Just over 6 hours and down to 26% Bad battery, something else?

[tkemack]

So you're saying because a 3rd party widget is wrong that freaking TIME itself is skewed? Go troll somewhere else. You know damn well that my shots are legit and now you have egg on your face. It's ok to be wrong my friend.

sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 Epic longest phone name in the world Touch 4G

 

[dammitcubs]

Re: Just over 6 hours and down to 26% Bad battery, something else

So far I get about 10 to 12 hours. I haven't really complained, I say that if you use the phone it should drain. its when I don't use the phone that it should last. When I sleep, i don't want it dropping 50% maybe only 10% thats the most important to me because what if I'm at someone's house, i crash there, i have 30% battery. I don't want it to drain.

That said, one thing epic 4g touch does well is that it doesn't drain the battery much when the screen is off.

I went on a trip today and the phone last 10 hours. Considering about one hour of GPS, constant checking of website because of football, text messages, an hour or so of calling. I think its fair to say it lasted long enough. But i would like to know how people squeeze out more hours. I have Facebook, twitter, google+, touchdown exchange, gmail and trillion running in the background.

 

[youngjediboy]

Re: Just over 6 hours and down to 26% Bad battery, something else

Please, no need to name call each other! We're just trying to find out why the battery life seems to vary so much between users. Some of you seem to easily get 10-15 (or more) hours of normal/average use of the phone but some of us (at least I can say I am) not using the phone that much and I'm lucky to get HALF of that many hours of battery life. We're trying to figure out why.

 

[dguidry12]

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Please, no need to name call each other! We're just trying to find out why the battery life seems to vary so much between users. Some of you seem to easily get 10-15 (or more) hours of normal/average use of the phone but some of us (at least I can say I am) not using the phone that much and I'm lucky to get HALF of that many hours of battery life. We're trying to figure out why.

All you guys have to do is got to the forums on Sprint and you will see the main issue with this phone is the POOR signal strength that has HUGE drain factors on the battery.. But guys do yourselves a favor and try my little test. browse for 15 minutes and you will lose 1% per minute on battery.. And with a poor receptive device that makes battery drain worse and processors work harder.

They have 3 more days to fix or im getting my photon back.

 

[sndplace]

Re: Just over 6 hours and down to 26% Bad battery, something else

Yes I do have the Epic Touch no need to put names of what I have on here. I don't believe you get a day out of it..Its impossible to say you get 24 hours out of a smart phone..The sheer size of the screen makes your statement false..

Not all people use the phone like others do. THATS what you have to understand and i don't think you do. You don't have to believe anyone nor anyone has to prove to you anything. It is possible to have your phone unplugged and depending on your use last for 24+ hours till you have to plug it in again.

It is impossible..I can show you a screen shot RIGHT NOW that says my battery hasn't been connected to a charger for 16 hours.. The FACT of the matter is that this phone's battery usage stats are all screwed up..I tell you what im going to make a video show you the TRUTH.. No self gratification from a phone needed here.. Heck just tell the truth!!!

The truth is it is possible for some people based on how we use our phones.

My point was that its a know FACT that the battery statistics in the phone is not correct. For example, the battery can be actually at 80% full but on the juice display in the right upper corner the indicator will give you more close to 95%. Just install a battery widget and you can tell the difference. Thanks,

Yes i have a battery widget and it shows different from the stock one but when your widget hits 15% the stock battery is not at half full is it? The way the stock battery shows how much battery power is left is off abit from full till about 30% left but the end result is if it shows battery power left on the stock symbol your phone is usable and to the average user that is what matters not if it 100% accurate or not.

All you guys have to do is got to the forums on Sprint and you will see the main issue with this phone is the POOR signal strength that has HUGE drain factors on the battery.. But guys do yourselves a favor and try my little test. browse for 15 minutes and you will lose 1% per minute on battery.. And with a poor receptive device that makes battery drain worse and processors work harder. They have 3 more days to fix or im getting my photon back.

SO to those who don't this signal problem is it possible to get better battery life then to those who don't ?
If you are willing to believe a person who post that the radio in this phone socks and there battery drains so fast so to signal strength so easily , why is it impossible to believe that we can get 24 hours of battery life ? Some one posted that they put a different zip code because where they live Sprint wouldn't give them a phone due to poor service in that area. something is up with either the radios or the way TW 4.0 is acting. But i have and others here also are getting better battery life out of this phone . way more then my old Epic4G. How ever it is being achieved it is happening.

