Just got my N6!!!

[Premium1]

Soon after the iPhone 5S's Apple A7 was announced I thought that it would immediately mean that Snapdragon will start working on 64 bit SOCs that will make 32 bit SOCs obsolete pretty fast.

That didn't come true, now almost two years later Snapdragon does offer a number of 64 bit SOCs however 32 bit still exists and is the most popular.

In technology you'll not ever have the latest and greatest forever as technology moves at a faster pace than we could ever imagine.

Android isn't an OS which requires beastly specifications any longer, hell even the 2013 Moto X with the dual core processor and Adreno 320 GPU can perform extremely we'll!

Most improvements with performance that Android needs any longer are probably going to be in software, not really in hardware.

Plus the Snapdragon 808 and 810 SOCs may actually be slower than existing 800/801/805 because of the fact that 808 and 810 will be octa core chips, and to the best of my knowledge less and more powerful cores serve a better purpose for day to day tasks than weaker and more powerful cores.

Nexus 6 is a great device, hell even the Nexus 5 is still a great device and the Nexus 4 ain't half bad either.

it is funny that all the 64bit chips we are seeing are in the "mid range models" it will be interesting to see how the 808/810 perform and if they shift the chip focus to 64 bit for more manufacturers.

 

[salmanahmad]

it is funny that all the 64bit chips we are seeing are in the "mid range models" it will be interesting to see how the 808/810 perform and if they shift the chip focus to 64 bit for more manufacturers.

The 808 and 810 will definitely arrive very soon.

However I've done expensive research on the fact of why dual core processors can outpace quad or octa cores one.

Putting thermal throttling or architecture aside, most general everyday tasks *REQUIRE* more powerful cores, but not more cores. This is the reason why SOCs like the Apple A8 and Tegra K1 64 bit edition are absolute beasts.

While quad cores can do the same job a dual core one can do, the power is divided among much weaker cores. Less powerful but more cores are extremely essential for video editing and processing, but who does that on a phone? Even if you do, dual or quad will be just fine on phones

Unless Snapdragon makes the individual cores significantly stronger in the 808 and 810 instead of further dividing the SOC into another 4 cores, there will be virtually no real performance gain between the 800/805 and the 808/810, at least in general fluidity, maybe a few games may start taking advantage of the cores.

I wish Snapdragon would follow Nvidia and Apple's path and reduce the number of cores instead of increasing them.

 

[Premium1]

The 808 and 810 will definitely arrive very soon.

However I've done expensive research on the fact of why dual core processors can outpace quad or octa cores one.

Putting thermal throttling or architecture aside, most general everyday tasks *REQUIRE* more powerful cores, but not more cores. This is the reason why SOCs like the Apple A8 and Tegra K1 64 bit edition are absolute beasts.

While quad cores can do the same job a dual core one can do, the power is divided among much weaker cores. Less powerful but more cores are extremely essential for video editing and processing, but who does that on a phone? Even if you do, dual or quad will be just fine on phones

Unless Snapdragon makes the individual cores significantly stronger in the 808 and 810 instead of further dividing the SOC into another 4 cores, there will be virtually no real performance gain between the 800/805 and the 808/810, at least in general fluidity, maybe a few games may start taking advantage of the cores.

I wish Snapdragon would follow Nvidia and Apple's path and reduce the number of cores instead of increasing them.

But as the cores increase, they have also increased the power with the cores using less power. And the 64 bit new chips are supposed to use even more powerful cores, but like everything, only time will tell. Not to mention the apple chips cruise in GPU compared to the competition, not as much of a leader in the CPU department.

 

[salmanahmad]

But as the cores increase, they have also increased the power with the cores using less power. And the 64 bit new chips are supposed to use even more powerful cores, but like everything, only time will tell. Not to mention the apple chips cruise in GPU compared to the competition, not as much of a leader in the CPU department.

Obviously Snapdragon will work on making individual cores stronger, they do that with each iteration but then difference isn't huge, the power is still often into divided more cores.

Plus Snapdragon can't do a whole lot to improve battery on the 808 or 810 as opposed to the 805 used in the Nexus 6 because of the fact that both chips would still be made on a 28nm process.

And if the Snapdragon 615(64 bit hexa core) in the Desire 820 gives us any idea of how future Snapdragon multi core processors will be like, the future doesn't seem extremely bright.

I recently watched a gaming test on the Snapdragon 615 and when the device was cool games ran smoothly, but it quickly became extremely hot and thermal throttling kicked in full gear. Maybe it has to do with the phone's construction, but I think Snapdragon's processor may be more at fault.

Don't know about the GPU, but Apple have been pushing out some amazing CPUs, and this year I think they've bested both Snapdragon and Nvidia in benchmarks for the first time with the Apple A8X chip on the iPad.

Apple's A8 chips built on the 20nm architecture are works of art, unlike the big.LITTLE configuration in many Snapdragon devices, the Cyclone enhanced architecture in the A8 allows it to run at full speed for longer (close to no thermal throttle).

Anyways, we may be going off topic. All in all the Nexus 6's SOC will perform like a boss! Even when the 808 and 810 are launched.