Is anyone jealous of the Droid Razr?

I still have a distrust of Samsung. I had a lot of issues with a Fascinate. A coworker has something from Samsung on ATT that he has nothing but troubles with, much like I did that horrible Fascinate. So the Galaxy is a no go for me. Would the Galaxy still have that horrible TouchWiz interface? Yuck.

Haven't used Moto Blur, but I know a couple of Droid X users that are very happy with their phones. The Motorola hardware doesn't appear to have many issues. I would likely go with the Razr if I had to switch.

But in the end, my Bolt is performing great. I don't need dual core because the Bolt is pretty quick as is. I have the latest stock Gingerbread release, rooted, and froze the bloatware. I get reasonable battery life and it does pretty much everything I expect. Just got back from a 4 day trip using the Bolt as a GPS in the car, taking a lot of photos (that look great BTW). Taking care of some work while on the road. Even watched a movie on it one evening. OK, there is a flaw. Who is the idiot that put the kickstand so you can't charge at the same time. :p Other then that oddity, I have few issues.


We have folks right in this forum who have tried a 1500/1600mAh battery in the ThunderBolt and couldn't tell any difference from the OEM 1400mAh battery.

If you mean the Seidio battery.
Well, I have a Seidio 1600mAhr battery. The app Battery Monitor Widget estimates it as a 1095mAhr battery. Those 'high capacity' normal sized batteries are a gimmick IMHO.
Besides, I keep a small external charger pack handy. It carries a 2500mAhr. It is not much larger then carrying the extended battery, and it is universal enough to charge any phone. Or I can put IT on a charger, while I use my phone on the normal thin battery.
 
I dont like a non-removeable battery or blur. The phone itself looks pretty slick, but im more interested in user experience and having loads of roms available which keeps my bolt new and fresh.
 
I still have a distrust of Samsung. I had a lot of issues with a Fascinate. A coworker has something from Samsung on ATT that he has nothing but troubles with, much like I did that horrible Fascinate. So the Galaxy is a no go for me. Would the Galaxy still have that horrible TouchWiz interface? Yuck.

The Nexus line is a completely different ball game. You probably haven't heard of too many issues from the Samsung Nexus S because it's a Google phone. That means that all of the software updates come straight from Google and there is absolutely no overlay or bloatware. The Galaxy Nexus will be exactly the same. As long as it says Nexus, don't look at it as a manufacturer phone, look at it as a Google phone because it's the way Google intends Android to be seen on a phone.
 
The Nexus line is a completely different ball game. You probably haven't heard of too many issues from the Samsung Nexus S because it's a Google phone. That means that all of the software updates come straight from Google and there is absolutely no overlay or bloatware. The Galaxy Nexus will be exactly the same. As long as it says Nexus, don't look at it as a manufacturer phone, look at it as a Google phone because it's the way Google intends Android to be seen on a phone.

But it would still be the crappy Samsung hardware.
 
Aside from the initial GPS woes, I never had any issues with the Fascinate I had. Loved the screen and feel of the device. Slow updates and developers jumping ship was what drove me away in the end but that's a moot point with the Galaxy Nexus being a google phone. Plus you don't have to worry about Samsung breaking the whole OS to add Touchwiz.
 
But it would still be the crappy Samsung hardware.

Well Samsung may have some crappy hardware on their lower end and mid range phones and in the past, but there have been a lot of really good reviews on their most recent high end phones like the SII. The SII has been reviewed by just about everyone and some say it's the best phone out right now and others who worship Apple say it's the best Android phone out right now. I think Samsung is upping their game in the phone arena, that could be why the rest of their products are suffering (i.e. blu-ray players).
 
I think you just hit on why Apple and others don't think it's idiotic -- whereas most consumers do think it's idiotic. :)

-Frank
A battery replacement fo the iPod Touch is! $30-35 so I believe he's full of s***
 
A battery replacement for the iPod Touch is! $30-35 so I believe he's full of s***
The point is not the $30-35. The point is that probably half the consumers (or more) with a device in need of a factory battery replacement are just gonna say... "what the hell, it's about time for a new device anyway", and buy a new device. That's where the incentive is.

-Frank
 
A battery replacement fo the iPod Touch is! $30-35 so I believe he's full of s***

Apple - Support - iPod - Repair pricing

$86 with shipping to replace the battery on my iPod Touch Gen 2. And I lose access to the device while they "repair" it, which could take days or weeks. I need to factory reset it to protect my data. And, more importantly, I don't necessarily get the same iPod Touch back, I might get a refurb. God knows what will be wrong with the refurb, and I have to reload all of my music and settings to it. .... to replace A BATTERY...

None of that would be a big deal for an iPod, but I shudder to think of losing my phone for two weeks and getting a refurb unit because I wanted to swap the battery.

Even if someone has it for $35 and will do the work for me, I can get an OEM replacement battery for a Blackberry of the same era for under 6 bucks including shiping and spend more time opening the silly bubble package than replacing the actual battery.

I won the iPod Touch in a contest, and it was a valuable lesson learned for free. The limitations imposed on that device made the iPad look completely unattractive to me and saved me over $600!
 
