Is Google Fi better than Verizon?

[TraderGary]

Re: Google Fi

Sorry can't help you if you can't understand the common flow of a conversation with quotes on a forum.. so I agree to disagree.

To have a Moderator demean my intelligence by telling me that "Sorry can't help you if you can't understand the common flow of a conversation with quotes on a forum" is something I would never have expected on the forums.

You understand that your inability to accept the fact that you made an incorrect statement and all I did was correct that statement was what started all this. It has nothing to do with whether I understand the structure of the English language or how to follow a forum conversation. Anyone reading this exchange can see what you do using your position as a moderator. I'm expecting this whole exchange to be deleted and in all probability my account will be removed.

 

[Almeuit]

Re: Google Fi

To have a Moderator demean my intelligence by telling me that "Sorry can't help you if you can't understand the common flow of a conversation with quotes on a forum" is something I would never have expected on the forums.

You understand that your inability to accept the fact that you made an incorrect statement and all I did was correct that statement was what started all this. It has nothing to do with whether I understand the structure of the English language or how to follow a forum conversation. Anyone reading this exchange can see what you do using your position as a moderator. I'm expecting this whole exchange to be deleted and in all probability my account will be removed.

Using my position? When did I threaten any type of moderator action against you what-so-ever? I never did. I never did anything with the moderator position. I simply disagreed with you and had a conversation on the disagreement.

As I said my statement isn't incorrect and I am agreeing to disagree about it. I have tried to explain it and you see it another way and refuse to budge -- which is 110% okay hence me just dropping the conversation. I never said anything about your intelligence -- anyone can be smart and not understand everything. I tried to explain it multiple times and apparently I can't get you to get what I am saying so it must be the way I explain things.

If you want to discuss this more you can PM me but I won't sit by quietly as you say I did something with my "powers" when I did absolutely nothing with them. I posted like any other person that posts here.

 

[mustang7757]

Re: Google Fi

you both good people, and contribute good stuff here ...PM each other get past this

 

[TraderGary]

Re: Google Fi

And of course you see it "your" way and also refuse to budge. I think it might be good if we just go over what you feel is a correct statement and why I said it wasn't. If we can come to a common understanding it would be good and then we can just drop it.

You said "At 15 GB it is a hard cap to 2G speeds."

I said "Actually it's not a hard cap. You still have the option of continuing to pay $10/GB and you will still get fast speeds."

I will agree that to most all users they will see it as a hard cap to 2G speeds.

If you will concede that it isn't actually a cast in concrete "hard cap" but instead is a "soft cap" with the option of continuing to pay $10/GB if the fast speeds are still needed.

At no time was I trying to usurp your advice by giving competing advice. I wasn't giving any advice. I was just clarifying your statement.

Agreed?

 

[Almeuit]

Re: Google Fi

And of course you see it "your" way and also refuse to budge. I think it might be good if we just go over what you feel is a correct statement and why I said it wasn't. If we can come to a common understanding it would be good and then we can just drop it.

You said "At 15 GB it is a hard cap to 2G speeds."

I said "Actually it's not a hard cap. You still have the option of continuing to pay $10/GB and you will still get fast speeds."

I will agree that to most all users they will see it as a hard cap to 2G speeds.

If you will concede that it isn't actually a cast in concrete "hard cap" but instead is a "soft cap" with the option of continuing to pay $10/GB if the fast speeds are still needed.

At no time was I trying to usurp your advice by giving competing advice. I wasn't giving any advice. I was just clarifying your statement.

Agreed?

I am done with the conversation. You mock me for seeing it my way and demand I see it your way since you feel that is the only way -- sorry not constructive. We had tons of exchange and obviously you couldn't get what I am saying so I am not going to go down the rabbit hole again. As I have said multiple times now I agree to disagree on the subject hence me dropping it.

I only responded to refute you accusing me of using my position in a way that wasn't done at all.

 

[Golfdriver97]

Re: Google Fi

Hi folks I know this has been brought up but wondering if Fi would be better overall than Verizon.

Have you decided to try Fi at least? Even if you buy a burner SIM and pay a month, it is pretty easy to test.

 

[TraderGary]

Re: Google Fi

I am done with the conversation. You mock me for seeing it my way and demand I see it your way since you feel that is the only way -- sorry not constructive. We had tons of exchange and obviously you couldn't get what I am saying so I am not going to go down the rabbit hole again. As I have said multiple times now I agree to disagree on the subject hence me dropping it.

I only responded to refute you accusing me of using my position in a way that wasn't done at all.

In no way was I mocking you. I'm amazed that you can still disagree with what is a fact you can read on Google Fi. OK. I tried.

 

[dpham00]

Re: Google Fi

Have you decided to try Fi at least? Even if you buy a burner SIM and pay a month, it is pretty easy to test.

Most definitely. And you can port in, use for a month and see how it goes. If it isn't good enough then just port back.

Problem with a burner Sim is you aren't likely to use it as much as you would your regular phone

 

[Golfdriver97]

Re: Google Fi

Problem with a burner Sim is you aren't likely to use it as much as you would your regular phone

Very true. I was more suggesting that in case if they left the plan they had they may not get the same plan back once they port back. Say if they have an older one that the carrier isn't offering anymore.

