I hate the Pie update.

[Promytius]

look i simply need a purchased item to work as advertised. If they change things and screw it up, it is not on me to "fix" it with some sort of technical workarounds, like repartitioning etc. As a consumer I am outraged at their hubris in just changing things and not doing it successfully. As a home care provider, I need my phone to function perfectly every single time I use it. When they change things and things don't work right anymore, it's a BIG problem. I'm not a smartphone techy, nor do I want to be. So when I am babysitting for my granddaughter, I need a phone that will provide me with accurate information. Phantom Notifications do not help. Changing the ability to set individual notifications is crucial. Not being able to shut off the stupid/unnecessary Google notifications is disruptive; we've been extremely sick with the flu and communications between us and health care providers is a timely necessity and these 'notifications' that Google browser seems to think I need are frustrating; I'm waiting for a return call from the doctor and google wants me to - hey check out this new weather report.
Also there was zero info about the update provided to me, so all the time I take to try and figure out what else doesn't work is a waste of my precious time.
I'm not gaming or surfing or gambling or flirting or filling up a facebook page, I'm dealing with real world issues. And a badly functioning phone is a BIG PROBLEM.
Is that clearer?

 

[Golfdriver97]

Is that clearer?

Barely.

First, please calm down. We are all volunteers, and are not affiliated with Google, Samsung, or any other OEM.

Second, what phone do you have?

 

[SactoKingsFan]

Every phone I have on Pie has the ability to change notification settings for individual apps. Still not clear what phone you've been talking about.

 

[B. Diddy]

I still suspect we're dealing with a Samsung phone and the usual problems that come with their updates. If you go with a Pixel phone (this is a Pixel 2 & 2 XL subforum, after all), many of those problems would go away.

 

[EmpathyBadger]

For the posters that don't like the Pie, just fastboot flash back to Nougat or Oreo already and get on with your life.

I would love to, but HOW? Not a techie. For accessibility reasons, I really need to go back to Oreo.

 

[B. Diddy]

I would love to, but HOW? Not a techie. For accessibility reasons, I really need to go back to Oreo.

If, as we suspected with the other member, you're using a Samsung phone, you can use Odin to flash the previous firmware: http://forums.androidcentral.com/am...w-flash-stock-rom-via-odin-new-interface.html. However, the phone will still prompt you for system updates afterwards (and you might not be able to refuse forever), so you'd then have to root the phone and disable system updates (which is more advanced).

 

[Christ-chin]

Awful, the gestures are terrible so I switched back to the old way (hope Google doesn't do away with the three buttons in the future). The new swipe up to end apps is the worst thing in the world of Android mostly because if you don't go 90° straight up then you have to keep trying to close the apps. Straight garbage. Never been so disappointed before in an Android OS before. I may try and go back to Oreo.

GOOGLE STOP TRYING TO BE APPLE. APPLE IS TRASH FOR A REASON.

The rest is ok at best. But, for me, those two things out weigh the good.

I couldn't agree more. The aesthetics of this look like "a toddler was given crayons for the first time" to paraphrase someone on another forum. I'm very focused on the appearance of my phone, and this new update makes the samsung native apps look like trash. In addition, my keyboard, after activating full screen mode, has an awkward space in between the space bar and the bottom of the screen. This is despite the fact that messages is "optimized for full screen". This is to say nothing of the cards, instead of stacked apps, the clock in the upper left, etc. etc... I'm not a child, I don't want my theme looking like a 9 year olds, and I want my full screen phone to behave like a full screen phone.

 

[AmY AmZ]

I just received my update yesterday and yes, I am a Samsung user. This paragraph sums up what I have been saying since I received it. It is atrocious and does not fit with any of my themes, unless its the default theme. I've purchased a TON of themes from the Samsung Theme store and the elegant features that comes with these themes, now looks like complete child's play on a screen. Usually, I'm all about the new updates but this one is severely disappointing. I'd be okay with it, if it didn't have large bubbly spaces breaking up my screen - all being different shapes and colors on just about every screen I use. I'm all about customizing my phone but why should I have to run to Nova or Odin to keep things as they were? I was perfectly happy with what I was using?! I'm willing to try different things but this will not do. I appreciate the effort in letting us know how we can go about changing things back or how we can work around this mess. I would very much like to have the OS I was using before...I'm not a pro but I'm willing to learn how to do anything and be able to enjoy what I paid a lot of money to have.

I couldn't agree more. The aesthetics of this look like "a toddler was given crayons for the first time" to paraphrase someone on another forum. I'm very focused on the appearance of my phone, and this new update makes the samsung native apps look like trash. In addition, my keyboard, after activating full screen mode, has an awkward space in between the space bar and the bottom of the screen. This is despite the fact that messages is "optimized for full screen". This is to say nothing of the cards, instead of stacked apps, the clock in the upper left, etc. etc... I'm not a child, I don't want my theme looking like a 9 year olds, and I want my full screen phone to behave like a full screen phone.

 

[GSDer]

I would very much like to have the OS I was using before...I'm not a pro but I'm willing to learn how to do anything

Since you're familiar with using Odin I'd suggest loading the previous build of the OS and then just turn off OS automatic updates and you can have what you want.