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Yeah, I am somewhat jealous of it. It will get ICS before the ReeZound and TB. Its LED will work as one should - longer than HTC's 5-minute rule. It has that waterproof nano coating. Plus, even though it has blur, the OS isn't as smothered as a handset with Sense.

As far as the removable battery, has anyone ever used a Moto handset? My wife's Droid X battery puts my TB to shame. Their UI doesn't drain batteries like Sense.

One more thing, the RZ is a TB on roids. Watch that video where the presenter with no personality who compares the RZ and TB's size. The RZ is arguably faster. Not worth an upgrade IMO.
 
The Razr looks very cool. It would be a nice device for someone who doesn't want to root and run custom roms so that someone isn't me (maybe my girlfriend). :-P
 
I agree with the LED comment until I started using Cyanogen. LED works like it should, blinks until message is checked. Reminiscent of my blackberry days when the LED ruled all.
 
I can charge it while using the kickstand. I don't know why people say they can't. Standing upright while using it. works just fine. This phone is pure awesomeness
 
I can charge it while using the kickstand. I don't know why people say they can't. Standing upright while using it. works just fine. This phone is pure awesomeness

Can't charge and watch Netflix on it in landscape mode. And the kickstand on mine is to weak to put the Bolt on it's right side and watch vids/charge at same time. Maybe that's what some peeps are thinking. I just watch vids in short bursts with the kick stand and then charge the battery. The 605.5 GB update has been real good to my stock 1400mah battery so I'm not worried about making it through the day and having a dead phone.
In terms of the jealousy of the Razr, not jealous at all. It's a nice looking device and honestly, if I had the cash, I would definitely rock it. If I had the cash, I'd also rock a Galaxy Nexus, and an HTC Rezound. I'm pretty happy and satisfied with my Thunderbolt. It's had it's rough moments with these crappy software updates from HTC/Verizon, but it's my workhorse and, hey, it makes phone calls when I need it most. 'Nuff said.
 
It's not very stable in portrait mode either. That or maybe it's just the case I have that makes it fall easier. You can also use the kickstand with the charging port facing up (without a case) but some apps don't rotate that way.
 
Simple solution to charging while in landscape if you don't want to purchase/use a dock; just put the phone on the corner of something, like a very small box. I do this sometimes at my desk at work on weekends when watching football. Works like a champ! :)
 
My personal assessment of the November phone releases lays out like this:

The Droid RAZR has a unique concept design, much like the Samsung Continuum. The ultra-thin design, kevlar backing, and waterproof nano-coating are all the physical features that the iPhone 4 half-assed with their semi-thin design, helicopter glass construction, and oleophobic coating. Its hardware is meeting the current high-end standard with the 1.2 GHz dual-core processor and 1 GB of RAM, and exceeds the standard with LTE connectivity. It will be released with a solid, smooth phone, worthy of any person that no longer accepts that durable has to mean bulky. The only downsides I can potentially see is Motorola's poor PenTile display washing out the screen or the camera having poor color filtering, which are common for Motorola phones.

The Galaxy Nexus certainly will be the phone to have this year. It is the future of Android, and will have all the benefits of a mostly bloatless vanilla Android mixed with lightening fast LTE. It also bear similar standards for processor and RAM. Now most might see the 5 MP camera as inferior to current devices 8 MP cameras, however not all MPs are the same. My Samsung Continuum took higher quality photos with a 5 MP camera than up to this point the HTC's 8 MP camera sensor. It will be a hands down, all around killer for whatever you can do in a phone. The downside is the early adopter will have to wait for app developers to update compatibility to ICS. For only that reason I would advise patience on Android Market support.

Now comes to the sleeper... The HTC Rezound will be a multimedia juggernaut. The brilliant, crisp 720p screen, the new 8 MP camera design, and Beats Audio are a trifecta of media heaven. Having a industry-leading 1.5 GHz dual-core processor, 1 GB of RAM, and of course LTE do not hurt this picture of perfection. The only complaint one could make is the dimensions, which are not all that different from the Thunderbolt.

Yes, I am saying that neither phone has a distinct advantage that would make them a hands-down better phone. It largely falls on preference... Do you like thin and durable? Do you like the latest and greatest of AOSP? Do you like raw media performance?

Here is the down side I can forsee: All phones have bugs. It will happen. Even Apple has fallen victim to bugs with battery drain and Siri malfunctions on iOS 5. Let that be a lesson... all of these phones will have something quirky. The one I would be most hesitant about is the Nexus, since Android 4.0 is brand new, but that's just my opinion. Give these phones a week or two each and let other people beta test for you while you research. If the bugs are cosmetic and really would not affect your usage, then jump on! Never, ever rely on the manufacturer to make the phone into what you want with updates. You will be disappointed. That is why I love my Thunderbolt. I bought it because I felt the downsides of the Thunderbolt (at launch) were the lesser of two evils compared to the potential downsides of the Charge, Revolution, or Bionic. I did not buy it back in March because I felt HTC would update it to be a better phone.
 

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