Agreed. The only app that looked weird is my speedtest app that works flawlessly but only takes up a phone portrait size and the rest is black. Does that bother me? No as the app works perfectly.
Probably Switching To Ipad2
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Agreed. The only app that looked weird is my speedtest app that works flawlessly but only takes up a phone portrait size and the rest is black. Does that bother me? No as the app works perfectly.
My counter to that would be that we feel good about the number of apps available and are confident we will get those that we don't have soon.
We get stuff that will never be on the iPad... Stuff that is important to us like flash, widgets and live wallpapers. To each is own.
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I enjoy all those things on my droid x but my tablet is purely for entertainment and right now the iPad can't be beat.
And it meets your needs. Just trying to give some insight on why Joe six pack buys android.
After using my Asus TF for over a month, I was over at a friends house and used an Ipad for the night, mostly web browsing. And honestly, it felt like the iPad was the downgrade and couldn't wait to get back to my Asus.
Plus I wouldn't let the whole "There aren't enough apps for Android" argument cloud your judgment. Are you really going to need all those apps? Most everything you need for common (and not so common) tasks already exists in the market.
Plus I wouldn't let the whole "There aren't enough apps for Android" argument cloud your judgment. Are you really going to need all those apps? Most everything you need for common (and not so common) tasks already exists in the market.
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I would add that an Android tablet is a far better productivity device as well.
They all have full featured email clients with native Exchange push, and if you don't like the native app then Touchdown is out there which offers featues iPads can only dream about.
As to Office needs, most of the Android tabs are coming with Polaris Office 3.0, which is VERY powerful and offers superior fidelity to the Office file formats than Apple's Pages or Keynote. In addition, there is Documents to Go for Android tablets which again is very powerful.
Also helping the productivity situation is the fact that Android allows full file system access. Thus it is easy to have files organized in proper folders and in fact nevigation like that is also easy.
They all have full featured email clients with native Exchange push, and if you don't like the native app then Touchdown is out there which offers featues iPads can only dream about.
As to Office needs, most of the Android tabs are coming with Polaris Office 3.0, which is VERY powerful and offers superior fidelity to the Office file formats than Apple's Pages or Keynote. In addition, there is Documents to Go for Android tablets which again is very powerful.
Also helping the productivity situation is the fact that Android allows full file system access. Thus it is easy to have files organized in proper folders and in fact nevigation like that is also easy.
Hey guys i got an Asus Eee Pad Transformer 16gb a few days ago, and i absolutely love it except for 2 things, theres is absolutely no app selection on the Market, a huge disapointment, and the browser can be slow after the Tablet has been on for awhile, a restart will fix it for a little bit, my question is , should i "downgrade" to the iPad 2 for the sole purpose of having the app selection that it offers, apps are a huge part of what i look for in a Tablet, please reply, thanks guys!
Have you tried using:
Opera Mobile Browser (not mini)
Dolphin HD Browser
Firefox Mobile
They're all good options, although I haven't tried them on a tablet but I believe Dolphin HD should work well.
Re: Probably Switching To Ipad2-Editorial Alert
I love my Asus Transformer, but as much as I love my Trans, I sometimes lose patience with the "coming of age" process that is still Honeycomb. My head tells me that Apple is a walled garden, but in my heart, I can't help feeling sometimes that the walled garden sure looks pretty!
What is most frustrating to me is that Google, with all its resources, still seems to make some basic "no brainer" type mistakes when it comes to software development and delivery. Like for instance, Honeycomb 3.0 - which, on a good day, was a half-baked piece of software that was just not ready for prime time. Whatever advantage Google and Motorola thought they were capturing by rushing the Motorola Xoom with that software to the marketplace dissipated into a muddle of ill will because Honeycomb didn't work right and the Xoom had features that didn't work at all.
That shroud of ill will still affects the perception of Android tablets today even though Honeycomb 3.1 and 3.2 addressed a number of issues from 3.0. So to this day, even with some tech pundits and reviewers who ought to know better, Android is roundly criticized for what goes wrong, or is less than optimal, but doesn't get enough credit , in my opinion, for those things it does right or better than iOS.
One of the things Android got right, even before the release of Honeycomb 3.2, is app scaling. Most Android apps scale correctly for tablets running Honeycomb - so this whole argument about the number of apps "optimized" is a bit of a red herring since the majority of Android apps didn't need to be "optimized" for tablets in the first place. iOS apps must be created specifically for tablets or they won't scale correctly and they will look weird on the iPad. This should be an Apple shortcoming, but instead the perception is that Google has the problem. Unfortunately, the Google market bought into this red herring by creating a "featured tablet apps" section with those 130+ apps that were created specifically for tablets. So in the forums there are more than a few postings like those of the OP who say there aren't nearly enough "tablet" apps. Thousands of apps work on Honeycomb tablets without specifically being called "tablet" apps. Really, though, how many apps does any one person need? It's not like I am going to put 100,000 or even 1,000 apps on my tablet. Maybe 50 or 75, if I try really hard.
