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Re: Aggravated with iOS /Android back and forth

The primary difference between the two, aside from what phone arena will tell you, is that Nexus phones are not subjected to the tyranny of carrier and manufacture updates. As it stands, everyone but Nexus owners have to guess whether and when their phone will get an update. Some wait and wait and wait and never see an update. Nexus phones, for good or bad, will always have the updates when they're released. In the case of the recent Stagefright exploit this is a big deal. Most phones are still vulnerable because the manufacturer/carrier just doesn't think it's cost effective to fix phones older then 6 months.

As for configuration, it's a tit for tat thing. No one is forced to stay with anything on Android. If you don't like the OS, unlock, root and install CyanogenMod. If you don't like the Launcher, install a new launcher. Samsung does have some cool features, but personally I don't like Samsung's launcher so I run the Google Now Launcher.

You can go with a new launcher, rooting Samsungs though is quickly going away.

Personally I use Nova Launcher now and just started a few months ago. I prefer to change my icons and the sizes.
 
Re: Aggravated with iOS /Android back and forth

Not sure about the tongue lashing you just gave me.

If it came across that way I apologize; certainly not my intention. I simply wanted to offer counter points is all.
 
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There is so much more Dev support on Nexus phones. Always been like that. Changing the kernel alone can change the performance of the phone and battery life. I changed Roms also. Status bar tweaks and so on. There was always something to change. I liked it for a while on my Nexus 5. XDA is awesome
 
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My view is that if there is anything I could want to tweak, adjust, replace or theme, there's a good chance that I'll find something to do that on my Nexus AND it'll be easy as pie to install.

Hell, I can even dual boot several different operating systems.... There was even an Ubuntu distro I could boot on my old Nexus 5.... Great way to test out a new ROM though... create a new instance, flash the ROM to that new instance and boot into it, check it out for a few minutes and then boot back into your main ROM.
 
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Pure Android in the form of a Nexus:
1. Instant updates the moment they are released.
2. Ability to flash developer previews.
3. Unlockable bootloaders; fastboot OEM unlock, done.
4. Hard to brick.
5. Widely supported for Custom Recoveries/ROMs.

I don't really care about 2-5.

Updates I do care about mostly for security reasons, and Samsung has been much better in that regard,as Samsung has pushed a few security updates. No doubt Samsung will still be behind the nexus in this regard, but better than before.


I also like some Samsung customizations and prefer over the nexus like the right back button, restart option in the power menu, close all option in the recent apps button, simplified silent /sound /vibrate options, single swiping the notification bar gives me what I need. Granted I know that some people prefer the nexus style but not me personally.


For those that I don't like the vast majority can be disabled by package disabler as personally I don't want to bother with root.

Obviously for those who like to tinker, through nexus would be the better option. Right now I prefer something that just works.
 
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Well first thing is rooting.

And I will consider removing bloatware customizable, thank you very much. It is something on my phone I can't remove and if I can root, even removing it doesn't give me the space back.

I also have Marshmallow on my Nexus.

Now, this isn't going to turn into a phone wars thing no matter how much some of you try.

I'm a Samsung person all the way, only phones I buy, but I can see past that and realize there are options that pure android offers that OEMS don't. This is not a personal thing about phone owners.

I'll stick with my Samsung for my daily use and my Nexus as one to play with and use sometimes.

I am a self-professed Samsung girl, but that doesn't mean I won't admit the limitations.

I'm heard (never tried) rooting works on Samsung devices...I could be wrong. I personally don't consider rooting in our discussion, I'm referring to the installed OS with all permissions intact. If rooting is all game then through jail broken iPhone into the debate as well...at which its as customizable as Android.

Marshmallow will come to these phones...as I mentioned earlier the only major benefits of Nexus are fastest updates and lack of bloat.

I'm by no means a Samsung fan, sure I own and love my S6 but treat all manufacturers equal and personally find each has their own pros. With that said when it comes to Android and OS with OEM, vanilla Android is a pro for some...but I don't see it offers more customizable options (aside from rooting, if you can't do on Samsung devices).

