ICS for Razr and Maxx but not Bionic???

[bbycrts]

CP/M !! I almost bought into that! But sanity prevailed, and I got a DOS machine instead (AT&T 6300). <g>

I had a CP/M machine with Wordstar. Wordstar typed circles around Word Perfect. AND my computer was "portable" because though it weighed 27 pounds the keyboard snapped on the front and there was a carry handle on the back. (Kaypro 2x)

 

[1812dave]

I had a CP/M machine with Wordstar. Wordstar typed circles around Word Perfect. AND my computer was "portable" because though it weighed 27 pounds the keyboard snapped on the front and there was a carry handle on the back. (Kaypro 2x)

I distinctly remember looking at the Kaypros! Some store in or near Los Gatos, I think. I hit all the computer stores in the South Bay. ended up buying from Computer & Associates, Bascom Ave. $2,500 for 640k, 20MB drive, monochrome. Didn't want to spring for a Compaq 286?. a lot more money. Memory was a freaking fortune back in '85. I wore out several printers--Okidata ML193. The pins got loose in the print head. moved on to a color dot matrix from Citizen. Junk. Then I went for a LaserJet 4 with extra memory. darn memory made the total cost upwards of $1,800. It has been darn expensive to keep up with PC technology. I'm not rich yet I've spent $51K so far for computers and related hardware/software.

 

[bbycrts]

I distinctly remember looking at the Kaypros! Some store in or near Los Gatos, I think. I hit all the computer stores in the South Bay. ended up buying from Computer & Associates, Bascom Ave. $2,500 for 640k, 20MB drive, monochrome. Didn't want to spring for a Compaq 286?. a lot more money. Memory was a freaking fortune back in '85. I wore out several printers--Okidata ML193. The pins got loose in the print head. moved on to a color dot matrix from Citizen. Junk. Then I went for a LaserJet 4 with extra memory. darn memory made the total cost upwards of $1,800. It has been darn expensive to keep up with PC technology. I'm not rich yet I've spent $51K so far for computers and related hardware/software.

We got our Kaypro WITH a daisy wheel printer bundled for $1800 using my brother's student discount at the University. No hard drive - 2 double sided floppies (that's what made it a 2X instead of just a 2), 5 inch monochrome monitor. To this day, though, I insist it had the best keyboard of any computer I've EVER used. And I work with the stupid things for a living.

 

[KillerG]

I think I've stated before that the novelty of Ics will wear off quickly. I'd rather run the current GB as it is almost flawless on the razr. Here is hoping for very few bugs when is released! Fingers crossed

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I've been playing with the ICS ROM that DHacker is running, that's based on CyanogenMod 9. I use it as a daily driver right now, and minus a few bugs and things they haven't gotten working yet (hardware acceleration, flash, and video/panorama) the UI is definitely worth the upgrade alone. Even if you don't like the new Blur on ICS (I think it's just fine), if they update the kernel for ICS, then all the ICS Roms will run much nicer. I've noticed even though there's some hangups from this still being beta software, that I can get through things much faster on ICS than I can on GB. Using GB now just feels clunky, and a lot of the stuff just feels like it doesn't work correctly.
If you don't believe me, try it for yourself. If you're not willing to try ICS, well then you're waiting. It's coming, whether you like it or not, so you better be ready to use it.

 

[1812dave]

I've been playing with the ICS ROM that DHacker is running, that's based on CyanogenMod 9. I use it as a daily driver right now, and minus a few bugs and things they haven't gotten working yet (hardware acceleration, flash, and video/panorama) the UI is definitely worth the upgrade alone. Even if you don't like the new Blur on ICS (I think it's just fine), if they update the kernel for ICS, then all the ICS Roms will run much nicer. I've noticed even though there's some hangups from this still being beta software, that I can get through things much faster on ICS than I can on GB. Using GB now just feels clunky, and a lot of the stuff just feels like it doesn't work correctly.
If you don't believe me, try it for yourself. If you're not willing to try ICS, well then you're waiting. It's coming, whether you like it or not, so you better be ready to use it.

what do u feel doesn't work correctly, or clunkily on GB?

 

[doogald]

Why are we left out?

Verizon's Droid RAZR and RAZR MAXX to get Android 4.0 on April 4th, Rezound to follow on the 6th (updated) -- Engadget

Ok, can we now call this source worthless, since the Razr, RazrMaxx and Rezound did not get ICS updates? Or updates at all?

 

[KillerG]

Ok, can we now call this source worthless, since the Razr, RazrMaxx and Rezound did not get ICS updates? Or updates at all?

They do have a working leak lol...it seems that there was something that made it be delayed, but there is always the possibility that it was never coming yet at all. It'll come eventually since they did find that leak though.

what do u feel doesn't work correctly, or clunkily on GB?

