Most stable option?

salanester

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I've been poking around for quite some time now in the Nook Color forum (I'm usually in the Incredible forum) and am thinking of finally getting one. I feel comfortable and will eventually try just about all the methods, but what do you all feel is the most stable way to do things? Just root stock and run 2.1 or froyo off the sd card?
 
I ran Honeycomb off the SD card for the first day, but since it was mainly for the misses I wasn't happy with it. I put Nookie Froyo on the SD card and both of us couldn't be much happier with its performance for $250.
 
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Went back and forth for awhile and decided to buy one last week. This is my configuration:

Updated to 1.1.0 and rooted. For it's purpose, I am very happy with it. Although I will give nookie (froyo on sd card) a try this weekend to see how stable froyo is. It would be nice to stream movies and use flash for downtime, but I mainly use it as an e-reader and it does it's job.

**note, if you plan to stay with the stock root option, you might not want to update to 1.1. The reason I say this is because the current ClockworkMod doesn't work with autonooter 1.1. The best option is to root the version prior to it and then use a custom ROM. Best of luck!
 
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I've been using Froyo off the microSD card for a little over a week now and couldn't be happier. Takes a bit of getting used to the SoftKeys rather than having dedicated buttons, but I hardly even notice it now.

My card claims to be a Class 6 and that's a bit generous, although it benchmark reads at Class 10 rates, which is good.

Have found a couple of apps that don't work, and some others that aren't available without switching my fingerprint...but then that makes some that were available not, so then I switch back....

I'll probably try Honeycomb when it's actually released and stable. Not too keen on doing more testing for people.

I figure I saved a couple hundred bucks over what the WiFi-only tablets will cost when they're actually available. And, hey, I can use that for booze!
 
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I have used the stock ROM, Nookie off the SD and Nookie on eMMC. If you want to use the NC as a reader, I would suggest keeping the stock rooted ROM (although you can install various reader apps to other ROMs) and running Froyo or Honeycomb off the SD (get a high capacity, high class SD).

Since I don't plan to use the NC to read much, I love having Nookie on the internal memory. I have it overclocked, and it is fast enough for most applications. Nookie is still in development, but it is plenty stable for daily use in my opinion. Some apps don't work, and it takes some effort to get it up and running, but all doable with a bit of patience. The soft keys take some getting used to, WIFI refuses to stay active when NC goes to sleep, and some people have to manually shut down mediaserver to avoid wake issues and lag (not a huge effort, but requires some commands after every boot -- my NC used to act up, but I have not had to do this for the last week). I am optimistic that the bugs will continue to get worked out and that this thing can only improve as a tablet. The developer community seems to be fairly active on this device.

The safest and most stable configuration for now seems to be rooted stock and other ROMs off of SD, but I enjoy having Froyo on eMMC and find it plenty stable.
 
I had bad luck with an overclocked Froyo off SD. Had a lot of force closes and random reboots. I have been running a rooted Honeycomb v04 off SD since Sunday and am really enjoying the experience. I have had minimal problems with the OS. The wireless remains on consistently, even after going to sleep and I can readily tether to my Fascinate when I am away from wireless. There is a broad range of apps available to me on the market but not all. There is still the occasional force close and I cannot recall a random reboot yet.

I am running a Transcend 8GB, class 6 microSD card. I have not rooted my Nooks internal OS as of yet but will probably do so once I am convinced I am keeping this unit (vs the Motorola Xoom being released next week).
 
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...My card claims to be a Class 6 and that's a bit generous, although it benchmark reads at Class 10 rates, which is good...

What brand, and where did you buy it? I've read lots of claims here and on XDA, but no one says brands. Thanks!

...I love having Nookie on the internal memory. I have it overclocked, and it is fast enough for most applications...

I've found Nookie on internal to be fast, but I'd like to overclock. I'm just not certain how to do it. Is there a way to flash the OC kernel via CMR on microSD, or must I use ADB? How do I back up the current kernel so I can restore it? Thanks!
 
