Pixels Can See Charge Cycles now

[mustang7757]

You guys bring up some interesting points, definitely like more clarification on this from the manufacturer s

 

[mustang7757]

I'll see what @Mooncatt says he's ready up on batteries

 

[Ben_70]

There's no need to guess here about what a charge cycle is. If you go back to the article linked in the very first post in this thread it's pretty clear:

"In the new help article, Google explains the methodology as such: “Your Pixel battery’s cycle count is the number of times the battery has completed a full discharge and recharge of the battery, including partial discharges.”

For example, if you used your Pixel from 100% charge to 50% charge and then recharged it to 100%, this would be calculated as 0.5 cycles."

 

[mustang7757]

There's no need to guess here about what a charge cycle is. If you go back to the article linked in the very first post in this thread it's pretty clear:

"In the new help article, Google explains the methodology as such: “Your Pixel battery’s cycle count is the number of times the battery has completed a full discharge and recharge of the battery, including partial discharges.”

For example, if you used your Pixel from 100% charge to 50% charge and then recharged it to 100%, this would be calculated as 0.5 cycles."

Yeah it talks about charge and discharge between 50 to 100%
It doesn't mention battery limited to 80%
Since I'm not charging to 100 from any point why is it calculating when I'm using 80% limit ? It shouldn't calculate it as a charge cycle since I'm not going to 100%

If I use the 80% I'm charging more often then using 100% wouldn't that degrade battery faster as your charging more ?

 

[mustang7757]

That's where clarification is needed

 

[SeeBeeEss]

Yeah it talks about charge and discharge between 50 to 100%
It doesn't mention battery limited to 80%
Since I'm not charging to 100 from any point why is it calculating when I'm using 80% limit ? It shouldn't calculate it as a charge cycle since I'm not going to 100%

If I use the 80% I'm charging more often then using 100% wouldn't that degrade battery faster as your charging more ?

As I understand it, an 80% charge is 8/10ths (.8) of a full cycle. So 10 charges to 80% would give you 8 full battery cycles instead of 10.

There is no doubt that battery cycle count information could be made clearer to end users.

 

[mustang7757]

As I understand it, an 80% charge is 8/10ths (.8) of a full cycle. So 10 charges to 80% would give you 8 full battery cycles instead of 10.

There is no doubt that battery cycle counts could be made clearer.

That makes sense, every time I charge my pixel to 80 percent it calculating it as a cycle just like if I had it at 100 so something off

 

[spARTacus]

...and "basic" battery protection option (once battery reaches 100%, then stop charging until level drops to 95%, then charge again to 100%, then repeat...) when sleeping seems really crappy, since each time that happens another 5/100ths of a cycle is consumed, all while the user is sleeping and not even using the device. The only benefit to the user would seem to be high assurance of a high battery level state, at time of wake.

 

[SeeBeeEss]

What I have been trying to figure out is, is there any real world advantage to using the Limit to 80% setting instead of the Adaptive Charging setting. Both apparently limit voltage, heat and potential battery stress in the 80% to 100% battery charge range, the Limit to 80% setting by never going there in the first place and the Adaptive Charging setting by slowing down the charge in the final 20% of a full charge.

As @mustang7757 has alluded to, it would be interesting to know if the more frequent charging when using the Limit to 80% setting actually ends up stressing the battery more than less frequent charging using Adaptive Charging.

 

[SeeBeeEss]

What I have been trying to figure out is, is there any real world advantage to using the Limit to 80% setting instead of the Adaptive Charging setting. Both apparently limit voltage, heat and potential battery stress in the 80% to 100% battery charge range, the Limit to 80% setting by never going there in the first place and the Adaptive Charging setting by slowing down the charge in the final 20% of a full charge.

As @mustang7757 has alluded to, it would be interesting to know if the more frequent charging when using the Limit to 80% setting actually ends up stressing the battery more than less frequent charging using Adaptive Charging.

Maybe it really doesn't matter in the larger scheme of things, but inquiring minds need to know.

 

[Ben_70]

That makes sense, every time I charge my pixel to 80 percent it calculating it as a cycle just like if I had it at 100 so something off

Yeah, if every day you're charging up say, 50 or 60% of you battery (only) yet it's adding +1 to your cycle count then I agree, something doesn't seem right.

 

[mustang7757]

Yeah, if every day you're charging up say, 50 or 60% of you battery (only) yet it's adding +1 to your cycle count then I agree, something doesn't seem right.

I'm doing 80 currently

 

[spARTacus]

...Both apparently limit voltage, heat and potential battery stress in the 80% to 100% battery charge range... and the Adaptive Charging setting by slowing down the charge in the final 20% of a full charge...

Does it really do that? From what I had understood, when on the charger all night long Adaptive Charging simply stops the charging at 80%, and then in the last predicted hour or so before you wake (based on learning your wake patterns over a couple of weeks), it restarts the charging almost in basic mode, in order to aim to complete the last 20% fill-up and reach 100% just in time for when you wake.

 

[Stanley Kubrick]

OK... so are we all thoroughly confused yet? I would bet dimes-to-dollars the people who created these features also HAVE NO CLUE how the counter truly works! LOL