Non-removable battery?

[threepio]

External extended batteries like I posted? Thats only if someone decided to make one.

I still think its a bad idea. who's gonna want to attach an external battery to their phone..

 

[jroc]

Hey, its an option. The one for the Galaxy S 2 doesnt look too bad.

 

[jam4775]

I will NOT buy a smartphone with Non-removable battery simply because I will be replacing the battery at least once during my ownership of the phone. I've had many smartphones since the early windows mobile days all of which I usually owned for about 2-1/2 years and every one of them lost about 40% of their charge within the first 1-1/2 years. And because of this I've always replaced my battery after it's just over a year old.

SO, unless Motorola has found some supper battery that can maintain at least 90% of it's charge for over 2 years I will NOT be buying this phone either.

 

[the one and only M]

Who said the battery isn't removable?

http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/t5Hyy2km1AB5d1GG.huge



http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/qMMgN1qQFXs1KNyn.huge

Look how thin!!

This was my only worry, that the battery would be completely inaccessible or permanently sealed in. Knowing I may be able to swap it down the road is a sigh of relief.

 

[furbymac]

That battery is HUGE.

I wonder how you remove the Kevlar (if you wanted to).

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-RAZR-Teardown/7048/1

 

[furbymac]

seeing the way the tear down looks i am willing to bet that somebody will make an extended battery and a replacement backing

 

[TvTechGuru]

Seeing how reasonably easy it looks to pull off the backside and remove the battery, there's hope. But, will it be possible to buy an extra one of those super thin batteries. With that said, it's not going to be practical to do a regular swap out. But... maybe if something goes wrong with the battery, you could swap it out a year into ownership if really needed. Time will only tell if that's necessary.

I'm still holding confidence in Motorola that they engineered it well and we won't have to worry. Like I said, if Apple hasn't had problems, Moto shouldn't.

 

[Joe378]

I'm still holding confidence in Motorola that they engineered it well and we won't have to worry. Like I said, if Apple hasn't had problems, Moto shouldn't.

Apple is not yet 4G. Let's see what happens with the iPhone 5 comes out, if it will even have 4G.

 

[kenoshabrew]

IT IS still an issue from two different perspectives.
One, the combination of button pushes is software related, If the software is screwed up, will it recognize the button inputs and shut down the phone? This phone really needs a recesed restart button that is an actual mechanical link between and actual circuit from the battery to the circuit board.

The other thing that sort of worries me is if you really need to keep the phone off and it won't stay off. Those with the Droid X may have encountered the fact that after GB, if you turned off the phone, it came back on. If you set it into airplane mode, it came back on. Not a great idea when flying. Especially when it rings and the flight attendant is five feet away.

Only way I have found to guarantee my X will not turn on suddenly whiile flying is to PULL the battery.

I agree that it can be an issue. My Droid 2 Global will turn on randomly after it's turned off. This has only been happening after my update to Gingerbread. Odd thing is I had a Droid 2 a few weeks before the Global and it was updated to GB first, but did not have this issue - at least it never happened that I noticed. I have pulled my battery to be safe several times, like in court (they don't look too kindly to cell phones in court...). I often have pulled the battery in the past, going back to the days when my motorola flip phone alarm would turn on the entire phone - it just became a source of habit. So it's a valid concern. I wish this phone DID have a reset button somewhere. I am very interested in the Droid 4 coming out soon but it too will have a non-accessable battery. That's a HUGE turn off and a fear. Especially with all the problems I've had with my Droid 2 AND Droid 2 Global (and the fact my friend has been through 5 Droid 3's in a month and a half). I'm about ready to swear off Motorola forever. If they did fix their reliability issues (which I hope they did, they are the only American company besides Apple for God's sake...) the phone is still no doubt going to freeze. From my understanding when this happens on an iPhone they have to wait until they get home and plug it in to their computer to force it to reboot. I don't know how accurate that is, that's just what I've heard.

-kenoshabrew

 

[kenoshabrew]

Definitely will be fine with the button pushes to reset. But one of your main desires in a phone shouldn't be "be able to pull the battery so I can reboot when the software crashes"

iPhone handles it fine, mine has crashed a lot more than I'd care to admit, and my Galaxy Tab handles it fine. Seriously, don't worry about it so much. The button-reset is in a much lower-level portion of the firmware, which I doubt is affected by any actions of the user, including rooting and flashing a new ROM.

