Moto X+1

[garyart1]

I was really anticipating and excited about the release of the x+1. I was planning on buying it on day of release. I am starting to second guess this plan. It seems the specs are pointing at the low end, the talk of inclusion of a sd card has diminished, the renders don't excite me and now I read the second speaker grill and button on back is fake. There also is some exciting motorolas rumored to arrive soon; shamu, x play, turbo. I am thinking now unless motorola comes out with some surprise on the x+1 announcement, it may be wise to wait it out a few months to see what comes to life. Any opinions/advise?

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[livetoride4666]

I was really anticipating and excited about the release of the x+1. I was planning on buying it on day of release. I am starting to second guess this plan. It seems the specs are pointing at the low end, the talk of inclusion of a sd card has diminished, the renders don't excite me and now I read the second speaker grill and button on back is fake. There also is some exciting motorolas rumored to arrive soon; shamu, x play, turbo. I am thinking now unless motorola comes out with some surprise on the x+1 announcement, it may be wise to wait it out a few months to see what comes to life. Any opinions/advise?

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Did you honestly think it would come with high end specs??

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[delrey1900]

I was really anticipating and excited about the release of the x+1. I was planning on buying it on day of release. I am starting to second guess this plan. It seems the specs are pointing at the low end, the talk of inclusion of a sd card has diminished, the renders don't excite me and now I read the second speaker grill and button on back is fake. There also is some exciting motorolas rumored to arrive soon; shamu, x play, turbo. I am thinking now unless motorola comes out with some surprise on the x+1 announcement, it may be wise to wait it out a few months to see what comes to life. Any opinions/advise?

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And hasn't the original X proven that you don't need high end specs to have a great smart phone experience?

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[NoYankees44]

I was really anticipating and excited about the release of the x+1. I was planning on buying it on day of release. I am starting to second guess this plan. It seems the specs are pointing at the low end, the talk of inclusion of a sd card has diminished, the renders don't excite me and now I read the second speaker grill and button on back is fake. There also is some exciting motorolas rumored to arrive soon; shamu, x play, turbo. I am thinking now unless motorola comes out with some surprise on the x+1 announcement, it may be wise to wait it out a few months to see what comes to life. Any opinions/advise?

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While I agree that there are devices in the pipeline that may be worth waiting to see, there is nothing about the leaked specs that are low end.

It has the same processor as the m8, S5, and g3. The only other processor that it could have is the 805 which i do not believe has made its way to a device yet, at least not in the West. Plus the 805 is still 32bit and not much faster than the 805. Especially at 1080p.

The only other thing you could argue is not bleeding edge is the 1080P resolution. I am sorry but I see no benefit from 1440p on a 5" screen. I would rather have that graphic power be put towards something else.

 

[garyart1]

Did you honestly think it would come with high end specs??

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No. I didn't expect cutting edge specs but now it seems like we are back to the 800 processor at a slower clocked speed rather than the 801. Also originally it was rumored to have a sd drive but I am not so sure it will. I will have to see. I can do a 64 gb without a sd (which there is little chance Verizon will carry) or a 32 gb w/o. But that is just me. I like my music and movies on my device and not in the cloud. I always try to buy the best available device that will last me. I keep my phones approximately 2-3 years and I want something with the power to last. Not something that is obsolete a month after I buy. Also they were taking at the begining that the x+1 is going to be Motorola's flagship phone. It sounds more like one of the other releases will be more like a flagship. I will wait and see

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[Clocks]

A moderate spec bump and a better camera and I can't stop throwing my money at the screen.

I've finished my due diligence on everything else in the market and while the g3 excites me I don't want to go back to that size of a phone.

Just need a decent price and some reviews to address the obvious stuff like real world performance.

 

[Aquila]

Did you honestly think it would come with high end specs??

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And hasn't the original X proven that you don't need high end specs to have a great smart phone experience?

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What are the "low" specs being rumored? Everything I've heard/seen has pointed to a 1080p display (around 423 PPI) and quadcore Snapdragon 801 MSM8x74 AC (probably MSM8974 AC), with 2GB RAM, much larger battery, etc. That's budget?

 

[mogelijk]

No. I didn't expect cutting edge specs but now it seems like we are back to the 800 processor at a slower clocked speed rather than the 801. Also originally it was rumored to have a sd drive but I am not so sure it will. I will have to see. I can do a 64 gb without a sd (which there is little chance Verizon will carry) or a 32 gb w/o. But that is just me. I like my music and movies on my device and not in the cloud. I always try to buy the best available device that will last me. I keep my phones approximately 2-3 years and I want something with the power to last. Not something that is obsolete a month after I buy. Also they were taking at the begining that the x+1 is going to be Motorola's flagship phone. It sounds more like one of the other releases will be more like a flagship. I will wait and see

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The main difference between the 800 and 801 is the speed difference, the 801 is a few percent faster (less than 10% faster). The only other difference is the 801 supports eMMC 5.0, but that shouldn't really matter if the X+1 doesn't have an SD card slot. Most people would never notice the difference between the two chips (or even the 805). Also, having the 801 will not really improve the longevity of your phone - they are still the same generation of chips, just the 801 was "tweaked" to make it faster.

