Permissions are far from ideal. I'll probably never have an Android device.

[gnr_2]

Other than the ability to make calls and/or send texts - for most non-business people, everything else on a smartphone is non-essential.

And one doesn't need a smart phone for either of those. Therefore, by your logic, the entire phone is then non-essential.

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[Stevie Harley]

If you think that you can completely trust Google, Microsoft, and Android Central, you probably have a huge lack of common sense.

Where I said that I trust them completely? Don't be a ****, I never said that.

 

[JHBThree]

Where I said that I trust them completely? Don't be a ****, I never said that.

It was strongly implied. You attempted to (poorly) cast those that don't buy your argument as believing and trusting them completely. Which, of course, is complete nonsense.

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[Ry]

Where I said that I trust them completely? Don't be a ****, I never said that.

All you have to do is a Google news search on "Google privacy" to see that the same issues you may have with any "random" Android developer are issues that a lot of people also have with Google.

 

[Stevie Harley]

It was strongly implied. You attempted to (poorly) cast those that don't buy your argument as believing and trusting them completely. Which, of course, is complete nonsense.

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Oh yeah, that totally makes sense. I said I don't trust anyone, so it's implicit I trust Google 100%. You're an expert in interpretation.

 

[judasmachine]

Every digital communication is written somewhere. The list of who has access is pretty much anyone with a modicum of skill or cash to pay for skill. Welcome to the internet.

 

[ab304945]

what does it matter. there is no privacy on the internet. What ever you do on the internet is monitored by the government anyway.

 

[JHBThree]

Oh yeah, that totally makes sense. I said I don't trust anyone, so it's implicit I trust Google 100%. You're an expert in interpretation.

Read again. Your comprehension has failed you.

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[nattoleon]

android is open and free.
many things we can do it as what we want to .
ios and wp 's style is tell you what you should do

 

[gone down south]

Apps are tools, and they perform specific functions. In order to perform those functions they need access to parts of your phone.

A dialer needs to intercept your phone calls and have access to your contacts. A messenger app needs that, plus the ability to send texts and emails without your permission (imagine if you had to approve each text before it got sent.) Social media apps post to the internet on your behalf.

Every operating system needs these permissions, only Android specifically lists them out ahead of time.

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[Stevie Harley]

Apps are tools, and they perform specific functions. In order to perform those functions they need access to parts of your phone.

A dialer needs to intercept your phone calls and have access to your contacts. A messenger app needs that, plus the ability to send texts and emails without your permission (imagine if you had to approve each text before it got sent.) Social media apps post to the internet on your behalf.

Every operating system needs these permissions, only Android specifically lists them out ahead of time.

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I understand some apps actually needs permissions, the problem is just they're used nowadays like if they were meaningless... the users just 'accept' anything and the developers make apps that just 'requires' as much permissions as possible, imho, this should be exactly the opposite.
It's ridiculous that a simple 'torch' application (that basically display a white screen) needs access to my phone number, internet, and the hell outta it.

Also, there are complaints like mine since 2011: Issue 17675 - android - "Read Phone State and Identity" should be two separate permissions - Android - An Open Handset Alliance Project - Google Project Hosting.

Btw, do you have any idea if the 'full internet access' permission also allows the app to connect to the internet?

 

[JHBThree]

I understand some apps actually needs permissions, the problem is just they're used nowadays like if they were meaningless... the users just 'accept' anything and the developers make apps that just 'requires' as much permissions as possible, imho, this should be exactly the opposite.
It's ridiculous that a simple 'torch' application (that basically display a white screen) needs access to my phone number, internet, and the hell outta it.

Also, there are complaints like mine since 2011: Issue 17675 - android - "Read Phone State and Identity" should be two separate permissions - Android - An Open Handset Alliance Project - Google Project Hosting.

Btw, do you have any idea if the 'full internet access' permission also allows the app to connect to the internet?

Developers DO use the least permissions necessary.

That torch application needs to access the internet to display ads. It needs to know your phone state so that it will turn the light off if you get an incoming call. Again, the developers cannot see any identifying information from your phone, number or otherwise. That information is off limits.

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[gone down south]

I understand some apps actually needs permissions, the problem is just they're used nowadays like if they were meaningless... the users just 'accept' anything and the developers make apps that just 'requires' as much permissions as possible, imho, this should be exactly the opposite.
It's ridiculous that a simple 'torch' application (that basically display a white screen) needs access to my phone number, internet, and the hell outta it.

Also, there are complaints like mine since 2011: Issue 17675 - android - "Read Phone State and Identity" should be two separate permissions - Android - An Open Handset Alliance Project - Google Project Hosting.

Btw, do you have any idea if the 'full internet access' permission also allows the app to connect to the internet?

Which app are you referring to?


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[Stevie Harley]

Developers DO use the least permissions necessary.

That torch application needs to access the internet to display ads. It needs to know your phone state so that it will turn the light off if you get an incoming call. Again, the developers cannot see any identifying information from your phone, number or otherwise. That information is off limits.

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Nope, by allowing the app to read the phone state you're also allowing it to read the phone IMEI and number. If the developer uses or discards that information is up to them, you can never be sure though. And nope, the developers nowadays uses permissions indiscriminately.

 

[JHBThree]

Nope, by allowing the app to read the phone state you're also allowing it to read the phone IMEI and number. If the developer uses or discards that information is up to them, you can never be sure though. And nope, the developers nowadays uses permissions indiscriminately.

No, they don't. If they did you would see every app out there using every permission available.

For the third time, the app cannot see identifying user information unless the user explicitly allows it. Even if it could, that information is not allowed to leave the device and must be protected. No developer, at any time, would have the ability to see the information you claim.

For someone that knows so very little about how android apps work you sure like to act like you're a walking android development dictionary.

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[Stevie Harley]

No, they don't. If they did you would see every app out there using every permission available.

For the third time, the app cannot see identifying user information unless the user explicitly allows it. Even if it could, that information is not allowed to leave the device and must be protected. No developer, at any time, would have the ability to see the information you claim.

For someone that knows so very little about how android apps work you sure like to act like you're a walking android development dictionary.

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Nope, YOU knows nothing about android apps, security and life overall.

If the app has these two permissions:

1-Phone calls
Read phone state and identify

2-Network communication
Full internet access

then it can send your phone number, your phone IMEI, the remote number of calls (if the app is running when a call starts) over the internet. That's fact. Anyone who say otherwise don't know what is saying.

Please, stop being a ****.

 

[gnr_2]

Please, stop being a ****.

Yes. Play nice guys. I'm sure this can be solved with some well-phrased Google searches.



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[jusmebabe]

Pass the popcorn.

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[JHBThree]

Nope, YOU knows nothing about android apps, security and life overall.

If the app has these two permissions:

1-Phone calls
Read phone state and identify

2-Network communication
Full internet access

then it can send your phone number, your phone IMEI, the remote number of calls (if the app is running when a call starts) over the internet. That's fact. Anyone who say otherwise don't know what is saying.

Please, stop being a ****.

Do us all a favor and go read the android developer site. Until then, stop posting and embarassing yourself.


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[Kevin OQuinn]

Closed. It was all good until about two pages back.