First let me say that the service you all provide is invaluable to us less capable or Linux challenged users... but when a "sticky'ed" thread reaches an extreme length, it would be nice if you archived it with a linked reference, and rephrased the lead-in to express the current state of the issues... if we get behind, reading through 2000 replies gets so confusing that it looses it's focus and value... Again.. I love what you're doing, and I don't want to miss any new development, but I'm almost afraid to stop to breath!!! I'll never catch up... With respect and appreciation... DJ