I hate the Pie update.

Let me give you an example of why I close apps: when I'm working I need access to 4 apps on a continuous basis. So I go in and swipe away all the other apps (or simply 'Clear all' and then open the ones I need) so that when I use the 'Recents' button I can easily switch between the ones I need to utilize without all these other apps being in the queue. YMMV.

I have an example why to clear all apps
To check if anyone with your passcode goes through your phone, right before I close my phone..not all the time but when you suspect someone lol
 
I'm using the gestures... I see the point of it all. It's not gesture navigation, it's too get people to use the new Overview system. I haven't scrolled through my apps in months... There's no need to. The 5 suggested apps are often good options, and if not, tap the Google bar and type a few letters and there's ma appz.

So I can easily get to any app without dropping down to the home screen, easy access to search and a quick flip left or right to switch apps... This makes navigation easier and quicker.

Yes, you can get here with the square as well, but Google has said that people were not using the square shortcut much... And Google wants that Overview function to be a central hub of usage. So they moved it somewhere easier to get there.
 
I'm using the gestures... I see the point of it all. It's not gesture navigation, it's too get people to use the new Overview system. I haven't scrolled through my apps in months... There's no need to. The 5 suggested apps are often good options, and if not, tap the Google bar and type a few letters and there's ma appz.

So I can easily get to any app without dropping down to the home screen, easy access to search and a quick flip left or right to switch apps... This makes navigation easier and quicker.

Yes, you can get here with the square as well, but Google has said that people were not using the square shortcut much... And Google wants that Overview function to be a central hub of usage. So they moved it somewhere easier to get there.

Yup.....Google does a lot of research on all of their products.
 
Yup.....Google does a lot of research on all of their products.

Interface changes aside, pie sucks. 100s of users that I know have WiFi issues that are terrible. In Oreo you could force WiFi preferred calling, but in pie it's broke. Verizon confirmed this, and Google support observed but declined to confirm or deny. Also, in low cellular connection areas, you'll get LTE and show mobile data but no internet. Had that happen three times...others with iPhones 5 and 7, and Samsung Galaxy, all with Verizon had Internet. Not my $1000 Pixel 2 XL. I was going to switch to an iPhone, but gave it one more shot. Got a replacement from Verizon with Oreo and turned off updates. Runs perfect now. Pie sucks...don't believe it? Read the Google forums. From my perspective, pie is right there with Windows ME.
 
I have no real complaints with Pie...... but I came straight from nougat, so I have no experience with Oreo to compare with the other two. I've only been using it for less than a week, but I did a factory reset after the upgrade and my phone is working perfectly..... not a single issue to complain about. One thing I have noticed is the Bluetooth is a huge step up from nougat..... best Bluetooth I've ever used on an Android device. I'm not sure if that's a pixel thing or Pie thing but I like it!! :-D

I haven't bothered to turn the gestures on yet, too lazy to mess with them.... plus I'm used to the buttons. Maybe later lol.
 
I don't love pie either. I'm still not used to the side scrolling recent apps menu. It does not flow well in my opinion. I also do not care for the new brightness settings. Quick tip, you can set it to the settings you used in Oreo if you do it through Assistant.

That said, otherwise I don't have much to complain about. After a factory reset any issues I had went away. Battery life is solid and everything works pretty good.

I still wish Google would give us launcher customization and profiles for sound and other settings.
 
More features they trashed are the brightness and volume settings. For one, volume was better when you could down arrow real quick for alternate volumes. Not open a whole other window. I can deal with the weird side screen thing. The main issue is that there's absolutely no difference in volume between 1 and 30 percent. Brightness is even worse with basically no difference in brightness until around 80 percent.
 
For the posters that don't like the Pie, just fastboot flash back to Nougat or Oreo already and get on with your life. :cool:
 
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More features they trashed are the brightness and volume settings. For one, volume was better when you could down arrow real quick for alternate volumes. Not open a whole other window. I can deal with the weird side screen thing. The main issue is that there's absolutely no difference in volume between 1 and 30 percent. Brightness is even worse with basically no difference in brightness until around 80 percent.
The brightness is the one bugging me the most. Adaptive brightness isn't very adaptive. It's just bright. I actually downloaded a screen dimmer for night because the damn thing blinds me in the morning when I'm trying to turn off my alarm. The room is pitch black and it's at like 80.
 
The brightness is the one bugging me the most. Adaptive brightness isn't very adaptive. It's just bright. I actually downloaded a screen dimmer for night because the damn thing blinds me in the morning when I'm trying to turn off my alarm. The room is pitch black and it's at like 80.
One thing that not everyone knows is that adaptive brightness doesn't just change the brightness, it also learns from how you change it in various settings.
 
Hopefully most China new phone and LG still using android oreo thus we have better ones as we fix it all but hope once it all fixed thez release the pie for China flagship. Phone and for Moi favorito Nokia
 
Nova is by far is a better launcher. But Nova is for experienced Android users who like to customize. Regular users who don't know or don't care about changing launchers will go with the flow of change. However, that being said, I think the jump from buttons to gestures will annoy regular users who, again, don't know they can change their launcher.
 
Anyone know if the Microsoft Launcher works with Pie on the Pixel 2 (and gestures turned off)?
 
So are they going to take away the option to use the nav buttons eventually I wonder? As of now I still have the option to use either.... I'm still using the buttons lol. I was thinking maybe I should turn gestures on and give it a go before I'm forced to :O I think they really should give us the option for either...... isn't Android all about being able to customize it?
 
...... isn't Android all about being able to customize it?

Up to a point. It's become painfully clear that for Google to be really successful in the mainstream market SOME standardization is necessary. Whether that applies to the navigation in general, and to THIS particular issue, is a different question. But it IS a question, because you can't assume that everything and anything should be changeable.