Nickel and Dime Ya Wireless

It never ends with this money pit company.

“Welcome to Nickel and Dime Ya Wireless. How can we rob you today?”

And when the call ends ... “Thank you for being the best part of Nickel and Dime Ya Wireless. We hope to rob you again soon.”

Verizon might have the best network coverage, but I think when my contract ends in two years, I may have to start looking for a new carrier.
 
You can usually get the fee removed by calling customer service and asking for retention. The bigger problem is the big three all charge the fee with Sprint @ $35 and AT&T just doubling their fee to $36 so we have to deal with it no matter where we go. :mad:
 
Ill be leaving Verizon when my contract is up due to their corporate greed. Their BS about levels of service is crap too! My company waives my activation fee, so I may get the ONE X, at ATT. I've been with them for over 7 years too. Remember the "new every two", gone!

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Ne2, annual upgrade, 1 year contracts, and unlimited data all ended last year.
 
I like the customer service at Verizon, but I do beleieve they are an expensive carrier. The bloatware on their phones is overwhelming. The problem is, where do you go? AT&T is just as expensive. And Sprint and T-Mobile have spotty coverage. They are all getting more expensive and carried away with the bloatware.
 
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I always feel torn when I consider the almost exorbitant costs we pay here in the US, especially compared to Europe. Yes, I am jealous of the cheap contracts and little to no costs for new phones most European countries appear to enjoy but when you consider how small the area the carrier has to cover under your contract compared to the US it puts it in a bit more perspective. The US is larger than the whole of Europe yet I can call someone for the same rate between New York and LA the same as if I would call within a state (and even those are mostly larger than a single European country). Good luck trying to not get charged outrageous rates on your cell phone when you call cross country in Europe or heck, leave the country you came from and use your phone there. There really isn't any comparison between the scale of infrastructure our domestic carriers have available between here and there. Now, having said all that, the increase in rates over the years has been criminal in my opinion and the ever increasing costs of upgrades along with the presence of ETFs in something you would not expect in a "free" country such as this.

VZW customer service has treated me fairly and being grandfathered into unlimited data is nice but I often wish Big Red would have much more serious competition. The ever increasing costs of wireless service are almost as devious to me as exploding college tuition costs (though that is an entirely different discussion all-together).
 
I always feel torn when I consider the almost exorbitant costs we pay here in the US, especially compared to Europe. Yes, I am jealous of the cheap contracts and little to no costs for new phones most European countries appear to enjoy but when you consider how small the area the carrier has to cover under your contract compared to the US it puts it in a bit more perspective. The US is larger than the whole of Europe yet I can call someone for the same rate between New York and LA the same as if I would call within a state (and even those are mostly larger than a single European country). Good luck trying to not get charged outrageous rates on your cell phone when you call cross country in Europe or heck, leave the country you came from and use your phone there. There really isn't any comparison between the scale of infrastructure our domestic carriers have available between here and there. Now, having said all that, the increase in rates over the years has been criminal in my opinion and the ever increasing costs of upgrades along with the presence of ETFs in something you would not expect in a "free" country such as this.

VZW customer service has treated me fairly and being grandfathered into unlimited data is nice but I often wish Big Red would have much more serious competition. The ever increasing costs of wireless service are almost as devious to me as exploding college tuition costs (though that is an entirely different discussion all-together).

Not to get picky but Texas being out second largest state is slightly smaller than France. The former Soviet Union would envelope the US almost twice over. If you mean a larger market yes, but size wise not so much.
 
Not to get picky but Texas being out second largest state is slightly smaller than France. The former Soviet Union would envelope the US almost twice over. If you mean a larger market yes, but size wise not so much.

Point well taken!
 
Get Sprint you'll be overwhelmed by the top shelf customer service ....fastest 4g speeds ....best reception...... Largest 4g market ...best coverage ......least dead spots ....and very educated / trained corporate store employees!!! Now if this wasn't enough they are the CHEAPEST!! Oh btw I have the tendency to be a bit sarcastic
 
Get Sprint you'll be overwhelmed by the top shelf customer service ....fastest 4g speeds ....best reception...... Largest 4g market ...best coverage ......least dead spots ....and very educated / trained corporate store employees!!! Now if this wasn't enough they are the CHEAPEST!! Oh btw I have the tendency to be a bit sarcastic

LOL, I was gonna say WHhAaT... I just worked for Sprint for six months before quiting, the way they treat their employees... I'm a human being not cattle. After playing with Android for three years and attending ITT-Tech for CNS (computer networking systems) I just knew too much for Sprint, my main job? S&R (service and repair) one quarter of this is where I explained spotty coverage, lack luster radios/tower output, and spectrum frequency penetration power and distances, too often to truckers who were assured they would have a reliable service with this new smart phone. Verizon just owns a better spectrum, longer distances and better penetration, oh, and possibly employs better network admins/techs, you get what you pay for. But don't take my word for it, check it out for yourself. Rant over, thanks folks!
 
