Poland. Seriously?

[Murph5150]

I'm happy for the relatively small European country receiving L, but a quote directly from CNET:

"Why Poland?

An LG representative told CNET that "various factors" play a role "in a smartphone upgrade rollout, including ...market size, carrier relationships and our own local resources. Poland had all the key elements in place for LG to initiate the upgrade in that market first."

Market size? Poland has 38.53 million citizens. The UK has a population of 64.1 million. America has a population of 316.1 million. So...... Tell me more about market size??? Poland is the tenth largest country in Europe.

Income? $1,320 USD or €975.96 per month. I make more per week.

Unemployment? 10.6%.

Ok. This isn't a "bash Poland" rant. I hope they enjoy the new OS. But what are these "various factors LG speaks of?" I'm not an economist, but one would think the US or UK would fit the criteria better than Poland. US and UK earn far more individually than Poland individuals. The population difference is huge. So don't you, as a company, want to satisfy your wealthy markets first?

I'm good with numbers and can usually make sense of this stuff, but my engineering and physics background is of no help. Maybe it isn't numbers at all.

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[milliman]

I don't mind it being Poland. Let them work out the bugs and tweak the UI there. I am running Lollipop on my Nexus 7 and there are a few apps that don't like ART and ES File Manager does not recognize root. I hope that LG gets feedback to adopt a purer Material experience.

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[Murph5150]

I don't mind it being Poland. Let them work out the bugs and tweak the UI there. I am running Lollipop on my Nexus 7 and there are a few apps that don't like ART and ES File Manager does not recognize root. I hope that LG gets feedback to adopt a purer Material experience.

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I too, would rather receive Android L without bugs. Google and carrier work in tandem to produce a working OS. I'm with Verizon, and they're wealthier than any other American carrier. I would assume that software engineers would also be more abundant. I'm just trying to be the "big shot" where the decision was mine and I see no redeeming qualities Poland offers.

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[pseudoware]

If getting L ASAP is that important to you, you picked some real winners in Verizon, LG & the USA, lol.

http://bgr.com/2014/08/20/android-l-update-schedule/

Maybe get a Nexus? Or move to Poland?

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[Capt19]

You'll get it just hold on a little while. Maybe some cheese......

 

[aapold]

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[jimijames]

No one will ever be able to release an Android update in the U.S. first due to the carriers. My guess is that LG picked Poland as more of a beta test than anything else. Why risk upsetting millions of customers in the larger markets when you can work out the bugs in a relatively smaller market first?

 

[xocomaox]

An LG representative told CNET that "various factors" play a role "in a smartphone upgrade rollout, including ...market size, carrier relationships and our own local resources. Poland had all the key elements in place for LG to initiate the upgrade in that market first."

All you need to know is right there in your post. What don't you understand? UK and US is way too large for something like this.

 

[xocomaox]

If getting L ASAP is that important to you, you picked some real winners in Verizon, LG & the USA, lol.

Android L update schedule – what the KitKat rollout taught us | BGR

Kind of a useless article, given that this Android lollipop update is being touted completely different than KitKat and will have drastically different timetables because of so much demand.

 

[Jerry Hildenbrand]

• Less wireless subscribers = less phones with issues should there be bugs in the OS
• Make less money = more people apt to keep their smartphone for a longer time

Poland makes perfect sense. LG wants to update a sizable number of phones, but not so many that an uncaught bug causes a major Internet uproar — they know how the Internet is.

 

[Murph5150]

Geography check. re: Poland being a "relatively small European country". It is about the same size as New Mexico. While it is smaller than Russia, Sweden, France, Germany, Spain, Norway and
Finland... It certainly is grouped with the larger European countries (apart from Russia) in size. It is larger than the United Kingdom or Italy.

When you say "small European country" you evoke tiny states like Luxembourg, Lietchenstein, Andorra, San Marino, Malta, Monaco or The Vatican.... Maybe even the next tier up like Switzerland or Belgium or the Baltics....

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I'm sorry. Did you miss the part where I said Poland is the tenth largest European country? Should I have listed every European country, in descending order, largest to smallest, net income figures, population size, etc etc?

Geographic area isn't a factor. When I say size, I'm referring to relevant attributes. I strongly believe LG and Google don't care that the population/land is less dense in Poland.

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[Ry]

Did it actually get pushed out last week?

 

[Murph5150]

• Less wireless subscribers = less phones with issues should there be bugs in the OS
• Make less money = more people apt to keep their smartphone for a longer time

Poland makes perfect sense. LG wants to update a sizable number of phones, but not so many that an uncaught bug causes a major Internet uproar — they know how the Internet is.

Riddle me this. If LG, Google, and the wireless carrier released a countrywide update instead of a sample size of the population, I think there is confidence in the update. In my world, my largest revenue draw gets first dibbs.

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[Ry]

Riddle me this. If LG, Google, and the wireless carrier released a countrywide update instead of a sample size of the population, I think there is confidence in the update. In my world, my largest revenue draw gets first dibbs.

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Some app developers will release their app (or an update to their app) in a smaller country first. I've seen this with Canada.

They can test all they can internally, but a slow rollout is usually better. Things can happen and better for it to happen to a smaller market than a large one.

Plus, how deep are the carriers involved in Poland? In the US, you're going through AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon to get an update approved.

 

[aapold]

I'm sorry. Did you miss the part where I said Poland is the tenth largest European country?
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Yes as you surmised I did not. I pretty much only caught the subject and the first sentence. Apologies.

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[BBSeattle]

I'm sure there is a very good answer for this.......unfortunately we can only speculate what that it is.

 

[xocomaox]

Plus, how deep are the carriers involved in Poland? In the US, you're going through AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon to get an update approved.

Also, how is LG's presence in Poland? This is something the LG Director specified in their reasoning to pick Poland.

 

[zhris]

I see rollouts in small(er) countries like this as sort of a closed beta; it's large enough that they can get a decent sample size, but still small enough to be able to do damage control if something catastrophic happens.

 

[meyerweb#CB]

Market size means small, not large. If the release has a ton of bugs you don't want millions of customers finding them. That's the same reason Google rolls out updates slowly.

Local resource means LG has a very large software development shop in Poland (as does Samsung), so if there are bugs the people are available immediately to work on fixing them. Poland has a highly educated population, which means talented developers, but labor is still inexpensive.

Carrier relationships probably means the carriers in Poland are less of a PITA to deal with than in many other countries.

 

[belodion]

...Nothing to do with the choice of Poland for L, but the Poles had the earliest success in breaking Enigma, long before Bletchley Park, so there's a historical link to the devices we now hold in our hands. (Excuse me for mentioning that here OP, no wish to steer off-topic, but your thread reminded me of it.)

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