The stock Eclair (Android 2.1) is by far the most stable build available. Both Froyo and Honeycomb are still in early stages. They will eventually get the kinks worked out, but there are a lot of issues with compatibility and stability with either of these builds. Although some of the users that have posted above state that they don't have any major issues, many others have. The forums at XDA are filled with literally hundreds of posts by people who have had a wide variety of problems installing and running either Froyo or Honeycomb.
I am running rooted stock Eclair, B&N firmware 1.1.0, overclocked at 1.1ghz. Very stable.
If you would like to read for yourself the issues that people have with Froyo and Honeycomb, links for the XDA threads are below.

Nookie Froyo:
[ZIP][DEV][ROM] Nookie Froyo 0.6.7 (02/07) CWM flashable! - xda-developers

Honeycomb:
Android 3.0 Honeycomb Preview Image v04 - 2/7/2011 - xda-developers

Cheers
 
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I've found Nookie on internal to be fast, but I'd like to overclock. I'm just not certain how to do it. Is there a way to flash the OC kernel via CMR on microSD, or must I use ADB? How do I back up the current kernel so I can restore it? Thanks!

I am fairly certain that the only way to currently install an OC kernel to internal NF is via ADB (you can flash kernels to Eclair using CWM, but not Froyo). If you have ADB working, it is a relatively simple cut and paste process. Will's instructions in the sticky NF to internal memory post in this forum are helpful (URL not working for some reason).

The stock kernel and the various OC kernels can be found at XDA: [Kernel][Eclair][Froyo][Honeycomb] Overclocked@1.1ghz *New Froyo and HC* [2/6/11] - xda-developers

Sorry about the thread hijacking.
 
What brand, and where did you buy it? I've read lots of claims here and on XDA, but no one says brands. Thanks!

I started another thread about cards, classes, and benchmarks, hoping people would take up the bait and respond with their numbers. I bet it's back on page 2 or 3 now.

Anyway, mine is an 8GB ADATA card I got from MicroCenter. Some poor reviews of the 16GB one on NewEgg, though. Seen some good mentions for Kingston, some bad for PNY, some of both for SanDisk.

I'd say buy whatever you can find, benchmark it yourself, get a different one if it's crap.

- Dave
 
**note, if you plan to stay with the stock root option, you might not want to update to 1.1. The reason I say this is because the current ClockworkMod doesn't work with autonooter 1.1. The best option is to root the version prior to it and then use a custom ROM. Best of luck!

CWR does work with Autonooter 3.0 and 1.1.

- Root with AN3.0 and 1.1
- install Rom Manager
- Flash clockworkmod recovery in Rom Manager
- Reboot the nook (not into recovery, but a full regular reboot). This step is what people are skipping and getting a non-functional CWR. If you boot directly into recovery after flashing CWR, you'll get stuck in a CWR boot loop where the only way to get out is to flash a CWR-removal zip file.
- after rebooting back into 1.1 (i.e. the regular B&N software), open rom manager and boot into CWR.
- Now you can do nandroid backups... flash kernals... etc.
 
I had bad luck with an overclocked Froyo off SD. Had a lot of force closes and random reboots. I have been running a rooted Honeycomb v04 off SD since Sunday and am really enjoying the experience. I have had minimal problems with the OS. The wireless remains on consistently, even after going to sleep and I can readily tether to my Fascinate when I am away from wireless. There is a broad range of apps available to me on the market but not all. There is still the occasional force close and I cannot recall a random reboot yet.

I am running a Transcend 8GB, class 6 microSD card. I have not rooted my Nooks internal OS as of yet but will probably do so once I am convinced I am keeping this unit (vs the Motorola Xoom being released next week).

Wow, are you me? I mean its like looking into a mirror. Lol
Same setup, same card. Never tried froyo though.
The only problem I am having is not having the full market, just need to figure out how to change my fingerprint.
 
