Is the Note 7 still waterproof if I have the pen out and am using it?

[skatergirl]

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Ok, last thing. The operations manager at Samsung told me all water damage voids the warranty, it is in all paperwork you sign.

You want to use your phone in water, go for it. I would suggest you contact Samsung Plus and verify the warranty and water damage on the phone.

I am not disagreeing with you and I think this point was mentioned, but why the heck would Samsung unveil this new phone with dunk tanks for people in the audience to to throw phones into and then say the warranty is voided if there is water damage?

 

[anon(782252)]

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So, if I understand correctly, the IP68 rating does not depend on the S-pen being inserted in the device or not. Is that correct?

(it is hard to read this thread with all the ego-fights...)

That's correct. They have shown the ability to use the S pen underwater.

 

[PlaybookFanatic]

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So, if I understand correctly, the IP68 rating does not depend on the S-pen being inserted in the device or not. Is that correct?

(it is hard to read this thread with all the ego-fights...)

It does not depend on the pen. Both pieces have their own separate IP68 rating. So the pen can be missing.

 

[Kelly Kearns]

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I am not disagreeing with you and I think this point was mentioned, but why the heck would Samsung unveil this new phone with dunk tanks for people in the audience to to throw phones into and then say the warranty is voided if there is water damage?

Because it is like all advertising for all companies. They are over dramatic and fine print gets detailed.

Now if they admit they have a design flaw like they have with some of the S7 Actives, that is a different story.

When I was with AT&T and the S5 Active came out and I inquired about it for my niece, one of them.. AT&T or Samsung, told me straight up.. You can't do things like the commercial shows.

Commercials always make things look better with every industry.

Samsung has a two year extra protection that does cover liquid damage, but the phone isn't waterproof, so..

You might can take it under water and take pictures and never have a problem, but you could. It took a lot and media attention, to get Samsung to do warranty exchanges for the S7 Actives that were manufactured before a certain date. But, Samsung admitted they found a problem.

 

[Hoggles]

Water resistant. Please don't use your Note 7's in water. It is an electronic device.

Kelly, there are already a bunch of people using their S7's in water, under water, you name it. When I had my S7e, I used it a few times in full on rain. No damage, perfect...and fun to do. Sure, technically not waterproof, but Sammy fully promotes people using it in water, as all their ads show. Even though the warranty is sketchy in regards to water damage. People should go for it...just be aware that some fail and also be careful with it, especially in water.

 

[Hoggles]

There was a guy in another thread, who said he takes his S7 into the shower almost daily since March. Still perfect.

Little bit tmi, I know

 

[Ev C]

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The Note 7 has an IP68 rating for water... Let me break it down for EVERYONE


*What is IP68? IP ratings explained
The recently unveiled N7 will ship with an IP68 rating. So what exactly does that mean?


*IP address

First up, let's address what IP actually means. It stands for 'Ingress Protection'.

This is a rating system set forth by the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) to inform consumers of how well protected an electronic device is against foreign bodies.

An IP rating actually tells you two things about the device it's attributed to - how well it resists water ingress, and how well it resists dust ingress.

*Numbers game

This two-stage rating is what the two numbers following the 'IP' part stand for.

The first number always corresponds to how resistant to solid objects the device is, right down to and including dust, while the second number relates to its level of water resistance.

Perhaps confusingly, the two scales are configured a little differently. For starters, dust resistance is marked from 0 to 6, while water resistance goes from 0 to 8.

In general, the higher the number the better. However, the water rating operates slightly differently beyond IPX6. Just because a device has secured a 7 or 8 on the liquid ingress side of things, doesn't mean it's automatically been tested for IPs 1 through to 6.

This is why something like the Sony Xperia Z5 has been given both an IP68 and an IP65 rating. This means that it can withstand light water jets as well as full immersion, and is thus more water resistant than the N7.

*IP68

Given the aforementioned information, you can probably figure out that the IP68 rating given to the N7 is fairly strong.

While this means that the phone is completely dust resistant, again it isn't quite so simple for the liquid ingress rating.

Instead, it means that the phone is "protected from immersion in water with a depth of more than 1 meter," according to the IEC. The usage case supplied for this is "Rain, splashing and accidental submersion."

The IEC requires that the manufacturer itself supplies the precise depth and length of time the device can be exposed to water in such a rating, and in the N7 case Samsung says that it can withstand "Up to 30 minutes or 1.5 meters under (water)"

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Very well stated. I also deal in an industry in which products undergo this certification process. I did here somewhere that if the S pen is removed it's rating will drop to IP67. Not sure where I heard it, but i believe it was in an interview that was recorded during the unpacked event. If this is true there would have to be this disclaimer somewhere. Pen in IP68, pen out IP67. That IP67 rating would then reduce the depth to 1 meter I believe. I may be wrong and only Samsung knows for sure.

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[Kelly Kearns]

Kelly, there are already a bunch of people using their S7's in water, under water, you name it. When I had my S7e, I used it a few times in full on rain. No damage, perfect...and fun to do. Sure, technically not waterproof, but Sammy fully promotes people using it in water, as all their ads show. Even though the warranty is sketchy in regards to water damage. People should go for it...just be aware that some fail and also be careful with it, especially in water.

If they don't mind having a new phone that has no warranty and has water damage, no problem.