And the award for least reliable cell provider goes to ......( very intense drum roll ) .....SPRINT!! ( Dan Hesse throwing a tantrum winging his network saving EVO LTE At people ) ....Sprint take a bow baby!
 
I like the customer service at Verizon, but I do beleieve they are an expensive carrier. The bloatware on their phones is overwhelming. The problem is, where do you go? AT&T is just as expensive. And Sprint and T-Mobile have spotty coverage. They are all getting more expensive and carried away with the bloatware.

verizon is by far the cheapest for me based on my usage and of course assuming the same or similar service.
 
Not to get picky but Texas being out second largest state is slightly smaller than France. The former Soviet Union would envelope the US almost twice over. If you mean a larger market yes, but size wise not so much.

since dplane was talking about europe, are you sure that the european part of the former ussr really almost double the size of the US?
 
This is the way it's going and the cost of both technology and greed. You can save money by going with smaller carriers but suffer through older phones and a restricted network.
 
I've been irritated with Verizon (love the Nickle and Dime ya moniker! I will have to remember to use it.) for years.

They charge what... $4.95 a month for Visual Voice Mail?

$30 a month for "Unlimited Text Messaging"? What? Everyone knows the cost to send a text message is a fraction of a penny.

I could go on and on, but won't. A point I want to make - We as consumers must be diligent in making sure that the future contains lots and lots of bandwidth that's ubiquitous, cheap and accessible without long-term lock-in. We want a future where we can pump Voice, text, video, data all over the fat-bandwidth. Paying for "minutes" should be a joke. Paying extra for text-messaging and "Value Add" service (ha! What a joke) from Verizon such as Visual Voice Mail and VZNavigator will also be obsolete. We want more competition in the market place. We want more openness. The key to all this is making sure lots of fat, wireless bandwidth is available.

Of course... You have to remember, Verizon has NO motivation for this future to unfold. They want a future with Lock-in forcing you to stick with them for two years at a time; metered bandwidth so they can charge you overages; tiered services so they can censor some services and charge you extra to access them; bandwidth-throttling so they can dictate terms and sell you "upgrades". Wanna cancel? That's extra fees. Wanna watch video? Extra fees. Wanna check email? Sorry you have already gotten 5 emails today, would you like to purchase another block of five? Do you have another device that wants service? Oh that's another $39.99 a month with a two-year iron clad service agreement.
 
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I've been irritated with Verizon (love the Nickle and Dime ya moniker! I will have to remember to use it.) for years.

They charge what... $4.95 a month for Visual Voice Mail?

$30 a month for "Unlimited Text Messaging"? What? Everyone knows the cost to send a text message is a fraction of a penny.

I could go on and on, but won't. A point I want to make - We as consumers must be diligent in making sure that the future contains lots and lots of bandwidth that's ubiquitous, cheap and accessible without long-term lock-in. We want a future where we can pump Voice, text, video, data all over the fat-bandwidth. Paying for "minutes" should be a joke. Paying extra for text-messaging and "Value Add" service (ha! What a joke) from Verizon such as Visual Voice Mail and VZNavigator will also be obsolete. We want more competition in the market place. We want more openness. The key to all this is making sure lots of fat, wireless bandwidth is available.

Of course... You have to remember, Verizon has NO motivation for this future to unfold. They want a future with Lock-in forcing you to stick with them for two years at a time; metered bandwidth so they can charge you overages; tiered services so they can censor some services and charge you extra to access them; bandwidth-throttling so they can dictate terms and sell you "upgrades". Wanna cancel? That's extra fees. Wanna watch video? Extra fees. Wanna check email? Sorry you have already gotten 5 emails today, would you like to purchase another block of five? Do you have another device that wants service? Oh that's another $39.99 a month with a two-year iron clad service agreement.

