lossless camera

[willis936]

Does anyone know of a setting or an app that saves camera pictures in lossless formats like png?

I really notice the jpeg artifacts when I zoom in on pictures. It does take stellar pictures but when displayed at native resolution they look atrocious. I noticed the filesize is small for the resolution and realized they must be compressing them really hardcore.

 

[FrankXS]

I noticed the filesize is small for the resolution and realized they must be compressing them really hardcore.

I noticed that too. My guess is that the lens is not adaquate to offer any real improvement by using less compression, so...

-Frank

 

[willis936]

Still, every bit (literally) counts. It may not look stellar but at least it would offer more room for digital enhancement than the blocky compression. I'm really surprised there's no android setting for this and that there isn't some popular app that found a way to properly implement a lossless camera.

EDIT: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4514862/android-impossible-to-obtain-raw-image-data-from-camera

Looks like a pretty stubborn android issue. Perhaps later versions of android will support raw data but since like you said the difference in quality would be minimal it might be a while (better camera technologies etc.)

 

[Forgetful]

I've noticed the same thing too. 8megpix should not produce a 1.5Mb file...

 

[bulldogmoe7]

its a PHONE.

 

[willis936]

You're right. It's not a camera despite the fact it has comparable quality to 100 dollar point and shoots. Expecting to not expect more is sacrilege on android.

 

[androidburn]

its a PHONE.

Agreed - but why not make the most of the camera if you can?

 

[Psykonate]

its a PHONE.

Great answer!

Not too long ago, getting an 8mp digital camera was an expensive adventure if at all doable! Now, thats available in a phone and digital cameras are commonly seeing 12mp.

There will always be those that are never satisfied with what they have, they will always want more and more and never be grateful for the amazing things they have that weren't even imaginable a few years ago.

 

[Forgetful]

Great answer!

Not too long ago, getting an 8mp digital camera was an expensive adventure if at all doable! Now, thats available in a phone and digital cameras are commonly seeing 12mp.

There will always be those that are never satisfied with what they have, they will always want more and more and never be grateful for the amazing things they have that weren't even imaginable a few years ago.

With that attitude we'd still be in the stone age.
I'm all about advancement. Once we stop striving for improvement that will be a sad day for mankind.


It's embarrassing that a 5mp camera from last summer made by apple produces just as good if not better quality photos than ours.

 

[SHO95#AC]

With that attitude we'd still be in the stone age.
I'm all about advancement. Once we stop striving for improvement that will be a sad day for mankind.


It's embarrassing that a 5mp camera from last summer made by apple produces just as good if not better quality photos than ours.

How is this embarrassing in fact after I put the pictures in Lightroom the looks great and better than those by 5mp you stated. Be side most pictures that are printed are 4 x6 and at the most 8 x 10 which a 8 mp is pointless to have anyways. Don't forget that when you view using windows photo gallery don't really depict how they are going to come out when printed.

 

[willis936]

Whats the logic behind that? If it looks bad digital then it'll look much worse on a higher pixel pitch. You can do digital enhancement but at the end of the day you'll never have as good of quality than a good source. Jpeg is archaic and total crap. Using it as standard on android which has enough hardware horsepower and memory on most of its devices to support better quality seems silly.

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[SHO95#AC]

Whats the logic behind that? If it looks bad digital then it'll look much worse on a higher pixel pitch. You can do digital enhancement but at the end of the day you'll never have as good of quality than a good source. Jpeg is archaic and total crap. Using it as standard on android which has enough hardware horsepower and memory on most of its devices to support better quality seems silly.

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But in a cell phone it don't mater. The sensors and lens that are use on mobile device are not adequate to provide this higher quality image regardless of file type. This is why you need to get your self a dedicated camera to achieve this higher "quality" images if this a major issue for people. I for one love how they come out printed.

 

[willis936]

If you record a song on a bad mic and compress it to mp3 92 kb/s it will sound worse than if you keep it at cd quality. Introducing more compression to low quality sources is never a good idea.

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[SHO95#AC]

If you record a song on a bad mic and compress it to mp3 92 kb/s it will sound worse than if you keep it at cd quality. Introducing more compression to low quality sources is never a good idea.

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Actually in this case is more like cd quality to mp3. Compress but gets the job done unless your going dj ing.

 

[darkmatter]

Someone should partner with canon or nikon and get some decent sensors for a phone.

If you take out the optical zoom, I'm sure a camera like the canon s95 could hold extra hardware to be a phone. Sure, it would be a bit thicker, but it would be worth it. Even with a crappy sensor, is it possible to get shutter/iso etc settings via software for an android?

Sony, at least, seems to be putting some effort into the camera of the xperia phones beyond simply increasing megapixels.

 

[SHO95#AC]

That's cause Sony makes their own sensors which the provide to nikon. They can do it but I'm sure that would increase the price of the phones.

 

[willis936]

The jpeg compression is atrocious. I understand the camera is limited in quality but the fact is that the digital leg of the compression process isn't up to snuff. Applying some filters to the raw file and compressing to png would yield a much better end result. There is no reason that I should see jpeg artifacts at native resolution.

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[Forgetful]

Has anyone figured out how to make the saved images better? I work with PS a lot and it's painfully easy to tell these images are not what they could/should be.

 

[SHO95#AC]

Has anyone figured out how to make the saved images better? I work with PS a lot and it's painfully easy to tell these images are not what they could/should be.

The only thing I found so far is un-selecting the wide screen option.

 

[willis936]

From what I've gathered it's actually an android issue. The platform itself doesn't support raw data from cameras. There may be a possible software fix fire this but it would be a nightmare to debug and it may end up being a hardware issue as well. As of now I can't seem to find any actual solutions from developers.

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