 

[Cotano]

Re: Just over 6 hours and down to 26% Bad battery, something else

One thing that I have learned is to simply IGNORE the ubber fabricated details and screen shots you see on here.. The facts are this ..It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for a phone to get 14 hours of battery life from what most call "normal" usuage. I even see foolish claims that some people say they get 30 hours of battery life..Its just not scientifically possible when you take in all of the factors that effect battery life. Some people need self phone gratification and I don't know why.. But my friend if you use the phone as I do 1. 1.5 hours using web 2. 100 text message 3. 30 minutes voice calls 4. Push emails set at 15 minutes you will only FACTUALLY get 7 hours of time at the most before you hit 15% battery. And when you hit 15 percent battery then you will FACTUALLY see a drastic decrease in battery performance due to decreased voltage. I challenge you to fully charge the phone and then use it for 15 minutes at one time browsing the web. I guarantee you that you will lose 1% of battery per minute of use..Do it and see for yourself.

Also it IS the phone and not Sprints network.. The phone has multiple reception issues.

I rarely use my phone as a web browser. I have other apps that for me in a more efficient manor. My average browse time in a day is like maybe 30 minutes total. I spend about a hour or so on the phone and maybe 30 or 40 text a day. I also play a few games. I avoid the battery hungry games when I'm not connect to a charger. However, this phone closes games... I don't know why but it is annoying.

Normally around bed time my battery is around that 16 hour time my battery is around between 50% and 10% depending on my signal. I highly believe that someone could get 30 hours of battery of normal usage if they live in a well covered signal area. But we all call normal usage different things. Again, I haven't gotten 30 hours but I have had 16 hours at 50% battery. Not plugging up my phone while sleeping and getting ready for work would probably give me another 8+ hours with maybe 10% or less battery use. I doubt that would be fair to post because I'm not using my phone while I'm sleeping.

To manage my phone even longer I recently brought a car charger and I carry a usb with me at work since I work with pcs I can charge my phone while working. I haven't even had to use my spare battery yet.

On another note: Some people don't seem to understand the point of turning everything off when we are facing battery problems. The purpose of doing this isn't so we can make it through a day of use without having the phone die on us or at least that shouldn't be the purpose. My purpose of doing these things is to find out what is causing the battery to drain so fast. So I'll go one day without anything and see what is happening and then slowly start to add everything back overtime till I determined what the problem is.

So you're saying because a 3rd party widget is wrong that freaking TIME itself
is skewed? Go troll somewhere else. You know damn well that my shots are legit and now you have egg on your face. It's ok to be wrong my friend.

sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 Epic longest phone name in the world Touch 4G

My battery widget and phone has been wrong before. When I first got it was really off. Went down to 0% and I used it for another before it actually died. A widget can only read what a phone is telling it and at times that can be off. Reminds me a lot of a laptop battery.

I think the above user is correct. What really makes the difference is time itself.

Edit: I haven't used my device much today. Two phone calls a few e-mails and text and a little browsing of the internet and market. Going to use my gps soon so I'm going to plug it in later.

 

[Citymusic08]

Re: Just over 6 hours and down to 26% Bad battery, something else

Update! Got 29 hours today (ignore the charging sign, I only plugged it in for 1% and took a screenshot) The drops were from listening to music as well as uploading a video to Facebook.

 

[youngjediboy]

Re: Just over 6 hours and down to 26% Bad battery, something else

Update! Got 29 hours today (ignore the charging sign, I only plugged it in for 1% and took a screenshot) The drops were from listening to music as well as uploading a video to Facebook. Click to view quoted image

HOW in the world are you getting that kind of battery life? I see your phone signal is as yellow as mine so it can't a weak signal to blame. And you're mentioning listening to music and uploading video so you're actually using your phone and not just using it as a shiny paperweight. So HOW are you doing? Do you have some special battery saving app or something?

