moto x cyber wed sold 10k+

[cwbcpa]

Answer: none.

That's constructive.

Bringing it back to the topic of the thread. The Moto X isn't selling well. They sold 10k on a fire sale. Android is good but its fans have a blinding hatred for anything Apple. Cool.

I really don't want to get into the Apple vs Android argument so I won't. Both sides tend to be blind when it comes to the merits of the other side. I use both so I do appreciate both sides. I did want to clarify on the number of Moto X's sold on Wednesday though. It was not 10K sold. He said 10's of thousands. Again, we all know apple sells a ton of phones and I certainly wish the Moto X was selling more, but let's not make it worse than it is. The Moto X is an excellent phone that unfortunately may not sell as well as the heavily advertised Samsung phones nor will it take down Apple. The good news is that I do think it will sell enough for Motorola to continue with what they have started here. Which, in my opinion, is pretty awesome.

 

[Woosh]

Answer: none.

That's constructive.

Bringing it back to the topic of the thread. The Moto X isn't selling well. They sold 10k on a fire sale. Android is good but its fans have a blinding hatred for anything Apple. Cool.

It's very constructive. You have no idea what Moto actually sold since they haven't posted those numbers. Also he said 10s of thousands iirc and not 10,000. Plus this wasn't a fire sale since they will continue to sell at the normal price, it was just a sale and very unlikely that they made no profit from these sales. They aren't selling under cost like the $99 HP tab went for.

 

[ultravisitor]

The good news is that I do think it will sell enough for Motorola to continue with what they have started here. Which, in my opinion, is pretty awesome.

That's really all that matters to me. Nobody should be expecting Motorola to do Apple- or Samsung-like numbers. Motorola is kind of starting over again and they're rebuilding the brand, so it's way too early for the level of success that Apple and Samsung can easily achieve. Motorola is nowhere near the level of awareness with consumers yet for them to completely be able to turn the tables against Apple and Samsung based on numbers sold.

 

[androidatic]

Do I need to take a photo of my phone before I post here? I've got a Moto X. I don't have an iPhone anymore. Again, stop with the personal attacks. It's not fostering a conversation.

XDA thread on bloat on the Moto x. You're telling me it's not a problem? Looking at my list of disabled apps and it's quite long. Verizon, Motorola, Google.

Very misleading.

If you want to disable everything that the ***** on XDA did, you basically have a dumb phone (I know, not quite.). He's removing many of the features that people buy Android phones to use. Not all of the features on Android are used by everyone and what some consider bloat others consider an integral part of what they want and maybe need. Just because one person doesn't want a feature doesn't mean it's bloat and bloat isn't necessarily something that isn't required for Android to run.

But back to Moto X sales. Moto has about 4 years of mis-steps to try to correct. The X and G are great starts but it's going to take time.

I'm not saying that you are, but your posts are coming off like you are bragging, and even happy, that the X isn't selling well. Perhaps this isn't your intent but it sure as hell seems that way. This is why you're getting all kinds of hate.

 

[torifile]

Let me get this out of the way: I really like my Moto x. I wish that they would go even further and kill all the carrier crap and stuff that feels like they're trying to upsell me. It seems desperate.

I am very impressed that they quit the specs race and focused on improving and developing new ideas. They didn't chase screen size, megapixels, or gimmicky features. They made some choices for users like going with an AMOLED display to enable something like active notifications. They chose a smaller screen to make ergonomics and battery life better.

Good for them. I have no animosity towards Android at all. I like it most of the time. (though I hate Samsung with the heat of a thousand suns ) There's just crap that needs work. Believe me, I criticize Apple too.

 

[ultravisitor]

I really like my Moto x. I wish that they would go even further and kill all the carrier crap and stuff that feels like they're trying to upsell me. It seems desperate.

So buy an unlocked GSM edition. If you're on Verizon, you know you'll have to deal with the "carrier crap." Motorola is not in the same position as Apple that they can have Verizon sell their phones on their terms.

 

[torifile]

So buy an unlocked GSM edition. If you're on Verizon, you know you'll have to deal with the "carrier crap." Motorola is not in the same position as Apple that they can have Verizon sell their phones on their terms.

You're making my point for me. If I bought an iPhone, it wouldn't matter what carrier I was on. Now that Google owns Motorola, maybe we'll see some movement on this front from Android.

 

[ultravisitor]

You're making my point for me. If I bought an iPhone, it wouldn't matter what carrier I was on.

If that's your point, then I'm not sure why you were complaining in the first place. Were you not aware that Android OEMs do not have the same power with the carriers that Apple does?

You came in claiming that the Moto X isn't doing well, but without any actual proof. You only compared it to Apple -- without any specific, confirmed numbers -- and everybody knows that no one except Samsung can compare to Apple. To say that the Moto X isn't selling like the iPhones or Galaxy phones, well...wow. Newsflash.