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I'm heard (never tried) rooting works on Samsung devices...I could be wrong. I personally don't consider rooting in our discussion, I'm referring to the installed OS with all permissions intact. If rooting is all game then through jail broken iPhone into the debate as well...at which its as customizable as Android.

Marshmallow will come to these phones...as I mentioned earlier the only major benefits of Nexus are fastest updates and lack of bloat.

I'm by no means a Samsung fan, sure I own and love my S6 but treat all manufacturers equal and personally find each has their own pros. With that said when it comes to Android and OS with OEM, vanilla Android is a pro for some...but I don't see it offers more customizable options (aside from rooting, if you can't do on Samsung devices).

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No Samsung's are not easy to root. The Verizon and AT&T Note 5 can't be rooted. There are bounties for 10's of thousands to root on Samsung devices.

Yeah there is more to pure Android, other manufacturers remove features and carriers remove other features.

Yes they do offer more customizations and ones that can be attained without rooting.

Again, this isn't a personal statement about anyone that doesn't want one. I think without a lot of customization pure Android is bland and that is my personal view. It is very much vanilla and you add onto it what you want.
 
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And this is fine that you don't care for it but you're taking a discussion where someone is asking "What are the benefits?", they go ahead and list them, and then you say "That doesn't count". If you ask me why I think something has benefits I will give you my opinions. Will you agree with them? Possibly not and that is okay... But you can't ask someone for their opinion then say "But you can't say it is due to this .. Or you can't compare this .. or this".

That doesn't really help get peoples opinions if we lock it down to only what you think is relevant -- since then it wouldn't be our opinion anymore ;).

Meh...and I stand behind iPhone jailbroken being just as customizable as android rooted. You agree? If that's the case and I cant root my Samsung device...then fine I'll give Nexus credit where its due. But then everyone should stop putting down ios for not being customizable...

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Meh...and I stand behind iPhone jailbroken being just as customizable as android rooted. You agree? If that's the case and I cant root my Samsung device...then fine I'll give Nexus credit where its due. But then everyone should stop putting down ios for not being customizable...

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Oh Dear Lord..

So exactly what is your point? It seems to have been lost several posts back.

What does iPhone even have to do with this discussion about vanilla Android and OEM phones? It seems to me that you have taken this issue to a place it never was. A question was asked and answers and now somehow iPhones are involved.

And what Samsung device do you have and what variant?

Did you follow any of the rooting posts about Lollipop and things that Samsung is now doing? The Verizon and AT&T Note 5 can't be rooted. Well it can, but it won't boot up and will tell you it won't boot up because you rooted.
 
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The really odd thing is I'm the last one that is going to bash Samsung, since I'm an exclusively Samsung phone owner until I bought the Nexus 5 the other day.
 
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To get back on topic...I think part of the frustrations of choosing between the two is the fact that the two OS are like polar opposites. Where one shines, the other doesn't. I would agree, I might find it hard to choose if I was invested in both ecosystems.
 
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To get back on topic...I think part of the frustrations of choosing between the two is the fact that the two OS are like polar opposites. Where one shines, the other doesn't. I would agree, I might find it hard to choose if I was invested in both ecosystems.

That is the thing probably. When I've had to use an iPhone, it just was never comfortable to me. I have zero invested in the Apple ecosystem though.
 
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To the OP:

I can definitely relate, and I think a lot of people can. There are fanboys who yes sir their platform no matter what, and here are the comfortable ignorant who happened upon a platform they're comfortable with and just stick with it. And yes, there are people who are not fanboys and who are not ignorant who just truly are sold on a tech and stick with it. But when you factor out the fanboys and factor out the comfortable laity, I can't help but suspect there amay we'll be more people like us than the informed commiters.

This may be a tad oversimplified, but here is my take on the two platforms in a nutshell:

1) I really like iOS, and I really like Android. I find them both at least basically trustworthy (security, yes, but I'm talking more stability and dependability). I think they both make perfectly decent toys, and I also think they both make perfectly decent tools. They both loom large in my heart, as well as in my head.