 

[Citymusic08]

Re: Just over 6 hours and down to 26% Bad battery, something else

HOW in the world are you getting that kind of battery life? I see your phone signal is as yellow as mine so it can't a weak signal to blame. And you're mentioning listening to music and uploading video so you're actually using your phone and not just using it as a shiny paperweight. So HOW are you doing? Do you have some special battery saving app or something?

Wifi on whenever it's available so 3G data doesn't drain the battery, background data/sync off at all times/manual only, brightness low at all times, display on for 15 seconds, no vibration whatsoever including haptic feedback, didn't browse the web but would text, tweet and check notifications from time to time, animations off, going into applications settings and turning off running apps that i dont need from time to time that may have spontaneously restarted i.e. dictionary.com, fb, google+, skype. Oh and I made sure to charge it to 100% beforehand (when it said 100 I unplugged it and plugged it back in, it was really at 90) also set powersave to come on at 70%.

 

[youngjediboy]

Re: Just over 6 hours and down to 26% Bad battery, something else

Wifi on whenever it's available so 3G data doesn't drain the battery, background data/sync off at all times/manual only, brightness low at all times, display on for 15 seconds, no vibration whatsoever including haptic feedback, didn't browse the web but would text, tweet and check notifications from time to time, animations off, going into applications settings and turning off running apps that i dont need from time to time that may have spontaneously restarted i.e. dictionary.com, fb, google+, skype. Oh and I made sure to charge it to 100% beforehand (when it said 100 I unplugged it and plugged it back in, it was really at 90) also set powersave to come on at 70%.

I've never thought about turning off the animations and haptic feedback even... but I think I will try that tomorrow and see if I can get anywhere near your battery life.

Are you using any task managers or monitors to keep apps from spontaneously starting?

I just did a factory reset on my phone so it should be clean of any rogue apps and I want to see if I can emulate this kind of battery life. If you can do it and you also have "yellow" phone signal then I should be able to also.

 

[Citymusic08]

Re: Just over 6 hours and down to 26% Bad battery, something else

I've never thought about turning off the animations and haptic feedback even... but I think I will try that tomorrow and see if I can get anywhere near your battery life.

Are you using any task managers or monitors to keep apps from spontaneously starting?

I just did a factory reset on my phone so it should be clean of any rogue apps and I want to see if I can emulate this kind of battery life. If you can do it and you also have "yellow" phone signal then I should be able to also.

Nah I don't i just go and check every now and then and also turning off 3G data might help tremendously

 

[Cotano]

Re: Just over 6 hours and down to 26% Bad battery, something else

I'm going to use mines a little more before bed. I did charge it on the way to work through usb with the gps on. But keep in mind that this was a usb charge and not a car charger because i forgot my car charger at home...

On the way back I had to charge my bluetooth and still used my gps a bit to avoid the traffic. I think I had over a hour or 2 of talk time and used the web a little more than usual. I have full animations and vibration on. My screen stays around 70% of brightness.

Keep in mind my battery isn't the best it could be. That is how I wish to use my phone and I'm happy to see it last the entire day under such use. Despite what some people seem to think I am not in a contest to see who can have the longest battery life. I just wanted to know that you didn't have to stop everything on your phone in order for it to get decent battery life.

Edit: Pay special attention to what the gps did to my battery while the phone wasn't charging. That is the type of stuff you want to avoid doing if possible.

 

[t0t]

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I have a bit of a noob question.. kinda unrelated, but in those battery graphs, what is the difference between the reading up top above the graph, and the reading below above 'phone signal'?

 

[Krasin]

Are you rooted? If you are, you could try an app called setcpu to underclock your phone while the screen is off. It helps for times when you don't used your phone a lot like at work.

Edit: I just hope Sprint pushes out a radio fix for you guys (Evo 4G here).

 

[taylormah]

Re: Just over 6 hours and down to 26% Bad battery, something else

I have a bit of a noob question.. kinda unrelated, but in those battery graphs, what is the difference between the reading up top above the graph, and the reading below above 'phone signal'?

Yeah, the same question, and what is the difference between colors on the Phone Signal bar. I believe it can have 2-3 shades of yellow, green and red. What is the difference?

 

[youngjediboy]

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I've been getting mostly yellows so I just figure my Sprint signal isn't that good.
It sucks because I DO get a connection and haven't had any problems with dropped calls, but 3G speeds aren't very fast for me and I've just been keeping 4G off because that's just been spotty at best. I've called Sprint about it and they weren't much help since I am getting voice and data connections without them dropping or disconnecting.

