New HTC Inspire 4G has 3G sim card!
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I know what it is. I was asking if anyone else does. People complain they're not getting 4G speeds, but how do they know what speeds to expect? My speedtest.net scores are slightly better than an iPhone 3GS, but that's probably mostly the processor.
Also, depending on if you're indoors or outdoors, your distance from the tower, etc., the speeds vary greatly. Don't get me wrong, I do agree AT&T is limiting the speeds to protect their network.
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I've heard that the Inspire doesn't run on the LTE network, different technology. I've also heard that LTE would be up by the end of this year. Maybe I'm hearing things.
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Okay, I got a new sim today. Standing at the counter I ran the Speedtest app before taking out the 3G sim. Then I ran it again with the new "4G" sim. Got virtually the same results.
Another interesting thing, when I went into the store I asked the guy if they got the 4G sims in yet. He said "No. Wait, for what phone?" I said for the Inspire and he said "oh yeah, we have those."
Another interesting thing, when I went into the store I asked the guy if they got the 4G sims in yet. He said "No. Wait, for what phone?" I said for the Inspire and he said "oh yeah, we have those."
Never take as fact what you hear from at&t reps in-store. Example- i was told the nexus s would work with at&t 3g...even while they looked at the nexus spec list that clearly shows it won't support their 3g frequencies.
The lack of accurate technical info by their in-store reps is one of biggest issues with at&t.
The new "4G" SIMs are for future upgrades so right now I doubt you will see any differences in speed from a 3G to a 4G SIM. But just like moving from 2G to 3G you will eventually see issues even though your 3G SIM will work in your 4G phone.
We still have folks using 3G Blackberry's with 2G (Cingular 64K SIM cards). They work but don't have simultaneous voice and data and slower data speeds.
We still have folks using 3G Blackberry's with 2G (Cingular 64K SIM cards). They work but don't have simultaneous voice and data and slower data speeds.
I have an inspire as well and have a q?
I got my inspire last night and asked to keep the micro sim from my iPhone 4 because I want to switch back and forth from it and the inspire. I'm having trouble positioning the micro sim inside the inspire. I have positioned the micro sim in a iPhone 2g tray before but that was easier. So my question is how did you position it to be recognized in the inspire with micro sim?
I got my inspire last night and asked to keep the micro sim from my iPhone 4 because I want to switch back and forth from it and the inspire. I'm having trouble positioning the micro sim inside the inspire. I have positioned the micro sim in a iPhone 2g tray before but that was easier. So my question is how did you position it to be recognized in the inspire with micro sim?
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I had my sim changed yesterday because at&t claimed it would increase the signal strength. There is no difference in signal strength or up/download speeds. They did mention that as the cell towers and sofrware are upgradded, the new sim card will be needed to run at the higher speeds.
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That's interesting. The guy I got mine from said they weren't sure if it would make any difference. Way to train you employees to be on the same page AT&T!
They are trained, but most either skip through the training and just take the tests until they pass it, or put off the training until the last day. At&t provides trainings in advance of all devices and changes.
How would this work with an unlimited plan with other 3G phones on it? We wanted to add an Inspire to the account but they said we need an additional data plan for it, so we got the cheapest for $25. Could they just have switched all the phones over to the "Smartphone personal Unlimited" plan for free, and they're just taking us for a ride? Or does that plan only work with 4G phones?
Thanks.
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I just did a search for "Smartphone personal Unlimited" and it seems like you'd only need to switch to that coming from a BlackBerry, otherwise you already have it. So if we already have the Smartphone personal unlimited plan, why couldn't they just add the Inspire as an additional line? Does it really need a separate data plan?
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Every phone listed on a family plan will have a separate data plan. My wife and I have been using iPhones for quite some time now, but decided to try other phone the other day. I went with the Inspire 4G and kept everything on the rate/data plan the same on our family plan, but the data plan changed to the Smartphone personal Unlimited instead of the Unlimited iPhone data plan. Both phones on our family plan have separate data plans.
Bought 4 Inspires at once. 3 Would display "H+" and 1 constantly reported "E".
Took them in and demonstrated and the one that displayed "E" got its sim card replaced.
Poof > "H+"
Northeast Oklahoma, when 4G is said to not be available "consistantly" yet.
And the Modile network type reported on the phone is "HSDPA"
Took them in and demonstrated and the one that displayed "E" got its sim card replaced.
Poof > "H+"
Northeast Oklahoma, when 4G is said to not be available "consistantly" yet.
And the Modile network type reported on the phone is "HSDPA"
Why would it make a difference? The major air interface difference between HSDPA and HSPA+ are the higher code rates and larger number of wcdma spreading codes from the phone's point of view which are reported back to the tower by the handset as it's device category, so the tower knows not to attempt to transmit across more codes than the handset can despread or in a modulation scheme that the handset can't demodulate.
It doesn't make sense to store that information on a SIM card (and in other android phones it seems like it's a build property in the software and unrelated to the SIM) - such a sim card placed in a non HSPA+ phone (say you dropped your phone and broke it and swapped your SIM to a non HSPA+ backup phone) would result in the tower attempting to transmit data across more codes than the phone could receive and would result in what looks like garbled data from the tower. Storing the data internally at AT&T doesn't seem like the right choice either, when the phone roams to other HSPA+ networks those networks would still need to know what device category the handset is so their towers can configure the transmissions properly so that the handsets can "understand" them.
This is something AT&T needs to provide directly to the end user, the information on how towers will determine how to transmit data to the handset and how the towers know what the device category is.
I imagine the different SIM card is purely a marketing thing (don't put a sim that says 3G on it in a phone they're trying to sell as 4G), but if the SIM really does have something to do with it, that'd be really interesting to know.
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