As an update, 3.2 didn't bring a whole lot to the table, but it really improved scaling, which was already pretty good. I have a couple of solitaire game apps that I really like that only took up a portion of my Transformer screen before 3.2, making them useless as far as I was concerned. After updating to 3.2, these apps look great and now I really enjoy using them on my tablet.
To me, Honeycomb makes my tablet a joy and a pain to use. It is certainly not the seamless, polished experience that iOS seems to provide for the iPad. I really appreciate, however, that Android and Honeycomb exist because we end users desparately need (some semblance of) competition and Honeycomb and Android offer up the best chance to maintain some level of competition with iOS and Apple. As much as I like my Honeycomb tablet and the contributions Google has made to the tablet form factor, however, I also can't ignore the shortcomings . There is still too much lag when it comes to browsers, displays sometimes suffer from artifacting, there are too many hang ups when surfing the web, and too many force closings of apps and processes. I root for the success of Android because it has so much potential as an operating system and because I just naturally root for the underdog. Android has many great features, but its advantages will continue to get short shrift from tech jounalists and end users until Google places more emphasis on creating a complete and enjoyable user experience. That means tying up the loose ends and placing a pretty bow on the package , not unlike what Apple gets credit for doing. I hope I see some evidence of that polish with Ice Cream Sandwich.
I love my Asus Transformer, but as much as I love my Trans, I sometimes lose patience with the "coming of age" process that is still Honeycomb. My head tells me that Apple is a walled garden, but in my heart, I can't help feeling sometimes that the walled garden sure looks pretty!
What is most frustrating to me is that Google, with all its resources, still seems to make some basic "no brainer" type mistakes when it comes to software development and delivery. Like for instance, Honeycomb 3.0 - which, on a good day, was a half-baked piece of software that was just not ready for prime time. Whatever advantage Google and Motorola thought they were capturing by rushing the Motorola Xoom with that software to the marketplace dissipated into a muddle of ill will because Honeycomb didn't work right and the Xoom had features that didn't work at all.
That shroud of ill will still affects the perception of Android tablets today even though Honeycomb 3.1 and 3.2 addressed a number of issues from 3.0. So to this day, even with some tech pundits and reviewers who ought to know better, Android is roundly criticized for what goes wrong, or is less than optimal, but doesn't get enough credit , in my opinion, for those things it does right or better than iOS.
One of the things Android got right, even before the release of Honeycomb 3.2, is app scaling. Most Android apps scale correctly for tablets running Honeycomb - so this whole argument about the number of apps "optimized" is a bit of a red herring since the majority of Android apps didn't need to be "optimized" for tablets in the first place. iOS apps must be created specifically for tablets or they won't scale correctly and they will look weird on the iPad. This should be an Apple shortcoming, but instead the perception is that Google has the problem. Unfortunately, the Google market bought into this red herring by creating a "featured tablet apps" section with those 130+ apps that were created specifically for tablets. So in the forums there are more than a few postings like those of the OP who say there aren't nearly enough "tablet" apps. Thousands of apps work on Honeycomb tablets without specifically being called "tablet" apps. Really, though, how many apps does any one person need? It's not like I am going to put 100,000 or even 1,000 apps on my tablet. Maybe 50 or 75, if I try really hard.
As an update, 3.2 didn't bring a whole lot to the table, but it really improved scaling, which was already pretty good. I have a couple of solitaire game apps that I really like that only took up a portion of my Transformer screen before 3.2, making them useless as far as I was concerned. After updating to 3.2, these apps look great and now I really enjoy using them on my tablet.
To me, Honeycomb makes my tablet a joy and a pain to use. It is certainly not the seamless, polished experience that iOS seems to provide for the iPad. I really appreciate, however, that Android and Honeycomb exist because we end users desparately need (some semblance of) competition and Honeycomb and Android offer up the best chance to maintain some level of competition with iOS and Apple. As much as I like my Honeycomb tablet and the contributions Google has made to the tablet form factor, however, I also can't ignore the shortcomings . There is still too much lag when it comes to browsers, displays sometimes suffer from artifacting, there are too many hang ups when surfing the web, and too many force closings of apps and processes. I root for the success of Android because it has so much potential as an operating system and because I just naturally root for the underdog. Android has many great features, but its advantages will continue to get short shrift from tech jounalists and end users until Google places more emphasis on creating a complete and enjoyable user experience. That means tying up the loose ends and placing a pretty bow on the package , not unlike what Apple gets credit for doing. I hope I see some evidence of that polish with Ice Cream Sandwich.
Re: Probably Switching To Ipad2-Editorial Alert
Good post @kareden. I agree with pretty much everything you said. And you are right on about the "tablet" apps. A properly coded application in Android will scale to any size screen.
I don't understand is why every new tablet is compared to the iPad. The BMW is one of the nicest pieces of machinery you can drive. Yet when new cars come out no one compares them to the BMW (for the most part). Why does every new tablet need to be the iPad killer?