Well especially with Blur (without replacing a few things with third party apps and/or ROMS), I'll just start naming off stuff. Gallery, Browser, camera, Gmail, Google+, Movie Studio, Recent Apps, Settings, People, Calendar, Youtube...really is there nothing that Google didn't update in ICS? And CyanogenMod 9 has some really cool stuff as well.

 

[Bodhana]

I am happy with my Bionic...I can live very nicely without an update...I have had zero issues and would like to keep it that way

 

[jakson0100]

Real Soon Now?

 

[1812dave]

They do have a working leak lol...it seems that there was something that made it be delayed, but there is always the possibility that it was never coming yet at all. It'll come eventually since they did find that leak though.



Well especially with Blur (without replacing a few things with third party apps and/or ROMS), I'll just start naming off stuff. Gallery, Browser, camera, Gmail, Google+, Movie Studio, Recent Apps, Settings, People, Calendar, Youtube...really is there nothing that Google didn't update in ICS? And CyanogenMod 9 has some really cool stuff as well.

I don't have any complaints with the browser,youtube, calendar, gallery or camera (except of course the lousy low-light performance). camera speed is fine. picture quality is marginal, even compared to my crappy Storm 2.

i don't use google +, movie studio.

maybe ICS will be better in some areas, but I'm not unhappy with my phone as it stands now. it's quite dependable, never drops calls and the only hardware thing I wish was better was the screen resolution and color. (gives me something to look forward to when I get a future phone)

 

[sniffs]

Reasons why I want ICS?

1. Chrome
2. ICS apps
3. ICS performance
4. ICS I believe has improvements to battery life.
5. ICS has support for multi-threading(GB recognizes the second CPU, but doesn't really make very good use of it)
6. Faceunlock(gimmicky yes, cool yes)
7. App data usage built in
8. It's different? I'm a tech junkie and like to be on the latest and greatest.

 

[1812dave]

I don't subscribe to the theory that "the latest" is always "the greatest". In some instances, it might be, but it ISN'T A GIVEN.

 

[gorgalis]

I know this is stupid and makes no sense. But is anyone daring enough to try to install the Razr leak on their Bionic. Aren't they the exact same device except for the different body type and battery?

 

[doogald]

I know this is stupid and makes no sense. But is anyone daring enough to try to install the Razr leak on their Bionic. Aren't they the exact same device except for the different body type and battery?

First, it will not install. The first thing that an update checks for is a device ID, and they must match exactly in order for the update to install. And you can't just change the device ID in the update file, because I believe that it is cryptographically signed by Motorola, and the signing will not be the same if you alter even a single byte of the file.

Not only that, but we know that the Razr has a Super AMOLED display, rather than the Bionic's LCD display, so they are not the same exact device. (There may be other differences - the radios may be different, etc. That I do not know for sure.)

 

[gorgalis]

First, it will not install. The first thing that an update checks for is a device ID, and they must match exactly in order for the update to install. And you can't just change the device ID in the update file, because I believe that it is cryptographically signed by Motorola, and the signing will not be the same if you alter even a single byte of the file.

Not only that, but we know that the Razr has a Super AMOLED display, rather than the Bionic's LCD display, so they are not the same exact device. (There may be other differences - the radios may be different, etc. That I do not know for sure.)

I didn't know about the signatures or the different display, but after I posted that I remembered that the processors are different.

 

[SnydersWeb]

Going to take a stab at this - I would definitely discourage you from doing that. I've played around enough with Gentoo and kernel optimization to know you tailor the kernel to the hardware. In the case of the android phones this becomes more critical. Throw in a few device drivers/kernel modules that are hardware specific and you will likely end up bricking your phone.

I hate it, yes it would be wonderful if we had more options for ICS at this time, but this is not the reality we currently have. Maybe later.. but not now.

In the mean time what we can do is sign up for the feedback network and pretend to be patient. If Moto releases something that stinks, blast them.

 

[Mark_Venture]

I had a CP/M machine with Wordstar. Wordstar typed circles around Word Perfect. AND my computer was "portable" because though it weighed 27 pounds the keyboard snapped on the front and there was a carry handle on the back. (Kaypro 2x)

Wow.. I had a Kaypro II '83 I still have one in my basement

 

[1812dave]

Wow.. I had a Kaypro II '83 I still have one in my basement

I've owned lots of computers but don't have any around here that go back that far! LOL! BUT...I do still have my Sony portable radio that I bought in Viet Nam in 1969. It still works perfectly. is it any wonder that it's said that "they don't make things like they used to"?

 

[freeky1]

If Foxfi doesn't work on ICS, I won't upgrade anyway.

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[Ry]

ICS is coming to the Bionic, but the RAZR/RAZR Maxx is probably gonna get it first.

I hope tablet mode is enabled when using Webtop on the Bionic. Using the lapdock is pretty sluggish and so far, the videos showing Webtop 3.0 beta on the RAZR look like an improvement with performance.