2) Now, all the above standing as said, the comparatives: I like Android better. I trust iOS more. I think iOS make the better tool, and Android makes the better toy. My head is more with iOS, and my heart is more with Android. I guess you could say I "left brain" iOS more, and "right brain" Android more.

3) It doesn't matter which platform it is, when I first get a new phone, I'm in love, and am in love with whichever ecosystem it's running. It also doesn't matter which one it is, over time, the honeymoon wears off. However, where the post-honeymoon leaves me is different between the two. I tend to get frustrated with Android and I tend to get bored with iOS, while conversely, I don't tend to get too frustrated with iOS, nor very bored with Android. Again, the left brain/right brain thing.

One area where I differ with you, at least for now is that I'm not trying to pick a platform to stick with, to simplify my life as you put it, but I'm actually trying to diversify my life, and go multiplatform. I am with you that the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. But instead of trying to pick a patch of grass, I want to take out the fence. :-)

For me this is even more complicated as in addition to being an Android and iOS fan, I'm also a big fan of Windows. So for me, multi-format is tri-format, maybe quad-format if I want to make a distinction between 1st and 3rd party Android (which I almost certainly will not do).

As it stands, I STRONGLY prefer 1st party (I.e Nexus/Pixel devices) over any and all 3rd party phones and tablets, but there are a handful of 3rd party devices that don't really have a meaningful 1st party parallels that I would really want, like nVidia Shield TV/handheld, and JiDe Remix mini. What's that? It's a basically Roku-sized Android desktop out of Beijing, with Remix OS, a specialized version of Android to run like a desktop, with start menu, task bar, file explorer, and truly desktop-style resizable, movable "windows" for each.

I'm already doubled down on Apple more or less with a Mac, an iPad Air2, and this iPhone6+. This tax time I plan on doubling down on Android by getting a Nexus 6p, a Pixel C, and if there is money left over, a Nexus TV (will probably get an Apple TV too). I also have the aforementioned JiDe Remix minis on the way.

After all this, I'll probably spend the next year and probably next year's tax return turning my attention to pursuing Windows: a serious Windows 10 gaming PC, a REAL Surface, rather than the cheapie Nextbook Flexx 11 I'm currently using to "approximate" one, and [assuming Windows and Verizon are playing nice by then], the crown jewel, a Windows phone (probably a "Surface Phone" by the time that happens).

Now, to be clear, I think I'd get totally overwhelmed really quick if I tried to use all three ecosystems equally AT THE SAME TIME, so what my plan would be would be to have all three but alternate at [TBD] intervals between more or less "all-in"/exclusivism and really get to know the ecosystems that way. Other than major updates, and/or urgent app grabs, whichever ones I'm not using at the time I'd just completely ignore until it's their turn. But since I'd have all three, I wouldn't have to wait out contracts or anything. I could switch at any time with the pop of a SIM card from one device to another.

But, to your situation, I don't think there's any shame in the back and forth. They're both great platforms and great devices, and you're either gonna get both, go back and forth, or put down stakes in one and miss what made the other great. That's all there is to it. I can tell you that if I were going to bind myself to one at a time, and only Apple and Android, I know exactly how it'd go down: I'd get myself into a perpetual cycle of frustration with Android, boredom with iOS, frustration with Android, boredom with iOS and so on.

On the other hand, I think there's no shame in picking one to settle on, but as much as you like the two systems, you're going to be settling, make no mistake. And the grass will still be greener on the other side. Maybe what you could do if you're absolutely committed to just one platform at a time is use your phone upgrade cycles to dictate the timing, and when you switch phones, switch platforms - and pick up a new tablet in the given ecosystem as well and just immerse yourself.

To be sure, that doesn't resolve your original self-gripe, but it will still give you the best of both worlds, on a regimented schedule so you won't be stressing out about what to do, and panicking on day 13. If over time you organically come to favor the one or the other and decide to settle down, that's gravy. But I think you'll be unhappy if you try to force yourself into the one or the other inorganically because by necessity, you'll be forcing yourself out of the other.

Wishing you the best!

Cheers from a kindred spirit!