I think it can be an issue. Especially with Motorola and their history of buggy software updates. No one is buying this phone excited about GB, and if Motorola didn't announce ICS in a "short" while it would have lost a LOT of buyers. It's well known that Motorola is putting out buggy junk. Case in point; the previous posters issues with his Droix X with GB. My issues with a Droid 2 and Droid 2 Global (more different than I had orginally thought - they are not the same phone or very similar other than looks - both use different software). The Droid 3 was released with tons of bugs that required a bug fix. The Droid Bionic was released with so many bugs they had to release a push update for IT as well. So maybe with other manufacturers it's not so much of concern, but it is or should be with Motorola's past history.

If you're Motorola phone works fine, great. But seeing first hand what poor software this company is putting out makes it a concern for anyone who's dealth with their bugs. The Droid RAZR offers something you can't get anywhere else - the super slim case. The Droid 4 is going to offer a QWERTY keyboard with a "slimmer" case then the Droid 3 and QWERTY keyboard with LTE, which is rare on a keyboard phone. I would never have bought a Motorola again, or even considered them, but Samsung decieded to put out the Stratosphere QWERTY LTE phone with a single core processor. And I'll be damned if I get stuck with that for the next 2 years. My worry is if I go with Motorola again I'll be stuck with nothing for part of those two years.

 

[androidatic]

No one is buying this phone excited about GB, and if Motorola didn't announce ICS in a "short" while it would have lost a LOT of buyers.

And if ICS wasn't on the near horizon the Razr sales would be triple what they are now. It's all relative.

I understand the complaints about Moto, but many Sammy owners are as upset with their phones as you are with Moto.



Sent from my Droid, the only mobile OS that matters.

 

[YourMobileGuru]

And if ICS wasn't on the near horizon the Razr sales would be triple what they are now. It's all relative.

I understand the complaints about Moto, but many Sammy owners are as upset with their phones as you are with Moto.



Sent from my Droid, the only mobile OS that matters.

Yep I was at the store the other day getting my Rezound and this guy really let into the sales rep about how he felt about having a newer phone than his Bionic

 

[jroc]

I think it can be an issue. Especially with Motorola and their history of buggy software updates. No one is buying this phone excited about GB, and if Motorola didn't announce ICS in a "short" while it would have lost a LOT of buyers. It's well known that Motorola is putting out buggy junk. Case in point; the previous posters issues with his Droix X with GB. My issues with a Droid 2 and Droid 2 Global (more different than I had orginally thought - they are not the same phone or very similar other than looks - both use different software). The Droid 3 was released with tons of bugs that required a bug fix. The Droid Bionic was released with so many bugs they had to release a push update for IT as well. So maybe with other manufacturers it's not so much of concern, but it is or should be with Motorola's past history.

If you're Motorola phone works fine, great. But seeing first hand what poor software this company is putting out makes it a concern for anyone who's dealth with their bugs. The Droid RAZR offers something you can't get anywhere else - the super slim case. The Droid 4 is going to offer a QWERTY keyboard with a "slimmer" case then the Droid 3 and QWERTY keyboard with LTE, which is rare on a keyboard phone. I would never have bought a Motorola again, or even considered them, but Samsung decieded to put out the Stratosphere QWERTY LTE phone with a single core processor. And I'll be damned if I get stuck with that for the next 2 years. My worry is if I go with Motorola again I'll be stuck with nothing for part of those two years.

When you say ALOT.....do you mean alot of general public buyers or alot of forum buyers....cuz I can guarantee you the vast majority of the general public dont know the different versions of the Android OS. Most know different features, not the OS itself. Flash? Most just know that it can be used on an Android phone...not that before Froyo the most you could get was Flash Lite on select phones.

My gf can represent the general public. She loves my Droid X1 and RAZR to death.....she couldnt tell you what a Froyo was if her life depended on it.To her Gingerbread is something you eat...as is Ice Cream Sandwich. Ask her whats the differences between the 3, what she likes about either one the most and she would die of old age before she could give you the answer.

I can put on SPB Shell 3D and she would probably think thats ICS if I told her ICS is a software update for my phone...

And about buggy junk....please dont tell my Samsung puts out perfection, HTC too. They ALL have issues.