Thanks for all the replies.

I ended up first just froyo off the sd card, but I had a terrible time with ADB. Finally got that to work and then I went ahead and rooted 1.1 using autonooter 3. I think now that I have played with it and done those things I'm opting for just getting one of the tablets coming out soon. I love the thing, but I think I just wanted to go through the process of modding it just to do it. I'd probably just rather drop a couple extra hundred (or 3) for a dedicated tablet.

If anyone is still on the fence like I was I would say give it a shot...it isn't difficult with all the help you find here and is a viable tablet option.
 
CWR won't work with 1.1 for me.

CWR does work with Autonooter 3.0 and 1.1.

- Root with AN3.0 and 1.1
- install Rom Manager
- Flash clockworkmod recovery in Rom Manager
- Reboot the nook (not into recovery, but a full regular reboot). This step is what people are skipping and getting a non-functional CWR. If you boot directly into recovery after flashing CWR, you'll get stuck in a CWR boot loop where the only way to get out is to flash a CWR-removal zip file.
- after rebooting back into 1.1 (i.e. the regular B&N software), open rom manager and boot into CWR.
- Now you can do nandroid backups... flash kernals... etc.

This did not work for me. I :
- restored my Nook to 1.0.1
- updated to 1.1
- installl Rom Manager
- Flashed clockworkmod recovery in Rom Manager
- Rebooted - a full regular reboot
- Booted into CWR using the Rom Manager
- Performed a back-up ( no issues )
- Rebooted (went into boot loop with CWR)

So, I still can't get CWR to work with 1.1
 
I think 1.1.0 rooted (no OC) is very stable. Mine has never hung or had any connectivity issue.
 
What brand, and where did you buy it? I've read lots of claims here and on XDA, but no one says brands. Thanks

Fwiw, I deal with electronics and portable flash memory at a professional level on a daily basis. I do not recommend, nor do any of my manufacturers, any brand other than SanDisk. I typically source mine from a few ebay sellers unless one of the local brick & mortar guys are having a good sale. Currently my NC has a 16gb class 4 that cost me $28 shipped.

Sent from my Honey Nook using Tapatalk
 
I typically source mine from a few ebay sellers unless one of the local brick & mortar guys are having a good sale. Currently my NC has a 16gb class 4 that cost me $28 shipped.

Any chance you could share your 'trusted' ebay sellers? I would like to go with 16GB first, but have had a hell of a time finding a decent brand/price combo.

Also, is Class 4 (on the SanDisk 16GB) enough for the Nook running videos, and all? I agree, I have only heard good things about SanDisk.
 
Any chance you could share your 'trusted' ebay sellers? I would like to go with 16GB first, but have had a hell of a time finding a decent brand/price combo.

Also, is Class 4 (on the SanDisk 16GB) enough for the Nook running videos, and all? I agree, I have only heard good things about SanDisk.

Yes, class 4 worked just fine for me. Here's a link to a listing from the same folks I bought mine from:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sandisk-16GB-Mi...gital_Camera_Memory_Cards&hash=item2eb39bcf19

Sent from my Honey Nook via Tapatalk
 
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i was running rooted 1.1 which is definitely the most stable. once i decided to get a little risky, i tried froyo on emmc whic i actually didnt like due to instability issues. i went back to rooted 1.1 for a while, and now im on cm7 nightly 12 OC'd on emmc and couldnt be happier. flash runs great, i can even play certain flash games that dont require a keyboard, and all of the mobile kongregate games work great. dsp isnt working yet, so youtube app and the like arent working, but youtube.com is better in my opinion anyway. for regular video viewing i use rockplayer. all in all there is some instability in cm7, because they ARE nightlies, but the added features outweigh the slight stability lost from 1.1. it really is a matter of opinion, and if you are going for pure stability go for 1.1, but cm7 really is worth a look.
 

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