Seriously. Nobody could reasonably expect the Moto X to turn the tide in their favor in such a short period. It seems, though, that you were expecting such a thing to happen.

Only Motorola and Google can really qualify how well the Moto X is doing because they're the only ones who know what the expectations are for the phone. I don't know exactly what they were expecting, but I'm pretty sure they weren't expecting it to sell like iPhones and Galaxy phones for reasons I stated earlier in the thread.

 

[torifile]

If that's your point, then I'm not sure why you were complaining in the first place. Were you not aware that Android OEMs do not have the same power with the carriers that Apple does?

You came in claiming that the Moto X isn't doing well, but without any actual proof. You only compared it to Apple -- without any specific, confirmed numbers -- and everybody knows that no one except Samsung can compare to Apple. To say that the Moto X isn't selling like the iPhones or Galaxy phones, well...wow. Newsflash.

Seriously. Nobody could reasonably expect the Moto X to turn the tide in their favor in such a short period. It seems, though, that you were expecting such a thing to happen.

Only Motorola and Google can really qualify how well the Moto X is doing because they're the only ones who know what the expectations are for the phone. I don't know exactly what they were expecting, but I'm pretty sure they weren't expecting it to sell like iPhones and Galaxy phones for reasons I stated earlier in the thread.

I posted a link, one among many, that talks about the poor sales of the Moto X. Google continues to lose money hand over fist with Motorola.

It's not doing well.

Some links:
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/11/12/5097532/moto-x-only-500000-devices-reportedly-sold

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/BL-DGB-30726

http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/10/17/4849472/google-earnings-q3-2013

 

[ultravisitor]

I posted a link, one among many, that talks about the poor sales of the Moto X. Google continues to lose money hand over fist with Motorola.

It's not doing well.

Which one of those cites exactly what Motorola and Google's expectations are for the Moto X?

Because, as I said earlier, only Motorola and Google can really qualify how well the Moto X is doing because they're the only ones who know what the expectations are for the phone.

 

[androidatic]

If that's your point, then I'm not sure why you were complaining in the first place. Were you not aware that Android OEMs do not have the same power with the carriers that Apple does?

You came in claiming that the Moto X isn't doing well, but without any actual proof. You only compared it to Apple -- without any specific, confirmed numbers -- and everybody knows that no one except Samsung can compare to Apple. To say that the Moto X isn't selling like the iPhones or Galaxy phones, well...wow. Newsflash.

Seriously. Nobody could reasonably expect the Moto X to turn the tide in their favor in such a short period. It seems, though, that you were expecting such a thing to happen.

Only Motorola and Google can really qualify how well the Moto X is doing because they're the only ones who know what the expectations are for the phone. I don't know exactly what they were expecting, but I'm pretty sure they weren't expecting it to sell like iPhones and Galaxy phones for reasons I stated earlier in the thread.

Great post! Very well put.

I have ALWAYS loved Moto phones. I had the original Razr (not the Droid Razr) and then picked up the Droid Razr. It was from there I made the mistake of getting an iPhone. I then traded that for the GS3, which I will be selling as soon as Moto ships my X. I can't wait to get back to Motorola. Between the Motorola, iPhone and Samsung, my Moto had the strongest signal by far and the build quality was also better than the others. Now that Moto seems to have turned things around with their software and camera, I'm back on board.

I'm glad to see that they're turning things around.

 

[jephanie]

It's very constructive. You have no idea what Moto actually sold since they haven't posted those numbers. Also he said 10s of thousands iirc and not 10,000. Plus this wasn't a fire sale since they will continue to sell at the normal price, it was just a sale and very unlikely that they made no profit from these sales. They aren't selling under cost like the $99 HP tab went for.

Not only did he clearly say 10s of thousands, people need to keep in mind the price they sold the X's at on the sale ($150 off full retail) is roughly the same cost they sell them to the carriers. Moto really wasn't losing any revenue but was actually boosting it via increased sales. While Moto isn't exactly a startup, this is actually a smart way to get their devices in more peoples' hands to help get them back into the game. As long as they continue to produce solid devices that get such positive press from the tech sites and continue to refine their advertising, their market share will continue to grow. And based on the strategy of the X and the G, they are accounting for mistakes that have basically sunk HTC.

I'm already much more eager to see what Moto produces in 2014 more than any other manufacturer (Android, Apple or Windows).

 

[tdizzel]

Bringing it back to the topic of the thread. The Moto X isn't selling well. They sold 10k on a fire sale.

