Phone Arena unboxing and benchmarks..

[Kevin OQuinn]

what? sorry but that is irrelevant. Take a computer graphic card run it at 100fps or turn on vsync, doesn't mean anything, the graphic card is still working like it was, it is just that the frame rate is capped, it doesnt mean the gpu is working any less. it is more about how much the game stresses your card and how graphically demanding it is, whether you are seeing 60 frames or 100 is irrelevant it is still producing same amount of heat.

Think about it this way, if you got a pure graphically demanding game, and it can bearly push 30 frames, it means it is taxing your card pretty good, if you turn down the settings to increase the FPS, does the heat go up? no, you are actually giving your card more breathing room, so less fps doesn't mean less heat, it could mean your graphic card is pused to limit and cant handle the game and will produce most heat, so more fps could mean less heat in some instances because you are reducing the overhead and your grahic card has to process less data.

Well I don't want to veer off topic here. But running at higher FPS does cause more heat. That is completely incorrect if you think otherwise. I only know this by doing benchmarks, and doing testing in games. Ones like Crysis... Anytime the FPS goes up the temp goes with it, because the card is workng harder. This is why I turn on V-sync to cap off at 60fps and I don't have heat issues.

I'm not sure the computer reference works here at all. Correct me if I'm wrong, but games in Android don't have adjustable graphics levels. You just get what's built in. So to me that would mean that you are only limited by the GPU's ability to render. So in a case like Tegra 2 you could definitly generate more heat with more FPS if the game is demanding enough. This would be due to the lack of a cap on FPS. On phones with a FPS cap this wouldn't be an issue because most modern GPU's in phones can run all the games at 60FPS. Yes, I'm sure that any game will also have dips in the framerate in especially demanding areas of the game, but I'm sure you guys get what I'm saying.

 

[nkd]

I'm not sure the computer reference works here at all. Correct me if I'm wrong, but games in Android don't have adjustable graphics levels. You just get what's built in. So to me that would mean that you are only limited by the GPU's ability to render. So in a case like Tegra 2 you could definitly generate more heat with more FPS if the game is demanding enough. This would be due to the lack of a cap on FPS. On phones with a FPS cap this wouldn't be an issue because most modern GPU's in phones can run all the games at 60FPS. Yes, I'm sure that any game will also have dips in the framerate in especially demanding areas of the game, but I'm sure you guys get what I'm saying.

yea you get different scenarios under different condiditons. All I was saying is more fps doesn't mean more heat under all scenarios. Thats why I dont wanna argue about it as under certain scenarios it could, but not all the time, you know? We could be debating this all the time lol.

 

[Djblue]

Ok I finally found out more about the Evo 3D's asynchronous dual core processor. These htc reps explain that the phone uses the power of 1 core to reserve battery life, but the 2nd can be activated if you/the phone needs it.(I sense some great stuff once we get root)

Here are some videos:
Dual-core Snapdragon Processor Qualcomm Soundbytes - SocialTimes.com

In this video you can see the workload both cores are using on the screen while the game is being played.




Here is a demo of what the processor in the Evo 3D is capable of.

 

[yourfriendmat]

Lol... Love the 3rd video. It's like "Wow look at this awesome game trailer with sweet high def graphics!" *pan to phone* *drool*

 

[Jace985]

nice.. I'm so glad to see how bad ass the processor is going to be in the evo 3d. Imagine how high the benchmarks are going to be once benchmark apps utilize both cores.. Can't wait for my phone! only 6 more days

 

[KingKuba]

Higher resolution people! Everyone knows higher resolution is harder on gpu and cpu so yeah your going to get a drop in fps but cleaner graphics

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Atrix has the same resolution and blows away the HTC EVO 3d

 

[Djblue]

Atrix has the same resolution and blows away the HTC EVO 3d

The Atrix has tegra 2 which is synchronous, it utilizes both cores. The Evo 3D doesn't use the full power of both cores and it still runs great(er) than other dual cores.

 

[KingKuba]

nice.. I'm so glad to see how bad ass the processor is going to be in the evo 3d. Imagine how high the benchmarks are going to be once benchmark apps utilize both cores.. Can't wait for my phone! only 6 more days

smartbench 2011 already uses both cores.

You won't imagine anything.

Love all the excuses HTC is using, 2nd core won't be used unless it's needed....lol

I think the benchmarks NEED IT.

 

[Djblue]

smartbench 2011 already uses both cores.

You won't imagine anything.

Love all the excuses HTC is using, 2nd core won't be used unless it's needed....lol

I think the benchmarks NEED IT.

Ok first off I think you should view this post http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-3d/94766-trolling-personal-attacks.html

I doubt smartbench can support dual core asynchronous processors there last update was March 11( according to their android market page https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smartbench.eleven ), which is before the sensation even came out in Europe. How can they update an app to support something that wasn't even released.

 

[Jace985]

Ok first off I think you should view this post http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-3d/94766-trolling-personal-attacks.html

I doubt smartbench can support dual core asynchronous processors there last update was March 11( according to their android market page https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smartbench.eleven ), which is before the sensation even came out in Europe. How can they update an app to support something that wasn't even released.

Exactly.. trolls will be trolls though.

 

[nkd]

smartbench 2011 already uses both cores.

You won't imagine anything.

Love all the excuses HTC is using, 2nd core won't be used unless it's needed....lol

I think the benchmarks NEED IT.

You need to read the sticky. Enough said.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

Ok first off I think you should view this post http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-3d/94766-trolling-personal-attacks.html

I doubt smartbench can support dual core asynchronous processors there last update was March 11( according to their android market page https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smartbench.eleven ), which is before the sensation even came out in Europe. How can they update an app to support something that wasn't even released.

Exactly.. trolls will be trolls though.

I think both of you need to read the forum rules linked in my sig as it relates to trolling.

Snapdragon isn't the only (and definitely not the first) dual-core on the market. Tegra 2 was. So if smartbench does indeed support dual core it was because of the Tegra 2. If the benchmark itself doesn't make the second core "turn-on" then it sounds like an issue with the processor or the way the OS handles the workload. We all know that Gingerbread is not optimized for dual-core, so it's possible that the dual-core Snapdragon really needs Ice Cream Sandwich to perform the way it's supposed to (yes I know that technically all dual-cores do, but maybe the asynchronous nature of the Snapdragon makes a bigger difference).

My opinion is that right now dual-core isn't necessary at all. Android runs just fine on the current crop of single core procs just fine. The reason for dual-core is twofold: 1) to have future-proof hardware 2) to play games. Right now (before the release of ICS) Tegra 2 has the advantage there because of Nvidia's marketing strategy as it relates to games. Whether or not those games will be available on other chipsets is still up in the air. So for now Tegra 2 has a slight advantage IMHO.

 

[Djblue]

I know that tegra 2 was released first,which is why I said that I doubted that asynchronous procs. worked. We all know already that the tegra 2, and samsungs dual core work no problem considering the scores, but those are both synchronous....they hit the market first so they should be optimized to work already.

Either way I don't really care. Aslong as the phone is fast I'll be happy. I know there's only 6 days left but idk if my hero will make it. This thing is killing me and I'm super anxious to get my hands on my evo 3d and my hero stopped receiving texts

I agree completely that dual cores hit us to fast and quad cores too for that matter. The newer generation single cores look like they should be all that we need right new besides gaming. They look great and I'd have no problem using one.

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