Note7 vs Pixel Xl camera

[pmendu]

All the reviews say pixel is very good, but when I got pixel today and compared low light portrait pics, note 7 is very bright and face is sooo smooth, where as pixel is dark colors

Am I missing some "enhancement" setting in pixel?

 

[pmendu]

Also pixel has sooo much noise in the low light pics..

 

[I800C0LLECT]

I'm not an aficionado of any type but shouldn't these be compared to a third camera that produces a standard?

I think point and shoot settings will always be different from the manufacturer so of course they'll differ. At that point it's just preference.

I haven't noticed a lot of noise in my shots but I keep HDR+ set to auto

 

[miyanc]

I no longer have the note 7 to compare to my pixel xl. But as with any comparison it needs to be taken as a whole. Meaning even though the pixel is listed as an excellent camera and scored higher then all others, that is a total score. The note may have been better then the pixel in low light. The only low light phone camera I felt like I could rely on was the g4. And that was because I could alter the settings. On auto it was marginal.

In terms of some light I have not had any issues with the pixel in terms of noise. I also find it the most realistic. I am not an expert, but rarely use it in lighting situation where ther isn;t enough to capture a good picture. I usually try and maneuver to get the best lighting. Much in the way I assume a professional would. Like like in or out of the shot, lighting behind me, making it perfectly still, taking many shots, like hundreds. free storage so just keep clicking.

like I said in my experience I take as many pictures as needed and try and learn the limits of each camera I have and alter the shots accordingly.

 

[wordfool]

Did you use HDR+?

 

[pmendu]

It's auto hdr+

 

[DJM626]

The updated photo app actually has some nice enhancements that you could play around with. I used it on a few photos I took outside today and I liked a few better then the original ones that I took

 

[wordfool]

It's auto hdr+

Auto HDR+ is different from "HDR+ On" though. They work in slightly different ways AFAIK so I'm curious if you've compared them (and if you have any images to share). The nighttime images I've seen from a pixel are not the cleanest, but I would not call them excessively noisy and, in fact, I prefer a bit of residual noise over aggressive noise reduction that can destroy details. You can always add more noise reduction, but you can't take it away to recover details.

 

[pmendu]

Auto HDR+ is different from "HDR+ On" though. They work in slightly different ways AFAIK so I'm curious if you've compared them (and if you have any images to share). The nighttime images I've seen from a pixel are not the cleanest, but I would not call them excessively noisy and, in fact, I prefer a bit of residual noise over aggressive noise reduction that can destroy details. You can always add more noise reduction, but you can't take it away to recover details.

I will leave it on hdr+ then.
Any good tool to enhance Potrait pics?

 

[Stoopstroop]

Zoom on the note is for sure better.

 

[Rumblee1]

All the reviews say pixel is very good, but when I got pixel today and compared low light portrait pics, note 7 is very bright and face is sooo smooth, where as pixel is dark colors

Am I missing some "enhancement" setting in pixel?

I have the pixel, not the XL, but it has the same camera. I also have a galaxy S7 EDGE. I've got to admit that a side - by - side comparison of pics taken in the same spot with the same conditions, and the settings set to auto, the S7 edge pics are much better. Mor color, very clear and realistic. So I would agree that the pics from your note 7 would be better since the camera on the note was a bit improved over the S7.

 

[xxaarraa]

I have the pixel, not the XL, but it has the same camera. I also have a galaxy S7 EDGE. I've got to admit that a side - by - side comparison of pics taken in the same spot with the same conditions, and the settings set to auto, the S7 edge pics are much better. Mor color, very clear and realistic. So I would agree that the pics from your note 7 would be better since the camera on the note was a bit improved over the S7.

I disagree. I had the S7E, S7 then Note 7 and now Pixel. Side by side, the Pixel shots have much finer detail. The S7 generation camera on the Sammy is known for its aggressive noise cancellation and hence making things very smudgy. In low light, the Sammy is a touch better, but overall, I find the Pixel cameras much much better for detail.