I have an iPad, the Transformer and I just picked up the HP TouchPad. The TouchPad gets trashed in every review because of the comparison to the iPad, yet the OS is solid and nothing compares to it's multi-tasking. Sure there aren't many tablet apps for it right now, but the iPad was the same way when it was new.
Windows Phone 7 got trashed in reviews when it first came out. It didn't have copy/paste, but received it in an update a few months later. The iPhone (released June '07) didn't have copy/paste until iOS 3! It took it almost 2 years for it to get copy/paste (March '09).
So I'm tired of all the "should I keep it". "convince me to keep it", "taking it back", "getting the iPad2" etc. posts. It's not my job to tell you what technology to get. It it were, I'd say get what you like. If you need to be convinced to get or keep something, you probably made a poor decision in the first place.
Good post @kareden. I agree with pretty much everything you said. And you are right on about the "tablet" apps. A properly coded application in Android will scale to any size screen.
I don't understand is why every new tablet is compared to the iPad. The BMW is one of the nicest pieces of machinery you can drive. Yet when new cars come out no one compares them to the BMW (for the most part). Why does every new tablet need to be the iPad killer?
I have an iPad, the Transformer and I just picked up the HP TouchPad. The TouchPad gets trashed in every review because of the comparison to the iPad, yet the OS is solid and nothing compares to it's multi-tasking. Sure there aren't many tablet apps for it right now, but the iPad was the same way when it was new.
Windows Phone 7 got trashed in reviews when it first came out. It didn't have copy/paste, but received it in an update a few months later. The iPhone (released June '07) didn't have copy/paste until iOS 3! It took it almost 2 years for it to get copy/paste (March '09).
So I'm tired of all the "should I keep it". "convince me to keep it", "taking it back", "getting the iPad2" etc. posts. It's not my job to tell you what technology to get. It it were, I'd say get what you like. If you need to be convinced to get or keep something, you probably made a poor decision in the first place.
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Re: Probably Switching To Ipad2-Editorial Alert
Quoted for truth.
Seriously, make up your own mind what is important to you. Oh, by the way, you should be buying the Charmin Extra Soft kind... Take that Cottenelle stuff back right now.
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Quoted for truth.
Seriously, make up your own mind what is important to you. Oh, by the way, you should be buying the Charmin Extra Soft kind... Take that Cottenelle stuff back right now.
-Suntan
The only reason I'm even remotely thinking about switching, is for Netflix. I really hope it comes to the Transformer without rooting. That's a big one that might make me switch if it doesn't.
I really don't get the heartburn from this so-called "issue". Root the TF, enable Netflix, then unroot. Takes all of 5 minutes. Un-do if/when updates are pushed out.
I run my TF rooted (but stock everything else), for now, only cause I like playing with different boot animations, and it is easier to do rooted. The only thing I can think of loosing by being rooted is Google Movies, which I have zero interest in because I have Netflix.
Maybe it's just me.........
You might want to look into Splashtop. You can connect to a Windows box in a remote desktop type session and it streams audio and video to your tablet. HBO and netflix directly from your pc.
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I just wanted to chime in. I agree that there are a lot more apps for iPad than android tabs. Isn't that true for iPhone vs android phone too? Although not at that scale?
To each his own, but I picked Transformer over iPad not just because of apps. There are a lot of other deciding factors and it all depends what is a dealbreaker for you individually.
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To each his own, but I picked Transformer over iPad not just because of apps. There are a lot of other deciding factors and it all depends what is a dealbreaker for you individually.
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Re: Probably Switching To Ipad2-Editorial Alert
Your analogy is wrong. A better analogy would be to say: BMW makes a superior driving machine. You want and can afford a BMW. Chevy and Hyundai try to convince you they have similar machines with 4 tires, 6 cylinder engines, leather seats, that can drive up to 150 mph and that you can get the same experience buying one of their cars instead. After driving off the Hyundai lot in your new Sonata, you realize very quickly it is no BMW 5 series.
So far my biggest gripe is I can't easily filter out all the garbage in the App Market. If app discovery worked better maybe people would come around.
I'm glad people are happy but in my opinion, there's a lot of ground to cover to be on par with the iPad but also every reason to be optimistic the gap gets closed quickly.
Your analogy is wrong. A better analogy would be to say: BMW makes a superior driving machine. You want and can afford a BMW. Chevy and Hyundai try to convince you they have similar machines with 4 tires, 6 cylinder engines, leather seats, that can drive up to 150 mph and that you can get the same experience buying one of their cars instead. After driving off the Hyundai lot in your new Sonata, you realize very quickly it is no BMW 5 series.
So far my biggest gripe is I can't easily filter out all the garbage in the App Market. If app discovery worked better maybe people would come around.
I'm glad people are happy but in my opinion, there's a lot of ground to cover to be on par with the iPad but also every reason to be optimistic the gap gets closed quickly.
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