Note 20 Ultra Cameras

Medevac1

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Greetings All. I am a Note 9 owner who does a lot of mobile photography and have been thinking of adding the Note 20 Ultra to my line up. I am especially interested in the zoom capabilities and camera performance over all. How pleased have you been with the pics and videos you take with this device? Is it worth the $750-800 I can get for a mint N20U? Thanks for your input.
 
I would say it is definitely worth it. The zoom surprises with its quality as long as you don't expect marvels beyond 20 x zoom. Check out the photo tread in this forum, some great captures there.
 
Question I have is has Samsung corrected their weird issue with animals fur? I have the Note 10+ and hate how pictures of my dogs look ... Their fur almost always looks blurred/smeared, like an oil painting type look to them.

Also, notice a ton of yellow hue on indoor pictures sometimes.

I looked through the Note 20 picture thread and most everything are outdoor landscape pics, which look great if I'm being honest (I also like the Note 10+ outdoor scenery pics too). I just can't find picture samples of moving subjects indoors - ie pets and kids.
 
Question I have is has Samsung corrected their weird issue with animals fur? I have the Note 10+ and hate how pictures of my dogs look ... Their fur almost always looks blurred/smeared, like an oil painting type look to them.

Also, notice a ton of yellow hue on indoor pictures sometimes.

I looked through the Note 20 picture thread and most everything are outdoor landscape pics, which look great if I'm being honest (I also like the Note 10+ outdoor scenery pics too). I just can't find picture samples of moving subjects indoors - ie pets and kids.
The fur looks good on my pets with the regular note 20.
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The fur looks good on my pets with the regular note 20.
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Cute dogs! Thanks for sharing.

That first pic looks really good, the second one seems a bit off ... Maybe due to forum compression?? Nonetheless, these two don't appear to be doing what my Note 10 is.

Here's an example compared to my Pixel 3

Note 10:

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Pixel 3:

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Notice the fur on his neck on the Note 10 ... It's just odd looking, no detail whereas on the Pixel 3 you can see a great amount of detail. Also, the entire Note 10 picture colors are off and have a yellowish look to it.
 
Cute dogs! Thanks for sharing.

That first pic looks really good, the second one seems a bit off ... Maybe due to forum compression?? Nonetheless, these two don't appear to be doing what my Note 10 is.

Here's an example compared to my Pixel 3

Note 10:

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Pixel 3:

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Notice the fur on his neck on the Note 10 ... It's just odd looking, no detail whereas on the Pixel 3 you can see a great amount of detail. Also, the entire Note 10 picture colors are off and have a yellowish look to it.
Could be a bad camera i have a few shots when they were pups and they look great.
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People and pets still seem to be kryptonite to Samsung cameras and very few reviewers seem to mention it.

Here are 2 examples, one from my Note 20 ultra the other pixel 5. Nothing scientific but both are indoors at similar light levels. Point an iPhone 11, 12 or pixel at a person or pet and usually you’ll get a good shot with Samsung it is hit and miss.
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People and pets still seem to be kryptonite to Samsung cameras and very few reviewers seem to mention it.

Here are 2 examples, one from my Note 20 ultra the other pixel 5. Nothing scientific but both are indoors at similar light levels. Point an iPhone 11, 12 or pixel at a person or pet and usually you’ll get a good shot with Samsung it is hit and miss.
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thats what i found out too.especially where light is scarce.not total darkness but yeah.
 
Smoothed fur is from noise reduction and blurred subjects is from too slow of a shutter speed.

I won't buy a Pixel to do my own comparison, surprised we haven't had a single forum member do it yet, but I suspect Google/Apple manage this due to their more advanced AI and image processing. They handle noise reduction and smoothing better than Samsung which would allow an image taken at the same settings to maintain more detail in subjects like animal fur. I believe this advantage is strong enough they can get away with using a higher ISO(normally results in more digital noise) allowing them to increase shutter speed which results in less motion blur from moving subjects.

It's my theory, but I've never seen a comparison between the phones that includes image data like ISO/shutter speed.
 
Smoothed fur is from noise reduction and blurred subjects is from too slow of a shutter speed.

I won't buy a Pixel to do my own comparison, surprised we haven't had a single forum member do it yet, but I suspect Google/Apple manage this due to their more advanced AI and image processing. They handle noise reduction and smoothing better than Samsung which would allow an image taken at the same settings to maintain more detail in subjects like animal fur. I believe this advantage is strong enough they can get away with using a higher ISO(normally results in more digital noise) allowing them to increase shutter speed which results in less motion blur from moving subjects.

It's my theory, but I've never seen a comparison between the phones that includes image data like ISO/shutter speed.

I posted something related to this quite a while ago, I looked at the metadata previously for my S20 vs the Pixel 4 I had then and in every case Samsung chose a slower shutter speed, think I said then that I think they do this to try and keep the ISO down.

I agree that the smudging is likely crude noise reduction, I also wonder though if the thing with pets is just by-product of their choices on beautification for people? What I do think is if reviewers focussed more on people shots in their camera reviews then the scores would be very different.

The frustrating thing is that the hardware is there now so these choices are either Samsung recognising that they lack the computational chops of Google or Apple or maybe they just don’t get photography?
 

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