Wrong, wrong and wrong.
First, it wasn't a fire sale. Saying that its a fire sale makes you sound clueless. It was just a regular, plain ol' sale. Almost every single company on the planet has them regularly.
Secondly, Motorola reported that they sold 10s of thousands.Saying they sold 10k makes you sound clueless. You don't seem to understand what Moto is saying, even though they're saying it in plain English.
Thirdly, Moto had a certain amount of phones that they wanted to sell(10s of thousands...even though you don't seem to know what that means). It took them approximately 10 minutes to sell that many. When a company sets a goal of a certain number of units to sell, and they reach that goal in 10 minutes, that means the product is selling well.Saying it isn't selling well makes you look clueless. They reached their goals, but you don't seem to understand the concept of a company setting, and reaching goals and how that determines what is selling well.
If you want to know why people are attacking you, just look at your one post here. You posted one line and looked completely clueless 3 times over.

 

[torifile]

Wrong, wrong and wrong.
First, it wasn't a fire sale. Saying that its a fire sale makes you sound clueless. It was just a regular, plain ol' sale. Almost every single company on the planet has them regularly.
Secondly, Motorola reported that they sold 10s of thousands.Saying they sold 10k makes you sound clueless. You don't seem to understand what Moto is saying, even though they're saying it in plain English.
Thirdly, Moto had a certain amount of phones that they wanted to sell(10s of thousands...even though you don't seem to know what that means). It took them approximately 10 minutes to sell that many. When a company sets a goal of a certain number of units to sell, and they reach that goal in 10 minutes, that means the product is selling well.Saying it isn't selling well makes you look clueless. They reached their goals, but you don't seem to understand the concept of a company setting, and reaching goals and how that determines what is selling well.
If you want to know why people are attacking you, just look at your one post here. You posted one line and looked completely clueless 3 times over.

I'm not the one saying it isn't selling well. The Wall Street Journal is. Maybe firesale was a bit much, I'll grant you that. Let's forget a loss leader sale for a moment and look at the bigger picture.

 

[androidatic]

Wrong, wrong and wrong.
First, it wasn't a fire sale. Saying that its a fire sale makes you sound clueless. It was just a regular, plain ol' sale. Almost every single company on the planet has them regularly.
Secondly, Motorola reported that they sold 10s of thousands.Saying they sold 10k makes you sound clueless. You don't seem to understand what Moto is saying, even though they're saying it in plain English.
Thirdly, Moto had a certain amount of phones that they wanted to sell(10s of thousands...even though you don't seem to know what that means). It took them approximately 10 minutes to sell that many. When a company sets a goal of a certain number of units to sell, and they reach that goal in 10 minutes, that means the product is selling well.Saying it isn't selling well makes you look clueless. They reached their goals, but you don't seem to understand the concept of a company setting, and reaching goals and how that determines what is selling well.
If you want to know why people are attacking you, just look at your one post here. You posted one line and looked completely clueless 3 times over.

Exactly! It obviously sold the allotment that they had established for the sale. If it hadn't there would still be codes left over from last Monday.

And how does anyone except Motorola know how WELL the X is selling? Just because it's not putting out Galaxy numbers doesn't mean it's not selling well. We have no idea what Motorola's target is/was.

A sale isn't always an indication of low sales. This is a great was to increase interest and generate some news thus pushing sales even further.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

 

[anon(847090)]

I'm not the one saying it isn't selling well. The Wall Street Journal is. Maybe firesale was a bit much, I'll grant you that. Let's forget a loss leader sale for a moment and look at the bigger picture.

where are u seeing that its not selling well... if u are looking at 500k in Q3 then thats only 1 month sales not including when the price was dropped in october

it is not selling in millions but it is selling better than expected considering its only sold in latin america..

With 500K units shipped in Q3, Moto X is a success for Google and Motorola | Unwired View

 

[torifile]

Hmm. A website called "unwired view" or the WSJ. which should I trust? Tough question...

Listen guys, I'm on your side here. I want the Moto X to be a successful product. I hope it will be.

 

[ultravisitor]

A website called "unwired view" or the WSJ. which should I trust? Tough question...

Well, the Wall Street Journal compared the Moto X numbers to those of the Galaxy S 4.

How many times does it need to be pointed out that Motorola is nowhere near the level of Samsung and, thus, no one should be expecting those kinds of numbers from them?

 

[torifile]

Well, the Wall Street Journal compared the Moto X numbers to those of the Galaxy S 4.

How many times does it need to be pointed out that Motorola is nowhere near the level of Samsung and, thus, no one should be expecting those kinds of numbers from them?

Alright. I guess if you consider the lumia a success, then we're all good.

 

[grooks]

Alright. I guess if you consider the lumia a success, then we're all good.

That all depends on what Nokia and Microsoft expectations were for devices sold.

Sent from my Moto X