Juice Defender on N4 - Yes or No?

yesterday I got 5 hrs screen time. Today I got just a hair past 4.

When I remove JD I go to under 4.

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Dang I've never gotten to four. Do you think you being rooted gives you more juice?

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I'm consistently getting 2 days battery life, with between 3-4 hours of screen time. I'm running on stock, but have made some tweaks in order to conserve battery life. I realise that 'Google Now' is a battery hog, but I'm absolutely not disabling that as it's one of the reasons I switched over to Android from iOS! :)

Granted, I'm not using the phone constantly, just letting it slip into my daily routine, but I'm happy with it. I considered Juice Defender, but have read many reports that it is a battery hog in itself. My advice is to try and tweak the settings on your phone before turning to something like Juice Defender. When I first got the phone, I noticed that there were plenty of services enabled (sync, cell broadcasts, Etc) that I was just not using, so why leave them on just to drain the battery? I can't speak for everybody, but disabling battery draining services / functions of the phone that I was just not using, seems to have made a difference for me.
 
Dang I've never gotten to four. Do you think you being rooted gives you more juice?

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I really don't think that helps. I do manually turn things off still which even with JD adds a bit more. But I also think that some phones have better batteries.

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Being rooted itself won't help root is just a permission level.

Juice defender and apps like that tend to cause a lot of issues with wakelocks.

The first two pics are my skyrocket with its 1850mah battery.

The third picture I will use as a nice help you look for issues type lesson. The third pic is exactly what you don't want to see. Look at screen on then look at awake. Those two in a good battery setup should match almost exactly. This current pic tells me I have some form of rouge app causing it to wake frequently which is where the idle drain will come from now its on me to discover where the issues lie often I use android tuner to see what apps have been running in standby.

Edit: doing some digging I found my big issue was maps with some audio settings being my second biggest issue. I went ahead and rectified them and hope to see improvements.


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What JD does, it does well. But it's a bandaid, it doesn't solve the fundamental issue of WHY your battery discharges so quickly.
Some of us are tinkerers and like to fiddle with settings constantly, some of us just like to install a program to take of everything for them.
 
Being rooted itself won't help root is just a permission level.

Juice defender and apps like that tend to cause a lot of issues with wakelocks.

The first two pics are my skyrocket with its 1850mah battery.

The third picture I will use as a nice help you look for issues type lesson. The third pic is exactly what you don't want to see. Look at screen on then look at awake. Those two in a good battery setup should match almost exactly. This current pic tells me I have some form of rouge app causing it to wake frequently which is where the idle drain will come from now its on me to discover where the issues lie often I use android tuner to see what apps have been running in standby.

Edit: doing some digging I found my big issue was maps with some audio settings being my second biggest issue. I went ahead and rectified them and hope to see improvements.
This is good info. I checked my awake time on mine and it was pretty much empty. This may be why I'm getting great battery.
 

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