Is Jelly Bean making anyone else rethink the GS3?

[tekhna]

Either way, I am not worried.

ICS is plenty good for me. JB will be great once it gets official, but I'm good with ICS until that happens. I somehow think the RIL issues will get resolved.

Do you even think it will be an issue going from ICS to JB? I'm not smart enough to understand it, but they are both 4.XX ROMS, so I would think that if Samsung provides the source code, it could be used in JB.....maybe not.....idk..

RIL is closed-source, as far as I know it's never released. It's also a massively difficult undertaking, as I understand it. Because there's no source, it's line-by-line reverse engineering in smali. One change breaks everything else, and when you've fixed that, it breaks everything else again. It's a massive undertaking, and has only successfully been done with one phone and one version of Android (GB).

 

[TallyHo]

RIL is closed-source, as far as I know it's never released. It's also a massively difficult undertaking, as I understand it. Because there's no source, it's line-by-line reverse engineering in smali. One change breaks everything else, and when you've fixed that, it breaks everything else again. It's a massive undertaking, and has only successfully been done with one phone and one version of Android (GB).

Interesting.

Well, I'll be happy with ICS until someone either figures it out or JB becomes official.

Hell, the devs got the camera on my DX working on ICS and HWA working and that was said it could never be done either......

I beleive I also had 4G LTE data on my XOOM before ICS was released for that device as well.....so......

 

[ibcop]

Hell to the no.....been there and done that with a Nexus.

 

[biff6789]

No. Just no. The Thunderbolt is the only LTE phone with AOSP and it's GB.

The Charge, Bionic, Revolution, Droid 4, the Rhyme, the Rezound, Razr, Razr Maxx, Spectrum, et. al never received AOSP.

In the era of LTE, getting AOSP is NOT a given because of the RIL, and it feels more and more like selecting a phone on software is actually more important.

Almost every phone you listed was either a Moto phone (which historically has not proven to be very friendly with AOSP) or a phone with an incredibly limited dev community.

I've spoken privately with one dev from CM and one dev from AOKP - both have said they intend to get their ROMs working on the US variant of the S3 due to its large user base and large anticipated dev communities.

 

[Biopsidy]

And thus the quid pro quo of a Nexus device. The best software, so so hardware.

Sent from Oliver, my Nuclear-Powered, Orb-Shaped Candy Device.

My thoughts exactly. FOR A MOMENT I considered getting a Nexus and then I remembered it's a Nexus that failed to impress me several months ago (anyone feel that Samsung purposely held back the Nexus hardware to save it for the S3?) and that I'm also on Verizon and Verizon doesn't even play by the Google update rules.

The Nexus as a device is OK at best to me, even when it first came out. OK camera, OK screen, OK design, OK screen... nothing about it really stands out.

And then... while I liked the new notifications and Google Now, it'll be months AFTER Jelly Bean release before most of my apps even support that feature and then - like Siri and S-Voice - I really doubt I'd use Google Now a whole lot. It's a very situational feature. Nothing in Jelly Bean really made me feel like I "had to have it now".

 

[WhoMe]

I want Jelly Bean, I think the "Butter" improvements are essential to making the Android UI match the promise that is the Android OS.

BUT, I want somthing better than the Nexus spec wise. So SGS3 is it, Im confident JB will come OTA at some point or that the Developers will cook us some Jelly Bean magic in the near future.

 

[tekhna]

Almost every phone you listed was either a Moto phone (which historically has not proven to be very friendly with AOSP) or a phone with an incredibly limited dev community.

I've spoken privately with one dev from CM and one dev from AOKP - both have said they intend to get their ROMs working on the US variant of the S3 due to its large user base and large anticipated dev communities.

I listed every non-Nexus LTE phone I could think of, did I miss any? I'd be ecstatic if AOKP worked, but to date there's no reason to think it will. Fingers crossed.

 

[Joe the Insider]

Not at all. I am getting the Nexus 7 which has jelly bean. Plus the S3 is better in every way. I had the Nexus and the cheap glass, cheap feel, battery life was a deal breaker.

Sent from my VS920 4G using Android Central Forums

 

[biff6789]

I listed every non-Nexus LTE phone I could think of, did I miss any? I'd be ecstatic if AOKP worked, but to date there's no reason to think it will. Fingers crossed.

No, you are correct and did not miss any phones. My point that perhaps I was unclear on was that the Thunderbolt had a fantastic and powerful dev community that was able to hex edit the RIL to get AOSP working. The other LTE phones you mentioned were either non-AOSP-friendly Motos or had limited dev support.

The S3 should have the largest LTE non-Nexus dev support community since the Thunderbolt. That was my point.

And I'm with you on AOSP. Hopefully the devs can get it working sooner than later, but I would still anticipate months of work first.

Cheers

 

[dmmarck]

My thoughts exactly. FOR A MOMENT I considered getting a Nexus and then I remembered it's a Nexus that failed to impress me several months ago (anyone feel that Samsung purposely held back the Nexus hardware to save it for the S3?) and that I'm also on Verizon and Verizon doesn't even play by the Google update rules.

The Nexus as a device is OK at best to me, even when it first came out. OK camera, OK screen, OK design, OK screen... nothing about it really stands out.

And then... while I liked the new notifications and Google Now, it'll be months AFTER Jelly Bean release before most of my apps even support that feature and then - like Siri and S-Voice - I really doubt I'd use Google Now a whole lot. It's a very situational feature. Nothing in Jelly Bean really made me feel like I "had to have it now".

The only part I disagree with is the screen and design.

At its release, it had the best Android screen available (unless you want to argue the Skyrocket, but really, 720p HD is hard to argue with IMO). I also like the design; capacitative buttons and home buttons are cheap IMO. I can't go back to a device with them.

 

[tekhna]

I just saw the EVO 4G LTE got CM9, so maybe there is hope!