 

[dpham00]

Re: Google Fi

Very true. I was more suggesting that in case if they left the plan they had they may not get the same plan back once they port back. Say if they have an older one that the carrier isn't offering anymore.

Ah. Definitely a good point.

 

[lcneed]

Re: Google Fi

I think if you use a non-Fi device on Google Fi, you could use a device that is locked to T-mobile. I guess because Fi would only use T-mobile network when you are on a non-Fi device? I hope this would stay the case, because I cannot get my Samsung tablet to unlock from T-mobile. They kept trying to get me to use the T-mobile Unlock app which is not installed on my tablet. The tablet kept asking for a code to unlock but T-mobile said they don't do "code" anymore. I was expecting the tablet to ask for code again when I pop in the new Data Sim from Fi but it connected to Google Fi perfectly to my surprise.

 

[cbreze]

Re: Google Fi

When I tested Fi I used my Pixel2 with the E-sim. I kept my Verizon sim in my iPhone7. I absolutely did not want to risk losing my Verizon plan if things didn't work as well as I was hoping Fi would work. My Verizon plan is no longer offered so I'd be SOL. I was also able to compare both quite easily this way.
I'd recommend anyone wanting to try out Google Fi if you have a plan you don' want to risk losing then keep it till your satisfied Fi works well enough for you. In my case Fi was disappointing so it was easy to drop it and go back. Only out first month $23 charge.

 

[hallux]

Re: Google Fi

I think if you use a non-Fi device on Google Fi, you could use a device that is locked to T-mobile. I guess because Fi would only use T-mobile network when you are on a non-Fi device?

No, the device will see that the SIM is not a T-Mobile SIM and reject it. Just because the "primary" carrier may be T-Mobile, I wouldn't hedge bets on the device working if it's locked to T-Mobile still.

 

[Almeuit]

Re: Google Fi

No, the device will see that the SIM is not a T-Mobile SIM and reject it. Just because the "primary" carrier may be T-Mobile, I wouldn't hedge bets on the device working if it's locked to T-Mobile still.

Normally I would agree but I actually have seen a few reports on Reddit that people are noticing non-Fi phones are working. Such as a locked T-Mobile one is working with Fi still even though it wasn't unlocked.

Now if this is a glitch -- IDK -- but I have seen a couple posts so far.

 

[TraderGary]

Re: Google Fi

I'm on Fi right now and I'm using an app called Signal Spy Pro. This app shows that my carrier is T-Mobile and it also shows my Pixel 3 XL eSIM connected network to be Google Fi. So Google Fi is the SIM connection and Google Fi is acting as the intermediary to T-Mobile. As far as I know T-Mobile still does not work with an eSIM.

 

[ChuckG73]

Re: Google Fi

Project Fi is what made me leave Verizon for TMobile. I was on Verizon on my Pixel 2 XL and activated the esim. after two weeks of never losing a signal and having service in Deltaville I realized I could save money and get more from TMobile. There is a way to force the service provider with project Fi and my speed test app would tell me what service provider and the band I was getting.

Now we have 5 lines, 4 unlimited phones and a tablet Sim in my mofi router with the international data plan for.unlimited hotspot providing internet at my River House in Deltaville VA for $188 a month.

I would love to go back to Google Fi but does not make fiscal sense.

 

[18t]

Re: Google Fi

After 9 years with big red, I made the switch yesterday to Fi. So far so good. And I get better signal at my house than I did under Verizon. The big test will be service in the mountains.

 

[ChuckG73]

Re: Google Fi

You might just be surprised

 

[ImTurningViolet]

Re: Google Fi

I made the switch and am officially a data miser! My question now is do you have to have WiFi calling turned on? I've never had a good experience with WiFi calling. I just turned it off after noticed poor call quality.
So far I'm pretty pleased. I turned data saver on initially but I have it turned off now. Ten days in I'm at less than a half GB after using like 12gb a month prior to this purely bc I left WiFi off most of the time.

 

[cbreze]

Re: Google Fi

I made the switch and am officially a data miser! My question now is do you have to have WiFi calling turned on? I've never had a good experience with WiFi calling. I just turned it off after noticed poor call quality.
So far I'm pretty pleased. I turned data saver on initially but I have it turned off now. Ten days in I'm at less than a half GB after using like 12gb a month prior to this purely bc I left WiFi off most of the time.

Fi is designed to work best when you leave wifi enabled. It is set up to prefer wifi over cellular data.
As I mentioned in a previous post I had an issue where it would want to connect to weak wifi when a T-mo signal was a bit weak but adequate IMO. YMMV on that but I ended up leaving wifi on but wifi scanning off. That way when out and about in town where T-mo signal was ok I wasn't constantly scanning for the next wifi and trying to connect weak or not.
My daughter loves it as it is saving her a bunch of money over Verizon. She leaves mobile data off always and wifi scanning off. When she gets home her emails come thru and she does any social media then.

And wifi calling should be on. it is the preferred method of calling when wifi is in range and on. If no wifi then one of the 3 cell services kick in. If your signal is good at home and most places you go then wifi calling does not need to be on AFAIK. I just always had mine on whether I was using it for calls or not because my cell signal at home was crap with all 3 services.
Sounds like it's working out for you, that's great! You will end up saving money and it will add up over time.