Picked up the 5s today.

[Oofa]

Hilarious thread! 3 pages into it and we still have no idea why the OP thinks the iPhone 5s has such a great camera. It just goes to show that you can start a thread with a few simple words saying nothing and it will fly for a while.

O.P., what is it about the iPhone 5s camera that makes it better than the Moto X camera?

 

[GadgetGator]

But you don't come on here and call people names. Just because he said something that may or may not be true, and you don't agree with his opinion, is not a reason to call him a moron. Chill out!

BTW, he is correct about the webpage.

Correct about the webpage? In width too? Cause the Moto X looks wider to me in the photo posted ealier in this thread.

 

[jephanie]

You realize, with the button bar on the Moto X, the usable screen space is pretty much identical...right?

When it matters, such as when I'm playing games, watching YouTube videos or on-device videos, the buttons disappear. And as a result, I have a MUCH larger amount of screen than the iPhone.

 

[Dreamliner330]

When it matters, such as when I'm playing games, watching YouTube videos or on-device videos, the buttons disappear. And as a result, I have a MUCH larger amount of screen than the iPhone.

A lot of games I played turned the buttons into dots, they didn't go away. YouTube does go to full screen though, which is nice.

 

[slave]

Hilarious thread! 3 pages into it and we still have no idea why the OP thinks the iPhone 5s has such a great camera. It just goes to show that you can start a thread with a few simple words saying nothing and it will fly for a while.

O.P., what is it about the iPhone 5s camera that makes it better than the Moto X camera?

Because it is, hands down. The Moto X camera is flat out BAD. I do not own a single crApple product, never have, never will. That said, only a blind fanboi would call the Moto X camera good. It's less than decent, and mostly vomit worthy.

This point has not been lost on a single review, and is ahot topic in Google+. Even Moto knows the camera blows.

 

[tdizzel]

Because it is, hands down. The Moto X camera is flat out BAD. I do not own a single crApple product, never have, never will. That said, only a blind fanboi would call the Moto X camera good. It's less than decent, and mostly vomit worthy.

This point has not been lost on a single review, and is ahot topic in Google+. Even Moto knows the camera blows.

Which makes this thread even more pointless.

 

[ericizzy1]

A lot of games I played turned the buttons into dots, they didn't go away. YouTube does go to full screen though, which is nice.

wow, you just cant admit of being wrong, can you?

 

[Dreamliner330]

wow, you just cant admit of being wrong, can you?

Which part in what you quoted was incorrect? I've already stated the size is slightly larger than I recalled.

 

[ericizzy1]

20% is not "slightly larger" , you have seen the comparison photo posted, anyways, good luck to you with whatever phone you really have. out.

 

[Dreamliner330]

20% is not "slightly larger" , you have seen the comparison photo posted, anyways, good luck to you with whatever phone you really have. out.

Avoidance. Quickest way to proclaim ignorance. Just to be clear, are you stating that the usable screen space on the Moto X is 20% greater than the iPhone? Do you have a reference for that figure?

I calculate about 5% larger diagonal (10% total area) with the Moto X, comparing usable screen space, of course.

 

[Google_Superuser]

How do people flip flop between android and apple so much. I mean you get kind of invested in an ecosystem unless you never buy apps or content.

 

[ultravisitor]

comparing usable screen space

What the hell is "usable screen space"? Every bit of the screen space on the Moto X is "usable" in some way, including the navigation and notification bars. They both have specific, dedicated uses. Furthermore, those bars aren't always present, so if you're counting those in your measurements, then that's not an accurate assessment of the screen space.

 

[Dreamliner330]

What the hell is "usable screen space"? Every bit of the screen space on the Moto X is "usable" in some way, including the navigation and notification bars. They both have specific, dedicated uses. Furthermore, those bars aren't always present, so if you're counting those in your measurements, then that's not an accurate assessment of the screen space.

Dedicated screen space for buttons is not usable. I understand they go away for some games and videos, but the rest of the time...there they are. Using valuable screen space for buttons is one of the worst design decisions Google has made (its absolutely horrendous on a Nexus 7 in landscape mode). I much preferred the capacitive touch buttons.

 

[ultravisitor]

Dedicated screen space for buttons is not usable.

Except that the screen space is used...for buttons. People use that part of the screen when they press the buttons. You do understand what the word "usable" means, right? Saying that part of the screen is "not usable" suggests that it's completely dead--no buttons, no display, nothing at all.

 

[Aquila]

If I were going to put some math down to compare the screen areas... I'd say that the Moto X has a screen area of 9.44" and the 5s has an area of 6.84", thus the Moto X is 38% larger in terms of area.
It's almost exactly 17.5% taller and 17.5% wider, given that they're both 16:9 devices.

Moto X screen 4.1"*2.3"=9.44"
iPhone 5s screen 3.49"&1.96"=6.84"
9.44"-6.84"=2.6"
2.6"/6.84"=38%

 

[Dreamliner330]

^the usable space (space for user content) is not .6" taller on the Moto X. If you do your math right, you'll come up with around 10% area.

You can't count button space because its not usable...they are just dumb buttons, you can't put icons there, or web page content, or emails, etc.

 

[return_0]

Avoidance. Quickest way to proclaim ignorance. Just to be clear, are you stating that the usable screen space on the Moto X is 20% greater than the iPhone? Do you have a reference for that figure?

I calculate about 5% larger diagonal (10% total area) with the Moto X, comparing usable screen space, of course.

I calculated the screen space of the Moto X when the buttons are subtracted, based on the number of pixels taken up by the buttons (just to double-check, I also physically measured it with a ruler). It would have a 4.57" screen. That's 32.8% more total area than the iPhone.

 

[return_0]

you can't put icons there, or web page content, or emails, etc.

Of course you can. Do you know of ParanoidAndroid?

 

[Dreamliner330]

I calculated the screen space of the Moto X when the buttons are subtracted, based on the number of pixels taken up by the buttons (just to double-check, I also physically measured it with a ruler). It would have a 4.57" screen. That's 32.8% more total area.

No way is the area above the buttons 4.57" diagonal. Its closer to 4.2"

 

[return_0]

No way is the area above the buttons 4.57" diagonal. Its closer to 4.2"

Too bad I carefully calculated and physically measured it. You can't deny hard facts.