My 2¢

I've had service with VZW since they bought alltel, I was an alltel customer. At the merger my family had two BB's and two flip phones, of which the contracts were grandfathered in. Upon our first upgrades they allowed us to keep that contract. Of course that hasn't continued, and a few years later here we are. YES, our bill has gone up but SO has everything else. We have never incurred these ^^^ extra costs mentioned, of course if you WANT these extra unnecessary services just like Sprint, AT&T, and every other cellular company, You will have to pay. BTW, Google really does offer all of these services, and basically for Free! And if they don't? There's an app for that, you know if your worried about getting those NFL scores. Now all of this said, I am assuming you have an unlimited data plan. If you don't, you will incur overage charges from any of the big three and their competitors.
Before I move ahead here... I don't really care what carrier a person is with, if you have done your homework and understand what "IS" unique about each carrier then an informed choice has been made.
As I mentioned in my earlier post above, recently I worked for Sprint and at that time I carried a unlimited data plan from them as well as VZW... I've done the math and had I switched my family over to Sprint we would have saved 20-40$, on four lines, three of which are smart phones with unlimited whatever. Now here is where it gets good. I'm in WI so maybe somewhere else in the US its different. While with Sprint I had dropped calls, not once or twice but often, and in a metro area. And so did a lot of other customers, and they were un pleased. lol, a lot of customers also had time stamp issues, clearly networking, with no fix. And yet another issue, while traveling around rural WI I might leave the beaten path, with Sprint when I was a half mile off the main HWYs I'd lose service, obviously since I am mentioning it, this didn't happen with my VZW devices. IDK about you but if I am snowmobiling, mountain biking, or hiking this may be important. Again, I have NEVER had these issues with VZW... And for the extra $20-40 on four lines, I'm good with that! I have lost service with VZW, but, I was in the middle of a corn field or forest and that's to be expected. Unless, like a lot of people I had to calm down at Sprint, that is not understood, lol!
So, here we are at bandwidth. I am very sorry to say, bandwidth is only important "If you have service!" This is one of those informed considerations needed before choosing a carrier. Spectrum, frequency, & bandwidth are important. These spectrums were mostly auctioned off over 100 years ago, around ham radio times. Occasionally the government auctions off another spectrum though. FYI, this is exactly why AT&T wanted T-Mobile, for their spectrum. You can't just buy these things and there aren't more and more. Frequency is how spectrums are divided. It's like changing the channel on your car radio, and like AM & FM, different frequencies have different properties. Like distance and penetration. This is a good part, VZWs goes further and has better penetration but less bandwidth. And if you are really looking for bandwidth? Sprints slower, shorter distance, less penetrable frequency carries a much bigger load "bandwidth", hence its, lol, short comings. This is why Sprint is #3 and you pay a bit more at VZW, its called network capabilities.
So with 4g lte there will be some changes, we'll have to wait and see... VZW seems to have had a few issues with roll out, a few nation wide outages. If Sprint can change some of their ways they might change the game a bit. After working there though... I have little confidence in their network techs. I personally believe these guys are a big make it or break it, I mean they either know how to keep a network going strong or the towers crash.
One last talking point. I agree with everyone. A lot of the rest of the world has a much better system of purchase for devices and services rendered. And we need to migrate in that direction. So Google just started selling unlocked GSM aka AT&T or T-Mobile Galaxy Nexus's on the Play Store. Here is everybody's chance to put their money where their mouth is, show the carriers we want the change. But remember no more subsidized devices, full price! Whatever that is; $400 $500 $600 whatever.
Anyhow maybe a bit more than 2¢ but people need to know what they are getting dollar for dollar, carrier for carrier, service for service.
Peace, out!
 
I can't really complain. I have a family plan with 5 phones (4 android and one regular) that share 1400 min , unlimited texting and unlimited data. I only pay about $200 a month. You can't beat that. The $30 fee will just mean I won't upgrade as often. I get great service and anytime I have a problem it's usually taken care of right away. Compared to other companies I think I'm doing pretty good with VZW. My .02 ?.
 
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Hey if the upgrade fee actually goes into training the retail employees on product education & the like, as it was stated? I'm all for it, hands down, no problem whatsoever. It would be nice to walk in a store and deal with someone who won't make me wonder how they got their job. However, call me crazy but I think these fees will be collected and placed in a swiss bank vault, in the form of gold coins and boullions. Then at the company x-mas party this year, executives only, of course. All the old wrinkly CEOs will then disrobe and take turns swimming in their newfound fortunes like Scrooge McDuck. Only to towel off with a few meager hundred dollar bills laying around, pat each other on the back for another con, excuse me, job well done. Then fly home and snuggle up with their end of year bonuses.

Sorry, it makes me queazy to see the upgrade fee announced and instated. After reports are made that J. Iha from Moto made $47mil. last year. In large part, bestowed upon him as a big fat thank you from all the U.S of A carriers, especially the Moto Droids. I used to laugh at the Occupy Verizon nutters, maybe they were onto something. Looks like Verizon will earn back what they gave away last year from the rest of us this year.
 

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