There are also a bunch of S7 Active people with water damage that have been fighting with Samsung and AT&T. I asked specifically about the Note 7 when speaking to the operations manager. She said, if there is water damage to them, the warranty is void. The only reason Samsung is replacing the S7 Active is because they said they had a problem and corrected it on a certain date.

 

[Almeuit]

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I don't doubt you one bit. But rhetorically, how could Samsung void the warranty for using the phone as advertised? Doesn't make sense to me. If you're gonna void the warranty for water damage, don't advertise using it under water.

At&t Note5

Because things displayed in a commercial ad and real life are very different. Always read the fine print at the bottom. It explains the truth 100% of the time.

 

[Almeuit]

Mod Note

Just cleaned the thread up some. If you want to talk about water proofing / resistant and all that (including IP rating) that'll be fine. Going after one another, being rude, and jumping down each others throats is not. Please ensure to post in a professional manner when posting and report problem posts rather than try to handle them yourself.

Thanks.

 

[boris davenport]

Re: Is it Still Waterproof if...

The Note 7 has an IP68 rating for water... Let me break it down for EVERYONE


*What is IP68? IP ratings explained
The recently unveiled N7 will ship with an IP68 rating. So what exactly does that mean?


*IP address

First up, let's address what IP actually means. It stands for 'Ingress Protection'.

This is a rating system set forth by the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) to inform consumers of how well protected an electronic device is against foreign bodies.

An IP rating actually tells you two things about the device it's attributed to - how well it resists water ingress, and how well it resists dust ingress.

*Numbers game

This two-stage rating is what the two numbers following the 'IP' part stand for.

The first number always corresponds to how resistant to solid objects the device is, right down to and including dust, while the second number relates to its level of water resistance.

Perhaps confusingly, the two scales are configured a little differently. For starters, dust resistance is marked from 0 to 6, while water resistance goes from 0 to 8.

In general, the higher the number the better. However, the water rating operates slightly differently beyond IPX6. Just because a device has secured a 7 or 8 on the liquid ingress side of things, doesn't mean it's automatically been tested for IPs 1 through to 6.

This is why something like the Sony Xperia Z5 has been given both an IP68 and an IP65 rating. This means that it can withstand light water jets as well as full immersion, and is thus more water resistant than the N7.

*IP68

Given the aforementioned information, you can probably figure out that the IP68 rating given to the N7 is fairly strong.

While this means that the phone is completely dust resistant, again it isn't quite so simple for the liquid ingress rating.

Instead, it means that the phone is "protected from immersion in water with a depth of more than 1 meter," according to the IEC. The usage case supplied for this is "Rain, splashing and accidental submersion."

The IEC requires that the manufacturer itself supplies the precise depth and length of time the device can be exposed to water in such a rating, and in the N7 case Samsung says that it can withstand "Up to 30 minutes or 1.5 meters under (water)"

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(Z 1)
Yes you are correct, but I believe Sony devices are much resistant to water

 

[PRGDR]

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It does not depend on the pen. Both pieces have their own separate IP68 rating. So the pen can be missing.

That's correct. They have shown the ability to use the S pen underwater.

Thank you very much @PlaybookFanatic, @tourbound129. So, all the rest of the discussion is weather you should do things like going swimming with an IP68 rated device, and weather Samsung would void the warranty in such cases. A bit OT, I guess.

Thanks again.

 

[LdotAdot13]

Re: Is it Still Waterproof if...

The Note 7 has an IP68 rating for water... Let me break it down for EVERYONE


*What is IP68? IP ratings explained
The recently unveiled N7 will ship with an IP68 rating. So what exactly does that mean?


*IP address

First up, let's address what IP actually means. It stands for 'Ingress Protection'.

This is a rating system set forth by the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) to inform consumers of how well protected an electronic device is against foreign bodies.

An IP rating actually tells you two things about the device it's attributed to - how well it resists water ingress, and how well it resists dust ingress.

*Numbers game

This two-stage rating is what the two numbers following the 'IP' part stand for.

The first number always corresponds to how resistant to solid objects the device is, right down to and including dust, while the second number relates to its level of water resistance.

Perhaps confusingly, the two scales are configured a little differently. For starters, dust resistance is marked from 0 to 6, while water resistance goes from 0 to 8.

In general, the higher the number the better. However, the water rating operates slightly differently beyond IPX6. Just because a device has secured a 7 or 8 on the liquid ingress side of things, doesn't mean it's automatically been tested for IPs 1 through to 6.

This is why something like the Sony Xperia Z5 has been given both an IP68 and an IP65 rating. This means that it can withstand light water jets as well as full immersion, and is thus more water resistant than the N7.

*IP68

Given the aforementioned information, you can probably figure out that the IP68 rating given to the N7 is fairly strong.

While this means that the phone is completely dust resistant, again it isn't quite so simple for the liquid ingress rating.

Instead, it means that the phone is "protected from immersion in water with a depth of more than 1 meter," according to the IEC. The usage case supplied for this is "Rain, splashing and accidental submersion."

The IEC requires that the manufacturer itself supplies the precise depth and length of time the device can be exposed to water in such a rating, and in the N7 case Samsung says that it can withstand "Up to 30 minutes or 1.5 meters under (water)"

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This was actually very insightful. I never knew what the IPxx stupid for.

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