-J

p.s. I had a "day 13" situation as well, only mine was day 7, and was a little more measured and "long view strategy". Coming from a Note 3 on Sprint, I returned to Verizon, initially with a Nexus 6. However, multiplatformism was in view, with tax time being the time frame and I figured I'd probably be happier with a last year's model iPhone6+ and a brand new Nexus 6p than I would be with a brand new iPhone 6s+ and last year's model Nexus 6. So that's why I traded. As to the question of which I prefer between the Nexy 6 and the 6+, let's just say "left brain / right brain." ;-)
 
Re: Aggravated with iOS /Android back and forth

To get back on topic...I think part of the frustrations of choosing between the two is the fact that the two OS are like polar opposites. Where one shines, the other doesn't. I would agree, I might find it hard to choose if I was invested in both ecosystems.

There are things that work a little differently, but there are a host of similarities. Both are great smartphones. But the features I get with my Note 5 are too great to ignore.

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Re: Aggravated with iOS /Android back and forth

I was having the exact same issue. I have an iPhone 6s Plus, iPad, iMac, and Apple TV. I'm heavily invested in Apple's ecosystem, yet every year I seem to be drawn to the latest Galaxy Note. Every year I switch for a week or so then return the Note within my return window and go back to my iPhone. I can't live without iMessage. But I got tired of longing for a Note 5, so yesterday I got one. But this time I opened up a new line of service so I can just keep my iPhone too. I have been enjoying the Note 5 (Sprint) but have definitely noticed it is not as snappy as my iPhone 6s Plus in things like loading apps or webpages for example. This might have something to do with the aggressive RAM management issue I read about. That is certainly frustrating since I set it up as a new phone and haven't even downloaded many apps yet. I shouldn't be seeing this very noticeable lag on a phone with 4GB of RAM. I got an update as soon as I set up the phone and have seen others report that they are now experiencing some lag since installing the latest update on their Sprint Note 5. I hope they get this sorted out, or I may be returning this one too. I was in love with it all day yesterday. Today I'm noticing the lag.

I have not noticed any lag on my note 5(unlocked) and I use 130+ apps. One thing I did do though was disable flipboard's briefing. It's ****. Period. Also in developer options, changed the animation speed to 0.5x. Everything is super fast now.

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Prior iPhone 6 users, what do you love or miss switching to a Note 5?

My love affair with my iPhone 6 is coming to a close. Just to many glitches and the Genius bar has proven to be a waste of time. All Apple products are perfect they feel. This phone has go to go!

Loving the Note 5. Looking for input from prior iPhone 6 users who purchased a Note 5 on things they really love (like has the pen proved as useful as it looks?) or things they miss?

I think that Apple missed the mark on the 6s, so I'm looking to go to the "dark side". Hoping to get some real world user input to see if what I think is great about the Note 5 is really great, or potentially a different phone be a better fit for me.

Thanks!
 
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I never had an iPhone but welcome to android I have a note5 and love it android is so open and you can customize it to your liking

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Re: Prior iPhone 6 users, what do you love or miss switching to a Note 5?

I use the 6s plus and note 5. I like both phones. My iPhone battery is better but the note is great for Android. I may be used to iPhone apps but I think they look better and seem a little more polished. I love the s pen. I use it throughout the day for work. The camera on the note is noticeably better than the iPhone. If one learns the ins and outs of the note and everything it can truly do it is a remarkable device. It's also the fastest android phone I've ever used.

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Re: Prior iPhone 6 users, what do you love or miss switching to a Note 5?

Had the iPhone 6S for 13 days. Really liked it, but like the Note 5 more. The Note is the best all-around smartphone.

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Re: Prior iPhone 6 users, what do you love or miss switching to a Note 5?

Missed battery life, imessage, how the lock screen functions while using fingerprint, ( note 5 lock screen functionality is horrible with fingerprint security) family sharing, also loved how easy it was to share live locations with friends and family. I know Android can do the same but no one uses it on Android and... How podcasts didn't suddenly quit playing. My note seems to "fail" quite a bit while listening to pods. Tried a couple different apps and no difference. That's what I miss about my iPhone 6+.

Still feel the note 5 is the most capable device out there.
 

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