what I would do if I owned a company, keep trying to get my product to my customers while fighting the battle in court. (but maybe that's why I don't own a company?)

 

[EVO28312]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

What I'm unclear of is why now?? It passed through the fcc a long time ago and it has been selling on ATT. Can someone tell me how this actually works!? It just seems kind of odd they upheld it at customs days before releasing it. Can't wait for all of this to come out with official reports and answers.

 

[Ry]

Um, you can't say that Blackberry started the war between Apple and Google either...and it is just about as pertinent.

Of course BlackBerry didn't start iOS vs. Android, but smartphone companies suing other smartphone companies is business as usual.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums

 

[Raadius]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

When you pay money in THIS COUNTRY you don't get a excuse. You get what you paid for. If you don't like people a forum isn't a place to spend your time. For the record I'm a 28 yr old D-77 motor mechanic who loves HTC but did not pre-order this phone because I use Wimax everyday and need 4g but if I did pre order I'd tell Sprint to keep the200 and put it towards ETF and go to Verizon or AT&T who ALREADY HAS 4glte. A multibillion dollar corporation (HTC or sprint you choose) with a legal department full of lawyers who make at least double what I do should have foreseen this. Since when does a company with a legal department not keep up with current rulings and injunctions regarding said companys field of operations. A week after CITA this makes Sprint look like a joke. that $200 you guys paid for that phone I pay every month and for what. Crappy Wimax, the promise of a lte network that other carriers already have, a crappy 3g signal. Last I checked this was America and people can voice frustration. Again I didn't preorder this phone. But if that damn lte network was already up and running you can bet I would have, hence the reason I Watch this forum. And I'm not happy with sprint. when you pay $2400 a year on service plus an additional $400 or so on a new phone you can complain and ask for whatever the hell you want. You handle it your way and they'll deal with it in theirs. But if anyone wants to tell me this couldn't have been foreseen by either HTC or sprint I simply don't believe it. Even if the injunction was put into effect 2 days ago there is no legal ruling that can't be prepared for. The injunction didn't just drop out the sky. someone in some legal department should have been keeping Tabs on that case and someone at HTC should have had a contingency plan

Well said.

 

[houstonwino]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

What I'm unclear of is why now?? It passed through the fcc a long time ago and it has been selling on ATT. Can someone tell me how this actually works!? It just seems kind of odd they upheld it at customs days before releasing it. Can't wait for all of this to come out with official reports and answers.

Good question. I hope the Justice Department asks it too.

 

[Droid800]

Just a curious question. One shipment got stopped, but has a court told HTC to stop bringing these phones in?

I'm just thinking with all the stuff that comes in and out of the USA daily customs can't catch all the phones. One shipment did get through since some people are getting phones, won't HTC just keep trying to ship them in?

It's what I would do if I owned a company, keep trying to get my product to my customers while fighting the battle in court. (but maybe that's why I don't own a company?)

HTC already LOST the battle in court, so they had to remove the offending features.

Basically, what's happening now is that customs and the ITC are verifying that the infringing features have indeed been removed. They may have gotten a request or complaint from Apple to do so, or the ITC may be acting on its own to enforce the ruling.

In any case, HTC has known about this for MONTHS. That they have not either a) removed the infringing features or b) given the ITC proof that they are abiding by the ruling, is mind boggling. This one is ENTIRELY HTC's fault at this point.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

 

[houstonwino]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

Of course BlackBerry didn't start iOS vs. Android, but smartphone companies suing other smartphone companies is business as usual.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums

Ok, this is going nowhere. I'm pretty sure I made my point clearly and concisely already, and entering a circular argument about minutiae regarding tangential issues isn't likely to further it. I conceded your valid point long ago, and you certainly aren't furthering it this way either. With the mood I'm in right now, I'm going to bow out of this conversation and content myself with posting pics of rotten apples on Pinterest or some other mindless diversion to keep myself from standing outside of an Apple store slapping limited devices out of the hands of the faithful and stomping them (devices, not people) into tiny bits.

.

 

[photomikey]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

Sorry I am not a logistics guy, what does "Pick and Pack" mean?

Presumably that in a warehouse with a thousand tiny boxes, there is one with your name and address on it with a EVO LTE inside it and a postage stamp on it. They can't cancel your order because they would have to pick through a thousand identical boxes to find yours and rip your name off it.

It is the same feeling that you get when you missed the UPS man, and you can check the status on the tracking #, and it says your city and state, but it's locked in the warehouse that you could easily drive to, if you only had the keys to let yourself in and get your package.

 

[rls7709]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

"Pick and Pack"what does this mean. Are there phones in the warehouse?

 

[creighton]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

"Pick and pack" means packed in a boxes with shipping labels attached

 

[Saphira]

Thank you, I was wondering how this all started.

HTC already LOST the battle in court, so they had to remove the offending features.

Basically, what's happening now is that customs and the ITC are verifying that the infringing features have indeed been removed. They may have gotten a request or complaint from Apple to do so, or the ITC may be acting on its own to enforce the ruling.

In any case, HTC has known about this for MONTHS. That they have not either a) removed the infringing features or b) given the ITC proof that they are abiding by the ruling, is mind boggling. This one is ENTIRELY HTC's fault at this point.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

 

[ab304945]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

The patent system is totally screwed up.

There is know way you should be able to patent an action. I see the code yes, but not an action. Or a menu.

 

[Vysse]

Re: HTC One X and Evo 4G LTE indefinitely delayed at US Customs f

Did they? So there were no patent lawsuits before the iPhone?

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums

I meant between HTC and Apple... they filed the first lawsuit between the two companies and then HTC retaliated with several of it's own lawsuits. You took what I said and made it much broader than I had intended.