Ok so earlier today I did a factory reset and have been trying to see if it helped with battery life and it's better than when I started this thread, but it's still nowhere near the battery life some of you guys have been getting.
This along with this random stuck/phantom capacitative button issues that's popped up is having me think I have a hardware problem.

 

[bsmoove386]

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I rarely use my phone as a web browser. I have other apps that for me in a more efficient manor. My average browse time in a day is like maybe 30 minutes total. I spend about a hour or so on the phone and maybe 30 or 40 text a day. I also play a few games. I avoid the battery hungry games when I'm not connect to a charger. However, this phone closes games... I don't know why but it is annoying.

Normally around bed time my battery is around that 16 hour time my battery is around between 50% and 10% depending on my signal. I highly believe that someone could get 30 hours of battery of normal usage if they live in a well covered signal area. But we all call normal usage different things. Again, I haven't gotten 30 hours but I have had 16 hours at 50% battery. Not plugging up my phone while sleeping and getting ready for work would probably give me another 8+ hours with maybe 10% or less battery use. I doubt that would be fair to post because I'm not using my phone while I'm sleeping.

To manage my phone even longer I recently brought a car charger and I carry a usb with me at work since I work with pcs I can charge my phone while working. I haven't even had to use my spare battery yet.

On another note: Some people don't seem to understand the point of turning everything off when we are facing battery problems. The purpose of doing this isn't so we can make it through a day of use without having the phone die on us or at least that shouldn't be the purpose. My purpose of doing these things is to find out what is causing the battery to drain so fast. So I'll go one day without anything and see what is happening and then slowly start to add everything back overtime till I determined what the problem is.




My battery widget and phone has been wrong before. When I first got it was really off. Went down to 0% and I used it for another before it actually died. A widget can only read what a phone is telling it and at times that can be off. Reminds me a lot of a laptop battery.

I think the above user is correct. What really makes the difference is time itself.

Edit: I haven't used my device much today. Two phone calls a few e-mails and text and a little browsing of the internet and market. Going to use my gps soon so I'm going to plug it in later.

Do you have your emails automatically syncing? I had great batt life 18hrs+ but I'm not entirely sure of how valid this statement is because I only had the phone for two days only running on wifi with twitter and gmail and facebook autosyncing and my phone wasn't activated yet. (I wanted to see how much of an improvement it was before switching over as well as learning bout the pros n con of the current root methods) then i rooted my epic touch and added and restore data for apps i had on my Evo. Now whenever I browse the net or go on twitter i can see my batt percentages decreasing by 1 every few minutes. So I installed juice defender turning off data whenever and connecting to wifi. I have had watchdog and system panel installed to monitor. I dont see any apps causing a drain just system is high. In my system processes I see suspend and events/0 (something like that) at high cpu percentage. But im sure suspend has to be like an idle service right?! :-\ (I also feel like me restoring my data from my Evo has something to do it could I be wrong? Or maybe my sd card do i need to reformat it since it was partitioned for my Evo?

I have seen on XDA that auto sync seems to be a problem with high android usage. I have go launcher ex installed and no background apps everything is manual. I only have my g mail auto sync. I used my phone yesterday a little less than heavy (I'm a very heavy user I text all day. I tweet almost every 10-15 mins. Go on the net every once in awhile. Look on pulse every hour). But yesterday I kept it limited I saw my phone last til about 19% at 10pm from a 99% charge at 2:50pm. So about 7 hours I say but I wasn't using it like I normally do. I can charge my phone at work and I have class after work (usually from 3-5) so I usually charge at work so it doesnt die on me during classes.My rooted Evo on Synergy would only last about 5 hours on full charge) But i really would love to go from 7am-5pm on a single charge easily since I'm always kind of available to charge my phone.

Today at work I had a full charge at 7:15am. I"m going to use my phone all day like I "normally" would and see how long it lasts me. I also have power saving on at 50% turning off auto sync and screen timeout to 15 secs. If it doesn't at least last me til about 2pm before hitting below 50%. I'm going to try using my phone tomorrow with auto sync off period and setup my gmail on email syncing every30 mins