 

[wordfool]

And therein lies the issue.... some people prefer the Samsung-style image processing and others prefer the Pixel-style image processing.

I personally am not a huge fan of the Samsung jpeg style, which I generally think has too much noise reduction and is oversharpened. Looks great on a tiny screen -- sharp, punchy and low noise -- but zoom in or view on a monitor and I cringe at the ringing/halo artifacts and loss of detail.

 

[xxaarraa]

And therein lies the issue.... some people prefer the Samsung-style image processing and others prefer the Pixel-style image processing.

I personally am not a huge fan of the Samsung jpeg style, which I generally think has too much noise reduction and is oversharpened. Looks great on a tiny screen -- sharp, punchy and low noise -- but zoom in or view on a monitor and I cringe at the ringing/halo artifacts and loss of detail.

Agree. I had the S6E before the S7 generation and found that camera (particularly the samsung sensor) and post-processing to be better overall than the S7. With their S7 line-up, the push for fast focusing resulted in a camera setup that I never quite loved. Among other things, an f1.7 aperture is great on paper, but makes large parts of the photo out of focus (I am not talking about depth of field / bokeh, just straight up bad focus because the camera is so desperate to lock focus quickly).

Eager to see what Sammy does for the S8. I am a fan of Sammy and would have kept the Note 7 if they didn't make us give it back.

 

[rslifkin]

Among other things, an f1.7 aperture is great on paper, but makes large parts of the photo out of focus (I am not talking about depth of field / bokeh, just straight up bad focus).

The super-wide aperture is good for low-light, but it does make it tough to get things in focus. That super narrow focal plane can lead to things like a person's eyes being in focus but their nose being blurry.

 

[xxaarraa]

The super-wide aperture is good for low-light, but it does make it tough to get things in focus. That super narrow focal plane can lead to things like a person's eyes being in focus but their nose being blurry.

You are talking about depth of field. I am talking about something else i.e., even things that are meant to be in focus would often be out of focus because the camera locked on to one particular small tiny area so quickly.

In pro mode, you can set it to "multi AF" and that fixed the focusing issue that the S7 has in auto mode. But you can't set that as default, so every time I launched the camera, I had to go to Pro and change focus.

 

[wordfool]

Eager to see what Sammy does for the S8. I am a fan of Sammy and would have kept the Note 7 if they didn't make us give it back.

I'm not optimistic that anything will change in the image processing department. Samsung definitely has a "style" (too sharp, saturated, and smoothed for my preferences) and it has barely changed in recent years, although at least there's the option of shooting RAW now.

 

[pmendu]

Yah Samsung seems to do good post processing and make them vibrant but at same time a tad bit fake

We love portraits in Samsung since it mAkes you look more good

Also in Samsung edit mode it recognizes faces, so you can add brightness just on face, but pixel edit doesn't have much choice, is there a app that just detect the face area to be adjusted?

 

[akin_t]

And therein lies the issue.... some people prefer the Samsung-style image processing and others prefer the Pixel-style image processing.

I personally am not a huge fan of the Samsung jpeg style, which I generally think has too much noise reduction and is oversharpened. Looks great on a tiny screen -- sharp, punchy and low noise -- but zoom in or view on a monitor and I cringe at the ringing/halo artifacts and loss of detail.

They do it that way because 90% of all pictures taken by a smartphone are going to be viewed on a smartphone.

It's really just use cases and preferences. I prefer the Samsung processing because at that screen size those issues vanish.

 

[akin_t]

You are talking about depth of field. I am talking about something else i.e., even things that are meant to be in focus would often be out of focus because the camera locked on to one particular small tiny area so quickly.

In pro mode, you can set it to "multi AF" and that fixed the focusing issue that the S7 has in auto mode. But you can't set that as default, so every time I launched the camera, I had to go to Pro and change focus.

If you're not talking about depth of field then why bring up aperture?

Having a wide aperture is not a hindrance when it comes to focusing. Matter of fact, all cameras autofocus with the aperture wide open (this allows the camera to use more light to focus), it's only when it comes time to capture that the aperture is stopped down to the metered value.