Of course, I'd wait until the phone is actually released and we actually know what the specs are before complaining about it. It also sounds like multiple phones may be announced.

 

[garyart1]

What are the "low" specs being rumored? Everything I've heard/seen has pointed to a 1080p display (around 423 PPI) and quadcore Snapdragon 801 MSM8x74 AC (probably MSM8974 AC), with 2GB RAM, much larger battery, etc. That's budget?

You are right. I should not have called it low end. Mid range specs would be more correct but not the type specs that would go with a flagship device. Depending on which rumor is current, the x+1 may get the 800 or 801 processor not the high end 805. Also the newer devices are coming with 3 gb of ram and higher resolution display. Do you need all this power now, probably not but as someone who keeps his phones for years, I may in the future. I know that specs is only 1/2 the story and motorola has proven in the x they can really optimize the software. I am not knocking the x+1. If it looks good at announcement, I still may go for it. All I am saying is there are some great motorola devices rumored for the near future. Many of which is said to have flagship specs and a lot of the software enhancements that made the x a great phone. This may be the best of both worlds.

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[NoYankees44]

You are right. I should not have called it low end. Mid range specs would be more correct but not the type specs that would go with a flagship device. Depending on which rumor is current, the x+1 may get the 800 or 801 processor not the high end 805. Also the newer devices are coming with 3 gb of ram and higher resolution display. Do you need all this power now, probably not but as someone who keeps his phones for years, I may in the future. I know that specs is only 1/2 the story and motorola has proven in the x they can really optimize the software. I am not knocking the x+1. If it looks good at announcement, I still may go for it. All I am saying is there are some great motorola devices rumored for the near future. Many of which is said to have flagship specs and a lot of the software enhancements that made the x a great phone. This may be the best of both worlds.

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You are at the end of 32bit. 64bit devices will come out at the end of this year or beginning of next. The very minor performance increase between the 800, 801, and 805 will never be enough to care about. If any one of the 3 has trouble running an app, they all 3 will.

At 1440p, the phone would have a MUCH higher chance to be performance starved. So any 1440p phone now is also MUCH less future proof than any 1080 phone. It will be much more likely to to bog down with future, more intensive apps.

The ram is the only real complaint worth talking about. More ram is always good. Whether or not it is "needed" is of course debatable. Amount of storage is the same.

 

[Citizen Coyote]

You are at the end of 32bit. 64bit devices will come out at the end of this year or beginning of next. The very minor performance increase between the 800, 801, and 805 will never be enough to care about. If any one of the 3 has trouble running an app, they all 3 will.

At 1440p, the phone would have a MUCH higher chance to be performance starved. So any 1440p phone now is also MUCH less future proof than any 1080 phone. It will be much more likely to to bog down with future, more intensive apps.

The ram is the only real complaint worth talking about. More ram is always good. Whether or not it is "needed" is of course debatable. Amount of storage is the same.

Not to mention that a higher res screen (like 1440p) will require that much more battery to operate. Honestly I'm tired of companies stuffing every high end piece of hardware into their phones with little regard to battery life. "Oh it will last 12 hours, good enough." No, not good enough. I want to be able to use my phone all day without fear of needing to reach for a charger. If I use it lightly, I want it to go 2-3 days. I'm not saying the Moto X+1 will have that kind of battery life, but the higher the specs the less likely it will even come close.

Make it perform well, give it stamina and an affordable price, and I'm sold. I don't need bleeding edge, thanks.

Oh, and on a different note: to me, "mid-range" means a Snapdragon 400-600 processor, not an 800. Basically what you see in phones like the Moto G and E. "Low-end" phones use dual core MediaTek processors, at least in my view.

 

[Clocks]

Ugh just read a rumor it has a 3d screen. If it does, I will not buy it

 

[delrey1900]

Ugh just read a rumor it has a 3d screen. If it does, I will not buy it

I'm with you on that one. I'll keep my x if so. However, it's a rumor and I'll treat it as one.

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[livetoride4666]

Yes very unlikely

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[rlb]

Don't know why anyone would say the specs are low or mid end. Both the high end S5 and M8 have only 1080 displays and 2 GB ram and the difference between the 800 and 801 chip is pretty minimal as someone else said. Seems pretty high end flagship to me.

 

[happasaiyan]

Ugh just read a rumor it has a 3d screen. If it does, I will not buy it

Don't worry.

 

[jerethi]

Ugh just read a rumor it has a 3d screen. If it does, I will not buy it

Agreed!

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[elian]

The only other difference is the 801 supports eMMC 5.0, but that shouldn't really matter if the X+1 doesn't have an SD card slot.

Isn't eMMC 5.0 also relevant for internal storage? So not only for SD card slots?

 

[Nema Imena]

Don't worry.

do we have to "worry" about optical zoom?

this is feature which nobody didn't mentioned earlier, and by looking at back of leaked x+1 there is no way that they could put retractable lenses there...

 

[Clocks]

Don't worry.

Thaaank youuuuu